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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
We've been growing Paulownia for over 20 years!
We have plenty of stock and plenty of fertile seeds! http://paulownia.iscool.net |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
John McGaw wrote:
wrote: We've been growing Paulownia for over 20 years! We have plenty of stock and plenty of fertile seeds! http://paulownia.iscool.net Why do you keep trying to sell weed seeds? I'm sure everyone already has all the weeds they need. Not to be siding with a spammer but it's apparently traditional for some applications in Japan. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
On 5 Feb, 17:47, John McGaw wrote:
http://paulownia.iscool.net Why do you keep trying to sell weed seeds? I'm sure everyone already has all the weeds they need. Well I'd love to grow Paulownia, but when I looked at the weather conditions for my plot (in _Wales_ of all places) it just didn't have the water to support the things. 8-( |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:09:34 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote: Not to be siding with a spammer but it's apparently traditional for some applications in Japan. Not AFAIK, but it's the closest Western substitute for the traditional timber. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to grow Paulownia. |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
Andy Dingley wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:09:34 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: Not to be siding with a spammer but it's apparently traditional for some applications in Japan. Not AFAIK, but it's the closest Western substitute for the traditional timber. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to grow Paulownia. Paulownia isn't "western". It's native to Asia including Japan. Here's a research paper from Japan on the subject: http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/...4_361/_article Unfortunately, everything but the abstract is in Japanese. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
On Feb 5, 12:47*pm, John McGaw wrote:
wrote: We've been growing Paulownia for over 20 years! We have plenty of stock and plenty of fertile seeds! http://paulownia.iscool.net Why do you keep trying to sell weed seeds? I'm sure everyone already has all the weeds they need. Oh, I don't know.... maybe a little research might change your mind. It sounds like a nice material for casework, very much like poplar. |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
Andy Dingley wrote:
On 5 Feb, 17:47, John McGaw wrote: http://paulownia.iscool.net Why do you keep trying to sell weed seeds? I'm sure everyone already has all the weeds they need. Well I'd love to grow Paulownia, but when I looked at the weather conditions for my plot (in _Wales_ of all places) it just didn't have the water to support the things. 8-( If you were to plant one, something I strongly advise against, you might be surprised. These weeds were introduced to some areas to control erosion in abandoned strip mines and have escaped into the wild. Around here, especially up toward the Kentucky border I can find them growing with great abandon out of solid rock faces in highway cuts and in mounds of shale overburden where the only water is poison to everything else. These are undemanding plants. If dandelion were a tree it would be paulownia. I'd bet that you couldn't find a toxic wasteland surrounding an abandoned lead mine in Wales where paulownia wouldn't survive -- John McGaw [Knoxville, TN, USA] http://johnmcgaw.com |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
Robatoy wrote:
On Feb 5, 12:47 pm, John McGaw wrote: wrote: We've been growing Paulownia for over 20 years! We have plenty of stock and plenty of fertile seeds! http://paulownia.iscool.net Why do you keep trying to sell weed seeds? I'm sure everyone already has all the weeds they need. Oh, I don't know.... maybe a little research might change your mind. It sounds like a nice material for casework, very much like poplar. Have you ever actually worked with US-grown paulownia? I have. It is far closer to balsa than it is to poplar -- soft and porous and light. The paulownia that is favored in Japan for tansu is much different, not in species but in growing conditions. They harvest slow-growing wood from the mountains. But even in Japan paulownia was favored in some specialized niches, not for general furniture building. For example it was used for interior compartments in sea chests because the wood would swell if it got wet and effectively seal the lid protecting the contents of that compartment. Tansu was far more likely to be made of pine, cryptomeria, cypress, or chestnut. And paulownia, if present at all, would be for interior dividers and such. From what I've read, US-farmed paulownia is considered inferior in Japan and seems to wind up as a filler in plywood when it is used at all. All in all, around here it is a nasty weed which spreads almost uncontrollably and I see no reason to change that opinion. -- John McGaw [Knoxville, TN, USA] http://johnmcgaw.com |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
On Feb 6, 1:13*pm, John McGaw wrote:
Robatoy wrote: On Feb 5, 12:47 pm, John McGaw wrote: wrote: We've been growing Paulownia for over 20 years! We have plenty of stock and plenty of fertile seeds! http://paulownia.iscool.net Why do you keep trying to sell weed seeds? I'm sure everyone already has all the weeds they need. Oh, I don't know.... maybe a little research might change your mind. It sounds like a nice material for casework, very much like poplar. Have you ever actually worked with US-grown paulownia? I have. It is far closer to balsa than it is to poplar -- soft and porous and light. The paulownia that is favored in Japan for tansu is much different, not in species but in growing conditions. They harvest slow-growing wood from the mountains. But even in Japan paulownia was favored in some specialized niches, not for general furniture building. For example it was used for interior compartments in sea chests because the wood would swell if it got wet and effectively seal the lid protecting the contents of that compartment. Tansu was far more likely to be made of pine, cryptomeria, cypress, or chestnut. And paulownia, if present at all, would be for interior dividers and such. From what I've read, US-farmed paulownia is considered inferior in Japan and seems to wind up as a filler in plywood *when it is used at all. All in all, around here it is a nasty weed which spreads almost uncontrollably and I see no reason to change that opinion. -- John McGaw [Knoxville, TN, USA]http://johnmcgaw.com There you go, a little research changed my mind too. We have 'weed' trees here like Chinese Elm and Manitoba Maple. They are a nuisance. Paulownia seems to fit that bill, at least for these parts of the planet. Thanks for the info. r |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
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, Andy Dingley wrote: On 5 Feb, 17:47, John McGaw wrote: http://paulownia.iscool.net Why do you keep trying to sell weed seeds? I'm sure everyone already has all the weeds they need. Well I'd love to grow Paulownia, but when I looked at the weather conditions for my plot (in _Wales_ of all places) it just didn't have the water to support the things. 8-( I'm surprised, they grow well in the climate where I live, which is wetter washington. They don't handle freezing weather at all well (nor heavy winds either, lost one this fall to heavy winds) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
Have you ever actually worked with US-grown paulownia? I have. It is far
closer to balsa than it is to poplar -- soft and porous and light. The paulownia that is favored in Japan for tansu is much different, not in species but in growing conditions. They harvest slow-growing wood from the mountains. But even in Japan paulownia was favored in some specialized niches, not for general furniture building. For example it was used for interior compartments in sea chests because the wood would swell if it got wet and effectively seal the lid protecting the contents of that compartment. Tansu was far more likely to be made of pine, cryptomeria, cypress, or chestnut. And paulownia, if present at all, would be for interior dividers and such. From what I've read, US-farmed paulownia is considered inferior in Japan and seems to wind up as a filler in plywood *when it is used at all. Reminds me of a conversation I had about 15 years ago with an emu farmer. He went on at length about the unique virtues of that large flightless bird. "You can use every part of the bird. The meat is delicious and very healthy, and they make this oil that is highly prized in the perfume industry, and even the feathers are used to make fishing lures and ladies hats." I asked him how much a bird was worth. "I get three thousand dollars for a breeding pair!" "But how much does a bird bring for slaughter?" "Oh, nobody's slaughtering any yet, 'cause they're too valuable. But once the grower's market is filled, they'll be worth about five hundred dollars a bird." A few years after that, I saw several articles in the newspaper about the problem emus caused when farmers simply turned them loose rather than continue to feed them. When the grower's market was saturated there was no other market. I predict the paulownia tree will be the emu of the plant kingdom. DonkeyHody "Even an old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then." |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
DonkeyHody wrote:
Have you ever actually worked with US-grown paulownia? I have. It is far closer to balsa than it is to poplar -- soft and porous and light. The paulownia that is favored in Japan for tansu is much different, not in species but in growing conditions. They harvest slow-growing wood from the mountains. But even in Japan paulownia was favored in some specialized niches, not for general furniture building. For example it was used for interior compartments in sea chests because the wood would swell if it got wet and effectively seal the lid protecting the contents of that compartment. Tansu was far more likely to be made of pine, cryptomeria, cypress, or chestnut. And paulownia, if present at all, would be for interior dividers and such. From what I've read, US-farmed paulownia is considered inferior in Japan and seems to wind up as a filler in plywood when it is used at all. Reminds me of a conversation I had about 15 years ago with an emu farmer. He went on at length about the unique virtues of that large flightless bird. "You can use every part of the bird. The meat is delicious and very healthy, and they make this oil that is highly prized in the perfume industry, and even the feathers are used to make fishing lures and ladies hats." I asked him how much a bird was worth. "I get three thousand dollars for a breeding pair!" "But how much does a bird bring for slaughter?" "Oh, nobody's slaughtering any yet, 'cause they're too valuable. But once the grower's market is filled, they'll be worth about five hundred dollars a bird." A few years after that, I saw several articles in the newspaper about the problem emus caused when farmers simply turned them loose rather than continue to feed them. When the grower's market was saturated there was no other market. I predict the paulownia tree will be the emu of the plant kingdom. If one has visions of planting paulownia and getting rich selling the timber, that appears to be most likely the case. Seems to be interesting in its own right though--I've got a spot in my yard where there used to be a dogwood that gave up the ghost after the kid who used to mow the lawn whacked the bark off it one too mamy times with the lawn mower. I'm tempted to put a Paulownia there--let's see ya kill _that_, kid. DonkeyHody "Even an old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then." -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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~2000 Paulownia seeds for $10.00
"Jangchub" wrote in message news On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 17:05:24 -0700, "Alexander SuperTramp" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message . .. On 08 Mar 2008 00:26:44 GMT, wrote: On 2008-02-05, Andy Dingley wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:09:34 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: Not to be siding with a spammer but it's apparently traditional for some applications in Japan. Not AFAIK, but it's the closest Western substitute for the traditional timber. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to grow Paulownia. Timber!?!?!?!!? It is a damn invasive weed of a tree. I have seen many but none ever qualify as timber, just as kudzu with a trunk. Paulownia is grown in many places as it indeed is a hardwood and it is used frequently for framing, flooring, etc. I have one growing in the yard. It grew to 25 feet in two years. I have the P. kawasaki which is much less invasive and is truly beautiful. Shit, I should start selling them, I have enough seeds t populate China. What is it that makes these tree so invasive? The fact that they produce s many seeds that then grow so quickly? Has anyone ever tird to bonsai one of these? Janchub: How much for 50 or so of the seeds from yours? The invasive species of this plant are so because they do grow rapidly and multiply pushing out native species. P.kawasaki is not invasive, that I can tell, nor have I found in the reading I've done on Paulownia. Certain species germinate more rapidly. If I go out there and capture the seeds you want, I won't sell them. I'll either give them to you or make a trade if you have any daylillies. I'm starting to become a daylily collector and I love them. If you don't have any, no worries. Just email me your address and I'll send you some. Thanks ! email sent with P.kawasaki in the subject line. |
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