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Old 19-02-2003, 09:34 PM
MJC
 
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I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have learned that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting them into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be alright in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ



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Old 21-02-2003, 12:40 PM
Tomatolord
 
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Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in small test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows the top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
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I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have learned

that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting them into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be alright in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ





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Old 21-02-2003, 01:17 PM
MJC
 
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Even Dixie Cup size? Thats what I started with. And is the wall o water the
thing with a 2 litre bottle Thanks for the help.
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
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Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in small

test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows the

top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
...
I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have learned

that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting them

into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of

plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be alright

in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ







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Old 21-02-2003, 01:18 PM
Tomatolord
 
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yup even dixie cup is too big - the ones I have seen are no bigger than your
finger and about the same size in length, , they also sell styrofoam
versions where you can do a whole bunch at once.

The smaller ones do a few things,
one promote root growth for a plant that will grow quicker
reduce the amount of water you use and prevents the plant from being drowned

GL
tlord

wall o waters is the name of the product - green or white in color - i guess
you could do the soda bottle thing, it might work, but WOWs are pretty cheap
and mine have lasted 7 years now..


"MJC" wrote in message
...
Even Dixie Cup size? Thats what I started with. And is the wall o water

the
thing with a 2 litre bottle Thanks for the help.
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
.. .
Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in small

test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows the

top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
...
I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have learned

that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting them

into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of

plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be alright

in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ










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Old 21-02-2003, 01:29 PM
Jared Richardson
 
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Question about the Walls O Water... I've seen them for $10 a piece...
dropping $100 for 10 plants buys a lot of tomatoes at the farmer's market!
Are they available for less?

"Tomatolord" wrote in message
...
yup even dixie cup is too big - the ones I have seen are no bigger than

your
finger and about the same size in length, , they also sell styrofoam
versions where you can do a whole bunch at once.

The smaller ones do a few things,
one promote root growth for a plant that will grow quicker
reduce the amount of water you use and prevents the plant from being

drowned

GL
tlord

wall o waters is the name of the product - green or white in color - i

guess
you could do the soda bottle thing, it might work, but WOWs are pretty

cheap
and mine have lasted 7 years now..


"MJC" wrote in message
...
Even Dixie Cup size? Thats what I started with. And is the wall o water

the
thing with a 2 litre bottle Thanks for the help.
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
.. .
Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in small

test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows

the
top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
...
I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have

learned
that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting

them
into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of

plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom

and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be

alright
in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ














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Old 21-02-2003, 01:39 PM
MJC
 
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Okay, I have some glass test tubes. Will that work? What about drainage?
You don't happen to live on Laura Duncan Road in Cary do you?
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
...
yup even dixie cup is too big - the ones I have seen are no bigger than

your
finger and about the same size in length, , they also sell styrofoam
versions where you can do a whole bunch at once.

The smaller ones do a few things,
one promote root growth for a plant that will grow quicker
reduce the amount of water you use and prevents the plant from being

drowned

GL
tlord

wall o waters is the name of the product - green or white in color - i

guess
you could do the soda bottle thing, it might work, but WOWs are pretty

cheap
and mine have lasted 7 years now..


"MJC" wrote in message
...
Even Dixie Cup size? Thats what I started with. And is the wall o water

the
thing with a 2 litre bottle Thanks for the help.
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
.. .
Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in small

test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows

the
top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
...
I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have

learned
that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting

them
into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of

plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom

and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be

alright
in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ












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Old 21-02-2003, 04:16 PM
Tomatolord
 
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they were probably 3 for 10 which is what I paid

"Jared Richardson" wrote in message
news
Question about the Walls O Water... I've seen them for $10 a piece...
dropping $100 for 10 plants buys a lot of tomatoes at the farmer's market!
Are they available for less?

"Tomatolord" wrote in message
...
yup even dixie cup is too big - the ones I have seen are no bigger than

your
finger and about the same size in length, , they also sell styrofoam
versions where you can do a whole bunch at once.

The smaller ones do a few things,
one promote root growth for a plant that will grow quicker
reduce the amount of water you use and prevents the plant from being

drowned

GL
tlord

wall o waters is the name of the product - green or white in color - i

guess
you could do the soda bottle thing, it might work, but WOWs are pretty

cheap
and mine have lasted 7 years now..


"MJC" wrote in message
...
Even Dixie Cup size? Thats what I started with. And is the wall o

water
the
thing with a 2 litre bottle Thanks for the help.
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
.. .
Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in

small
test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows

the
top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
...
I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have

learned
that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting

them
into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of
plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom

and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be

alright
in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for

me.
MJ















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Old 21-02-2003, 04:26 PM
Tomatolord
 
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Glass might work - but it will probably hold too much moisture

Dont live on laura duncan road

I also only grow heirloom tomatoes now - since the wows and the mulch
prevent any diseases...

Later
tlord

"MJC" wrote in message
...
Okay, I have some glass test tubes. Will that work? What about drainage?
You don't happen to live on Laura Duncan Road in Cary do you?
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
...
yup even dixie cup is too big - the ones I have seen are no bigger than

your
finger and about the same size in length, , they also sell styrofoam
versions where you can do a whole bunch at once.

The smaller ones do a few things,
one promote root growth for a plant that will grow quicker
reduce the amount of water you use and prevents the plant from being

drowned

GL
tlord

wall o waters is the name of the product - green or white in color - i

guess
you could do the soda bottle thing, it might work, but WOWs are pretty

cheap
and mine have lasted 7 years now..


"MJC" wrote in message
...
Even Dixie Cup size? Thats what I started with. And is the wall o

water
the
thing with a 2 litre bottle Thanks for the help.
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
.. .
Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in

small
test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows

the
top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
...
I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have

learned
that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting

them
into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of
plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom

and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be

alright
in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for

me.
MJ















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Old 22-02-2003, 01:19 AM
 
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In article , Tomatolord wrote:
yup even dixie cup is too big - the ones I have seen are no bigger than your
finger and about the same size in length, , they also sell styrofoam
versions where you can do a whole bunch at once.

The smaller ones do a few things,
one promote root growth for a plant that will grow quicker
reduce the amount of water you use and prevents the plant from being drowned

GL
tlord

wall o waters is the name of the product - green or white in color - i guess
you could do the soda bottle thing, it might work, but WOWs are pretty cheap
and mine have lasted 7 years now..


The soda bottles do not work as well. There has to be no air gap except
for the hole at the top. www.wallowater.com
"MJC" wrote in message
...
Even Dixie Cup size? Thats what I started with. And is the wall o water

the
thing with a 2 litre bottle Thanks for the help.
MJ
"Tomatolord" wrote in message
.. .
Yes but the cups are too big

Tomotoes need to be root bound, usually people will grow them in small

test
tube like planter then transplant them to larger cups. This allows the

top
of the plant to become healthy and develop a larger root system

Also do the wall o waters - and I can guarantee success

tomatolord


"MJC" wrote in message
...
I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have learned
that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting them

into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of

plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be alright

in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ










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Old 22-02-2003, 11:33 PM
Anne Lurie
 
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Hey, MJ!

When it comes to starting tomatoes from seeds, I don't have anything to
offer about the merits of various pot sizes, repotting, etc. as I've never
repotted any seedlings before putting them out in the garden (I gotta
confess here that it's just laziness on my part) -- I just use APS
starting kits & potting soil that I buy online.

However, I feel responsible for a little detail on the Wall-o-Waters (WOW),
http://www.wallowater.com since I may have been the one to bring up the
subject here in tri.gardens in the first place several years ago.

Despite the name, WOW's primary purpose is "season extending" rather than
water conservation. They are made of heavy plastic film in 2 layers that is
heat-sealed(?) in a way that produces numerous vertical tubes that you fill
with water. (Think of a kid's inflatable pool, but with tubes that are
upright & filled with water instead of air).

It can be an art to fill the WOW with water, especially if it's cold & windy
outside -- trust me on this one -- but, once filled, it can be
manipulated to allow as much exposure as you want. By that, I mean that you
can "teepee" it to make the top nearly close if you're expecting frost, or
open the tube to get maximum sunshine -- or both! ("Open by day, closed
at night" -- easier for some of us with small gardens, I admit).

Also, since there is no "ceiling," you could theoretically leave the WOW
around plants that are taller than the wow, although I never have; I usually
just lift them off, still full of water, & resettle the WOW on another
deserving plant.

As for water conservation, my garden is very, very sandy, so I often use the
WOW as a water conservation device. I water the plant inside the WOW until
I can see that that water is 4 or 5 inches deep; the WOW "confines" the
water so that it soaks down gradually to the plant's roots, rather than
spreading out into other areas of the garden.

BTW, as for WOW being green or clear; the first ones I bought (15 years ago,
maybe?) were clear. It's my understanding that the plastic was changed to
green because of problems dealing with algae build-up (remember, we're
talking about about standing water exposed to sunlight).

As for durability, WOW can probably be re-used for years -- I think I'm
still using some I brought with me from Vermont 4 years ago, and I bet
they'd last a whole lot longer if I brought them in & stored them in the
garage instead of leaving them out to weather all year round! (I got as far
as emptying them & sticking them in a 5-gallon bucket, but they're still
outside, sigh.......)

Ah, that reminds me: speaking of 5-gallon bucket -- I read that the
easiest way to fill a WOW was to put it around a 5-gallon bucket, to support
it until all the tubes are filled with water. I highly recommend this
method, as it is much easier than finding helpers to support the WOW while
it's being filled!

Anne Lurie
NE Raleigh



"MJC" wrote in message
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I am determined to grow some decent tomatoes this year. I have learned

that
the best way to start them is in small pots gradually re potting them into
bigger pots before they go into the ground. I purchased 3 sizes of plastic
cups at the grocrey store to do this. I poked holes in the bottom and
planted the seeds. Husband comes home and asks if they will be alright in
clear plastic cups ( the cheep ones).
So that is my question. Will the clear plastic bother the roots?

Thanks to everyone in advance, you guys always come through for me.
MJ






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Old 22-02-2003, 11:35 PM
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Oops, I forgot to mention in my previous response that Wall-o-Waters can be
found at nearly every WalMart, according to the manufacturer's website.

Anne Lurie
NE Raleigh





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