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Old 02-10-2003, 04:12 PM
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Hey all!

Just going to give my lawn the once over before winter sets in. Since I
really don't know much I thought I'd ask here...

Most of my lawn is a decent hieght, but there are a few patches that are
really too tall (6"+). I'm going to mow it down but was wondering if I
should shorten the whole lawn. I always mulch the grass.

I'm going to put down a winter fertilizer. Should I break up the thatch in
the lawn first, or is this important to protect the roots over the winter?

Thanks!


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Old 02-10-2003, 11:42 PM
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"Phrederik" wrote:
Hey all!

Just going to give my lawn the once over before winter sets in. Since I
really don't know much I thought I'd ask here...

Most of my lawn is a decent hieght, but there are a few patches that are
really too tall (6"+). I'm going to mow it down but was wondering if I
should shorten the whole lawn. I always mulch the grass.

I'm going to put down a winter fertilizer. Should I break up the thatch
in the lawn first, or is this important to protect the roots over the
winter?

Thanks!

Just cut it, and doooon't let it get that tall next time.
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Old 03-10-2003, 12:22 PM
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"Phrederik" wrote in message
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Hey all!

Just going to give my lawn the once over before winter sets in. Since I
really don't know much I thought I'd ask here...

Most of my lawn is a decent hieght, but there are a few patches that are
really too tall (6"+). I'm going to mow it down but was wondering if I
should shorten the whole lawn. I always mulch the grass.

I'm going to put down a winter fertilizer. Should I break up the thatch in
the lawn first, or is this important to protect the roots over the winter?

Thanks!



The thatch doesn't protect the roots over the winter and spring and/or fall
is the time to go after it if you have a thatch problem.

There are different schools of thought on whether to keep the lawn long or
short over the winter. Personally I feel that it does better if you cut if
quite short for the last cut as I find that it comes out of the winter in
better shape.

Here, in southern Ontario, it seems that winter is coming quickly this year
and, depending on where you live, you may be right in between fertilizer
times. I've always tried to get the fall fert down before this so that it
doesn't stimulate the grass to grow too late into the season. There are
others, the turf institute at the University of Guelph for one, who suggest
that a great time to do the fall fert is when the ground is frozen, just
before the snow flies. They claim that the fert will just sit there until
the spring and then the lawn will take off. I can vouch for that method as
those who have done it have the earliest and greenest lawns on the street.

Peter H


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"Phrederik" wrote in message news:vcXeb.5343$6C4.5089@pd7tw1no...
Hey all!

Just going to give my lawn the once over before winter sets in. Since I
really don't know much I thought I'd ask here...

Most of my lawn is a decent hieght, but there are a few patches that are
really too tall (6"+). I'm going to mow it down but was wondering if I
should shorten the whole lawn. I always mulch the grass.

I'm going to put down a winter fertilizer. Should I break up the thatch in
the lawn first, or is this important to protect the roots over the winter?

Thanks!



If it's 6 inchs, I sure wouldn't shorten it in one cut. Don't know
what area you're in, but for most of the US, grass still needs to be
cut at least several more times.

You can cut it a little shorter for the final cut, assuming it's still
going to grow some. Personally, I cut mine the last time usually in
Dec just to the normal height. By then it's stopped growing, so the
last cut looks uniform for the winter.

You can dethatch anytime if it really needs it, but most lawns don't,
unless it really is a thick mat like covering. I'd probably wait to
do that till spring, so the grass can aggessively fill in.
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Old 03-10-2003, 06:02 PM
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Default Breakup thatch now? Cut grass short?

Just going to give my lawn the once over before winter sets in. Since I
really don't know much I thought I'd ask here...

Most of my lawn is a decent hieght, but there are a few patches that are
really too tall (6"+). I'm going to mow it down but was wondering if I
should shorten the whole lawn. I always mulch the grass.

I'm going to put down a winter fertilizer. Should I break up the thatch

in
the lawn first, or is this important to protect the roots over the

winter?

The thatch doesn't protect the roots over the winter and spring and/or

fall
is the time to go after it if you have a thatch problem.


Not really a problem, but I figured it would be wise to break it up
occasionally. Especially before applying any fertilizer.

There are different schools of thought on whether to keep the lawn long or
short over the winter. Personally I feel that it does better if you cut if
quite short for the last cut as I find that it comes out of the winter in
better shape.


I'm pretty sure that short is better... Just wanted some more opinions. 90%
of the lawn is fine. The rest is fairly tall as it's located in shady and
protected areas.

I'm located in Calgary, Alberta (Zone 3A). The weather here can be very odd.
We had about 4" of snow for two days last week. Now it's 23'C outside. Last
year were were running around in shorts at Christmas but February saw -30'C
some days. It's very hard on the plants (and gardeners!)

The snow got me thinking that I better do something with the lawn soon.

Here, in southern Ontario, it seems that winter is coming quickly this

year
and, depending on where you live, you may be right in between fertilizer
times. I've always tried to get the fall fert down before this so that it
doesn't stimulate the grass to grow too late into the season. There are
others, the turf institute at the University of Guelph for one, who

suggest
that a great time to do the fall fert is when the ground is frozen, just
before the snow flies. They claim that the fert will just sit there until
the spring and then the lawn will take off. I can vouch for that method as
those who have done it have the earliest and greenest lawns on the street.


I'll be out in the yard today and see where I can go with it... How much to
cut the long stuff down and really how bad the thatch may be.

Thanks all!




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Old 04-10-2003, 02:36 AM
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"Phrederik" wrote:
Not really a problem, but I figured it would be wise to break it up

occasionally. Especially before applying any fertilizer.

Hold the phone, ****stick. When you were posting with your other alias,
you told him he doesn't need fertilizer.

Go blow a goat.

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