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Joe 22-04-2004 04:12 PM

Ants in the Lawn
 
I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.

In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.

I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
areas of Ant mounds.

I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
results with this.

But, what can I use outside????

I suspect the ant traps would just wash away with the spring rains.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Joe


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Kaushal Mehta 22-04-2004 08:11 PM

Ants in the Lawn
 
I know I am going off topic but how did you guard them from comming
inside the house?. Thanks.

Doug G 23-04-2004 01:05 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 
Joe wrote:

I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.

In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.

I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
areas of Ant mounds.

I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
results with this.

But, what can I use outside????

I suspect the ant traps would just wash away with the spring rains.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Joe


Diazinon granules sprinkled around the mound.


RoyDMercer 23-04-2004 08:03 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 
"Joe" wrote in message
...
I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.

In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.

I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
areas of Ant mounds.

I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
results with this.

But, what can I use outside????

I suspect the ant traps would just wash away with the spring rains.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Joe


They make ant bait stations designed for outside use.

http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/ants.htm




Joe 23-04-2004 02:06 PM

Ants in the Lawn
 
(Kaushal Mehta) wrote:

I know I am going off topic but how did you guard them from comming
inside the house?. Thanks.


I don't do anything. The mounds are probably 60-75 feet from the
house.


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Joe 23-04-2004 02:06 PM

Ants in the Lawn
 
Doug G wrote:

Joe wrote:

I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.

In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.

I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
areas of Ant mounds.

I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
results with this.

But, what can I use outside????

I suspect the ant traps would just wash away with the spring rains.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Joe


Diazinon granules sprinkled around the mound.



Thanks.


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Joe 23-04-2004 02:06 PM

Ants in the Lawn
 
"RoyDMercer" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
.. .
I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.

In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.

I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
areas of Ant mounds.

I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
results with this.

But, what can I use outside????

I suspect the ant traps would just wash away with the spring rains.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Joe


They make ant bait stations designed for outside use.

http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/ants.htm


Thanks, I will look into it.


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Peter H 24-04-2004 03:03 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 

"Doug G" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:

I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.

In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.

I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
areas of Ant mounds.

I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
results with this.

But, what can I use outside????

I suspect the ant traps would just wash away with the spring rains.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Joe


Diazinon granules sprinkled around the mound.



Be sure to water them in and look out for birds coming to feed. The diazinon
will kill them.

Peter H



Steveo 24-04-2004 03:03 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 
"Peter H" wrote:
"Doug G" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:

I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.

In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.

I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other
large areas of Ant mounds.

I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
results with this.

But, what can I use outside????

I suspect the ant traps would just wash away with the spring rains.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Joe


Diazinon granules sprinkled around the mound.


Be sure to water them in and look out for birds coming to feed. The
diazinon will kill them.

Peter H

That's mostly from the birds eating the grubs that have
eaten the diazinon. That's why it was outlawed from
the golf courses, and before long retail too.

Organophosphates are going to be a thing of the past
soon for insect control. Damn shame too, over-use
is the main reason, they put organo's in any control
product they could for a while.

dave 25-04-2004 05:05 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 

Organophosphates are going to be a thing of the past
soon for insect control. Damn shame too, over-use
is the main reason, they put organo's in any control
product they could for a while.

It's more of a shame than people know. All that is left is the
pyrethrins. Wham bam thank you mamm we're outa here. In theory it
sounds great for the environment. When people have to get a new lawn
every few years and repair termite damage every 5 or 6 years maybe the
pendulem will swing the other way.

RoyDMercer 25-04-2004 04:10 PM

Ants in the Lawn
 
"dave" wrote in message
...

Organophosphates are going to be a thing of the past
soon for insect control. Damn shame too, over-use
is the main reason, they put organo's in any control
product they could for a while.

It's more of a shame than people know. All that is left is the
pyrethrins. Wham bam thank you mamm we're outa here. In theory it
sounds great for the environment. When people have to get a new lawn
every few years and repair termite damage every 5 or 6 years maybe the
pendulem will swing the other way.


I doubt it will change. Things like that never seem to. I'm still stuck
with a 1.6 gal toilet that can't even flush a 6yr old's turd.



Lar 28-04-2004 04:07 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:25:59 -0500, Joe
wrote:

:)I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.
:)
:)In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
:)an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.
:)
:)I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
:)areas of Ant mounds.
:)
:)I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
:)results with this.
:)
:)But, what can I use outside????
:)
Most of the granulated ant baits will work ok for you, though they may
be slow working. If you go the way of diazinon, or any insecticide
granule, you will get almost immediate results by instead of
sprinkling the granules about the mound, put 1/2 cup of the granules
in an old gallon container, fill with water, mix, then saturate the
mounds.



Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

Lar 28-04-2004 04:07 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 
On 24 Apr 2004 01:39:11 GMT, Steveo
wrote:


:)That's mostly from the birds eating the grubs that have
:)eaten the diazinon. That's why it was outlawed from
:)the golf courses, and before long retail too.
:)
:)Organophosphates are going to be a thing of the past
:)soon for insect control. Damn shame too, over-use
:)is the main reason, they put organo's in any control
:)product they could for a while.

what the problem was that certain water fowl, that actually graze on
the grass are susceptible to it...for them phasing it out, the way of
the industry...something is found to be "friendlier" to the
environment and the older stuff gets phased out. The organo's were
more enviro friendly than the group they replaced, the chlorinates.


Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

Lar 28-04-2004 06:11 AM

Ants in the Lawn
 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:07:54 -0400, dave wrote:

:)
:) Organophosphates are going to be a thing of the past
:) soon for insect control. Damn shame too, over-use
:) is the main reason, they put organo's in any control
:) product they could for a while.
:) It's more of a shame than people know. All that is left is the
:) pyrethrins. Wham bam thank you mamm we're outa here. In theory it
:) sounds great for the environment. When people have to get a new lawn
:) every few years and repair termite damage every 5 or 6 years maybe the
:) pendulem will swing the other way.

Go with the pyrethroids, or even the newer products that are out...the
better grub control is an all season control and as far as termite the
best product is 100% after 9 years of US forestry testing...only
product since chlordane to go over 7 years, yet is 166 times less
toxic than Frontline, what the vet puts on the pets for flea control.




Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!


Steveo 28-04-2004 12:05 PM

Ants in the Lawn
 
Lar wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:25:59 -0500, Joe
wrote:

:)I live in northern Illinois and have an ant problem in my yard.
:)
:)In the past, I've had one ant colony (city, urban area?) that covers
:)an area of about 2-3 square feet with dozens of individual holes.
:)
:)I have pretty much ignored this. But this year, I have two other large
:)areas of Ant mounds.
:)
:)I use ant traps when I run across them in the house. I have excellent
:)results with this.
:)
:)But, what can I use outside????
:)
Most of the granulated ant baits will work ok for you, though they may
be slow working. If you go the way of diazinon, or any insecticide
granule, you will get almost immediate results by instead of
sprinkling the granules about the mound, put 1/2 cup of the granules
in an old gallon container, fill with water, mix, then saturate the
mounds.

He'd be better off using a liquid insecticide(EC) if that's his approach.


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