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Pepper problems
With all my past problems, I could always count on trouble-free
peppers. However this year, something has gotten into my 19 pepper plants (of 6 varieties). Starts on the lowest leaves. If you turn over the leaves, they seem to have wet, darker spots... almost as if you put drops of boiling water on them and cooked those parts. These spots enlarge and turn yellow or transparent and die. Soon the leaf falls off and ones further up the stem get infected. Sevin doesn't help. Of my 19 peppers, I pick up and throw away up to 60 fallen leaves every day. Plants are now very tall, with long naked stems, very few flowers, and all are just struggling to survive. Anyone know what is causing this? Thanks. Kira |
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Kira Dirlik !! wrote: However this year, something has gotten into my 19 pepper plants (of 6 varieties). Starts on the lowest leaves. It sounds more like a blight or a fungus then insects, so an insecticide like Sevin isn't going to help. Maybe stem blight? http://chatham.ces.ncsu.edu/growings...ghtpepper.html -- Steve |
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However this year, something has gotten into my 19 pepper plants (of 6 varieties). Starts on the lowest leaves. It sounds more like a blight or a fungus then insects, so an insecticide like Sevin isn't going to help. Maybe stem blight? http://chatham.ces.ncsu.edu/growings...ghtpepper.html Steve Thanks, but no, that isn't it. The stems look perfectly healthy, and no weird stuff at the bases. And the really unique symtom is what looks like "cooked" spots. These are especially apparent on the underneath of the leaves... darker green, wet, "cooked" spots as though boiling water had been splashed onto them. Gets the bottommost leaves first and works up. I think it is the same as what got my sunflowers in years past. Confession: about 4 days ago I sprayed them all with Home and Garden Raid! Since no flowers, much less any peppers, had formed yet, I figured I wouldn't poison myself. I set it up for each in line thus: spray can, pepper plant, cafeteria tray as barrier, other plants behind. I made sure none got on plants that were totally edible like dill, basil, kale, etc. AND I just saw now that new leaves have come out the top looking good, and even some new sprouts at the joints where former leaves had fallen off. Last year I put some of my sunflower leaves that had this in between some wax paper and pressed them. Weeks later I noticed little trails coming from the leaves of something trying to escape, but invisible to the eye. I wonder if I brought this into my garden on a purchased jalapeno (others all were grown from seed). That plant just never "was right". Kira |
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bringing plants in, was Pepper problems
Kira,
Dang, girl, where have you been????? I have missed you here at triangle.gardens!!!! You might indeed have brought the problem into your garden with the "purchased" jalapeno -- but I just wanted to add my own little cautionary tale here..... For those of you who have had problems with swallowtail butterflies decimating your parsley plants: if you repot the parsley and put it on a porch, say, before you bring it into the kitchen for the winter -- Check to make sure there are no voles in the pots when you bring the plants in!!!!! Been there, done that -- and NO, I have no excuse for not noticing the "hole" in the nice soft potting soil!!! Anne "Kira Dirlik" !! wrote in message ... However this year, something has gotten into my 19 pepper plants (of 6 varieties). Starts on the lowest leaves. It sounds more like a blight or a fungus then insects, so an insecticide like Sevin isn't going to help. Maybe stem blight? http://chatham.ces.ncsu.edu/growings...ghtpepper.html Steve Thanks, but no, that isn't it. The stems look perfectly healthy, and no weird stuff at the bases. And the really unique symtom is what looks like "cooked" spots. These are especially apparent on the underneath of the leaves... darker green, wet, "cooked" spots as though boiling water had been splashed onto them. Gets the bottommost leaves first and works up. I think it is the same as what got my sunflowers in years past. Confession: about 4 days ago I sprayed them all with Home and Garden Raid! Since no flowers, much less any peppers, had formed yet, I figured I wouldn't poison myself. I set it up for each in line thus: spray can, pepper plant, cafeteria tray as barrier, other plants behind. I made sure none got on plants that were totally edible like dill, basil, kale, etc. AND I just saw now that new leaves have come out the top looking good, and even some new sprouts at the joints where former leaves had fallen off. Last year I put some of my sunflower leaves that had this in between some wax paper and pressed them. Weeks later I noticed little trails coming from the leaves of something trying to escape, but invisible to the eye. I wonder if I brought this into my garden on a purchased jalapeno (others all were grown from seed). That plant just never "was right". Kira |
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bringing plants in, was Pepper problems
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:42:55 GMT, "Anne Lurie"
wrote: Kira, Dang, girl, where have you been????? I have missed you here at triangle.gardens!!!! Yes, I live still ! Glad to see some familiar names still in the NG. I have to admit, computerwise, I have wasted many, many hours on the LOST newsgroup. (Any other LOST addicts out there? TV... ABC.... Wed nights). My local Ag. agent came out last summer and told me, considering I am in deep woods, with minimal sun, and no air circulation, I am doing a fantastic job with my gardening attempts. But my ONE continual success story: Peppers!!! That is a real heartbreaker for that to end. Peppers look weak again today. Raid not doing the trick. New energy apparently came from the fertilizer I put on them last week, but the baddie is winning. Sigh. Kira |
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bringing plants in, was Pepper problems
Kira Dirlik wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:42:55 GMT, "Anne Lurie" wrote: Kira, Dang, girl, where have you been????? I have missed you here at triangle.gardens!!!! Yes, I live still ! Glad to see some familiar names still in the NG. I have to admit, computerwise, I have wasted many, many hours on the LOST newsgroup. (Any other LOST addicts out there? TV... ABC.... Wed nights). My local Ag. agent came out last summer and told me, considering I am in deep woods, with minimal sun, and no air circulation, I am doing a fantastic job with my gardening attempts. But my ONE continual success story: Peppers!!! That is a real heartbreaker for that to end. Peppers look weak again today. Raid not doing the trick. New energy apparently came from the fertilizer I put on them last week, but the baddie is winning. Sigh. Kira You might not want to use Raid on the plants. It getes absorbed into the plant and then makes the peppers high in pesticide levels. (And the other plants around them from run off) Get some DE and cover the stems and under the leaves with them. It will kill anything on them. Avoid getting it on the flowers or the leaves near the flowers. Or you could try a little dish soap and water. That one works really well. Jo |
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Peppers, and soil
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:15:31 GMT, Jo wrote:
You might not want to use Raid on the plants. It getes absorbed into the plant and then makes the peppers high in pesticide levels. (And the other plants around them from run off) Get some DE and cover the stems and under the leaves with them. It will kill anything on them. Avoid getting it on the flowers or the leaves near the flowers. Or you could try a little dish soap and water. That one works really well. Jo I know Raid is bad. But I just wanted to try it that once to test if it is actual critters, or some kind of blight that would be unaffected by pesticides. Is DE that diatomatus (sp) earth? This year is probably a bust. Does anyone know if there is a way to have a 100% fresh start next year? I can't move to an entirely new area, because my current garden is the only place that gets max sun (and that only for a few hours.... very tall trees surround). Would covering it all winter with black plastic kill all the baddies underneath? Thanks. Kira |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:05:58 GMT in Kira Dirlik !! wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:15:31 GMT, Jo wrote: You might not want to use Raid on the plants. It getes absorbed into the plant and then makes the peppers high in pesticide levels. (And the other plants around them from run off) Get some DE and cover the stems and under the leaves with them. It will kill anything on them. Avoid getting it on the flowers or the leaves near the flowers. Or you could try a little dish soap and water. That one works really well. Jo I know Raid is bad. But I just wanted to try it that once to test if it is actual critters, or some kind of blight that would be unaffected by pesticides. Is DE that diatomatus (sp) earth? This year is probably a bust. Does anyone know if there is a way to have a 100% fresh start next year? I can't move to an entirely new area, because my current garden is the only place that gets max sun (and that only for a few hours.... very tall trees surround). Would covering it all winter with black plastic kill all the baddies underneath? Thanks. Grow in containers. Need containers, try the cary dump. Kira -- Chris Dukes "The key to effective management is properly timed hovering." |
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Kira Dirlik wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:15:31 GMT, Jo wrote: You might not want to use Raid on the plants. It getes absorbed into the plant and then makes the peppers high in pesticide levels. (And the other plants around them from run off) Get some DE and cover the stems and under the leaves with them. It will kill anything on them. Avoid getting it on the flowers or the leaves near the flowers. Or you could try a little dish soap and water. That one works really well. Jo I know Raid is bad. But I just wanted to try it that once to test if it is actual critters, or some kind of blight that would be unaffected by pesticides. Is DE that diatomatus (sp) earth? This year is probably a bust. Does anyone know if there is a way to have a 100% fresh start next year? I can't move to an entirely new area, because my current garden is the only place that gets max sun (and that only for a few hours.... very tall trees surround). Would covering it all winter with black plastic kill all the baddies underneath? Thanks. Kira Thats yes on the DE, I know what a pain to spell. LOL Another poster said containers, you can get some really nice ones at Broadwells. I got very large containers there last week. Go he http://www.biconet.com/ Look up your critters and see what they recommend for natural control of them. I stopped tilling and have gone to sustainable gardening and have noticed that has helped quite a bit. You can plant other plants that will help guard your harvest. I know there are plant guides out there somewhere that tell you which plants help others. I will try to find it in my bookmarks later. The little one calls for dinner. Jo |
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Peppers, and soil
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:56:35 GMT, Jo wrote:
Look up your critters and see what they recommend for natural control of them. I stopped tilling and have gone to sustainable gardening and have noticed that has helped quite a bit. You can plant other plants that will help guard your harvest. I know there are plant guides out there somewhere that tell you which plants help others. I will try to find it in my bookmarks later. The little one calls for dinner. Jo Big problem with the "critters" is trying to identify them, or it, whatever it is. I can't possibly calculate the workhours spent making solid clay into gorgeous soil over the last 11 years... I compost everything possible into it. I grind up the fall leaves with the lawnmower and have plentiful mulch for it every year. In spring I plant the plants with compost, topsoil, and permatil (to fight off the voles). It has always worked all these years. It would be really hard for me to suddenly do the suburban deck thing with containers and abandon that loose, black soil to the elements. I just wish I could kill whatever the problem is, and start fresh. Cheers, Kira |
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On 2006-07-22, Kira Dirlik !! wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:56:35 GMT, Jo wrote: Look up your critters and see what they recommend for natural control of them. I stopped tilling and have gone to sustainable gardening and have noticed that has helped quite a bit. You can plant other plants that will help guard your harvest. I know there are plant guides out there somewhere that tell you which plants help others. I will try to find it in my bookmarks later. The little one calls for dinner. Jo Big problem with the "critters" is trying to identify them, or it, whatever it is. I can't possibly calculate the workhours spent making solid clay into gorgeous soil over the last 11 years... I compost everything possible into it. I grind up the fall leaves with the lawnmower and have plentiful mulch for it every year. In spring I plant the plants with compost, topsoil, and permatil (to fight off the voles). It has always worked all these years. It would be really hard for me to suddenly do the suburban deck thing with containers and abandon that loose, black soil to the elements. I just wish I could kill whatever the problem is, and start fresh. Cheers, Kira Could it be that you tree canopy has increased and you are not getting as much sunlight? You may have to prune or cut back a few trees. Planting the same plants in the same place does make plant problems worse. YOu may have introduced some disease last year that is manifesting it self this year. Or maybe it is just a bad year for peppers. -- Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please. is a garbage address. |
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Peppers, and soil
Kira,
I'm not sure if this was covered before in this thread, but have you been rotating the area where you grow peppers, tomatoes, eggplants? I think I had read about "sterlilizing" soil by covering it with clear plastic for a period, but that might only deal with weed seeds, not critters and/or plant diseases in the soil. If you have the room, you might try leaving part of the garden unplanted for a season or two, to see if that helps. Anne Big problem with the "critters" is trying to identify them, or it, whatever it is. I can't possibly calculate the workhours spent making solid clay into gorgeous soil over the last 11 years... I compost everything possible into it. I grind up the fall leaves with the lawnmower and have plentiful mulch for it every year. In spring I plant the plants with compost, topsoil, and permatil (to fight off the voles). It has always worked all these years. It would be really hard for me to suddenly do the suburban deck thing with containers and abandon that loose, black soil to the elements. I just wish I could kill whatever the problem is, and start fresh. Cheers, Kira |
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Peppers, and soil
I did cut down a holly tree that was getting huge and shady (and even
sending roots into the garden). I have hundreds of hollys, but it was still painful. The canopy of the hundred foot trees is making more and more shade each year, because they are closing in around the space created by my house being built. I have cut trees before. No way I can remedy these huge old oaks, poplars, sweet gums way, way up there, but in reality, they are not casting much more shade than they did last year. My garden is only about 15 x 30, but I do rotate, and have the rows go in different directions each year, so all the soil is used differently each year. I have the peppers growing in several areas of the garden, and I could see this malady spread slowly across them all, from one side of the garden to the opposite. I bought one jalalpeno and 2 hot banana plants, and I have a feelling I brought it in on one of those. I've grown peppers from seed all these years, with the fun of never knowing quite how they will mix and match with each other and what kind of peppers will appear. It is a disaster to me to lose all that. I have ALWAYS had a huge bumper crop and mammoth plants. I now have ONE lonely jalapeno pepper on a very dwarfed, warped plant, and 4 banana peppers that were already starting when I bought them. All my lovely other 16 pepper plants have not produced a single pepper. I'd have bushels by now, in years past. Leaves continue to fall off (and flower stems), as tips try and try and try to grow. Kira |
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