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Old 29-03-2004, 08:36 PM
Siouxzi
 
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Default Time to put down diazinon?

The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue
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Old 29-03-2004, 10:42 PM
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There are several other products that will do a better job than diazinon.
Diazinon is a very broad spectrum type of insecticide and you will kill many
off target insects ie beneficial mites and such. I was thinking diazinon
was on the hit list of products to be delisted anyway.

Try another product such as Merit. It will give you control later this
season when the new larvae hatch. It's very safe on the pets and doesn't
have near the smell also.

--
Baine


"Siouxzi" wrote in message
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The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue



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Old 29-03-2004, 11:33 PM
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Siouxzi wrote:

The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.


Yes - aren't the moles wonderful for eating up the beetle larvae?

[snip]

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http://www.ncliberty.net
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Old 30-03-2004, 12:17 AM
 
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In article , Siouxzi wrote:
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?


Spring just happened last week and it is 13 weeks long. No this is
early spring. I would say late spring is more like Memorial day.

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue



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Old 30-03-2004, 04:57 AM
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Siouxzi wrote:
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?


DO NOT DO IT!!!!! I'm not an eco freak, but diazanon is one of those
chemicals that I will not use, expecially in a large area like a lawn.



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Old 30-03-2004, 07:39 PM
 
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In article , C G wrote:
Siouxzi wrote:
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?


DO NOT DO IT!!!!! I'm not an eco freak, but diazanon is one of those
chemicals that I will not use, expecially in a large area like a lawn.


It is strong stuff. I bought a bag of it but transfer to the original
sprinkle can I bought many years ago. I selectively use it to keep the
wood ants under control. That stuff gives my tongue a tingling sensation
if I stay around it too long. I try to sprinkle at the end of the day
and get out of the yard.

--
Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please.

spam@www.spam.com is a garbage address.
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Old 30-03-2004, 08:23 PM
Robert
 
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You might want to wade through this:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon.htm

There is a lot of info there.

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
...
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue



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Old 30-03-2004, 08:23 PM
Robert
 
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and specifically this pdf:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon/water.pdf

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
...
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue



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Old 30-03-2004, 08:26 PM
Robert
 
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You might want to wade through this:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon.htm

There is a lot of info there.

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
...
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue



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Old 30-03-2004, 08:26 PM
Robert
 
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and specifically this pdf:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon/water.pdf

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
...
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue





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Old 01-04-2004, 09:26 PM
Siouxzi
 
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Default Time to put down diazinon?

Thanks, Robert. and Wes I am going to insist that we not use it--it
scared me even before I read this stuff. We've got little puppies
playing in the yard right now.

So now the question is... what do we do about the Japanese beetles??
The milky spore is not working--and that stuff cost a bloody fortune,
BTW. I think part of our problem is clay and lack of good drainage,
but it's just not feasible to fix that entirely.

Sue

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:19:21 GMT, "Robert"
wrote:

and specifically this pdf:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon/water.pdf

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
.. .
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue



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Old 01-04-2004, 09:26 PM
Siouxzi
 
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Default Time to put down diazinon?

Thanks, Robert. and Wes I am going to insist that we not use it--it
scared me even before I read this stuff. We've got little puppies
playing in the yard right now.

So now the question is... what do we do about the Japanese beetles??
The milky spore is not working--and that stuff cost a bloody fortune,
BTW. I think part of our problem is clay and lack of good drainage,
but it's just not feasible to fix that entirely.

Sue

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:19:21 GMT, "Robert"
wrote:

and specifically this pdf:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon/water.pdf

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
.. .
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue



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Old 01-04-2004, 09:26 PM
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I'm no authority on Japanese Beetles (or much else for that matter), we
haven't had much of a problem with them here, but there are some
eco-friendlier options listed he

http://www.planetnatural.com/japanes...e_control.html

Also here is a good site to see what the deal is with various pesticides if
you want to research the stuff they sell in Lowes, HD and other garden
places before buying:

http://pesticide.org/

For example Bayer makes some sort of grub control stuff for lawns. According
to the label the active ingredient is Imidacloprid (Merit) which you can
look up on the pesticide.org site in their publications section:

http://www.pesticide.org/imidacloprid.pdf

There you can find all the fun facts that Bayer isn't telling you on its
label.

I've heard that the bag lure traps just attract more JBs to your lot than
they catch so they're probably a bad idea.

I saw something in the Southern Living Garden book (my current favorite
gardening book) the other night about Japanese Beetle control but I think
most of it is covered in the Planet Natural stuff. I could check after work
and post it here if it is different.

It might be interesting to ask at some nurseries as to how they deal with
various pests like Japanese Beetles since they have a good deal to lose from
an infestation. I'd imagine they're blasting them with chemicals but there
might be some who take an alternative approach.

Good luck,

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Robert. and Wes I am going to insist that we not use it--it
scared me even before I read this stuff. We've got little puppies
playing in the yard right now.

So now the question is... what do we do about the Japanese beetles??
The milky spore is not working--and that stuff cost a bloody fortune,
BTW. I think part of our problem is clay and lack of good drainage,
but it's just not feasible to fix that entirely.

Sue

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:19:21 GMT, "Robert"
wrote:

and specifically this pdf:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon/water.pdf

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
.. .
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue





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Old 01-04-2004, 09:26 PM
Robert
 
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I'm no authority on Japanese Beetles (or much else for that matter), we
haven't had much of a problem with them here, but there are some
eco-friendlier options listed he

http://www.planetnatural.com/japanes...e_control.html

Also here is a good site to see what the deal is with various pesticides if
you want to research the stuff they sell in Lowes, HD and other garden
places before buying:

http://pesticide.org/

For example Bayer makes some sort of grub control stuff for lawns. According
to the label the active ingredient is Imidacloprid (Merit) which you can
look up on the pesticide.org site in their publications section:

http://www.pesticide.org/imidacloprid.pdf

There you can find all the fun facts that Bayer isn't telling you on its
label.

I've heard that the bag lure traps just attract more JBs to your lot than
they catch so they're probably a bad idea.

I saw something in the Southern Living Garden book (my current favorite
gardening book) the other night about Japanese Beetle control but I think
most of it is covered in the Planet Natural stuff. I could check after work
and post it here if it is different.

It might be interesting to ask at some nurseries as to how they deal with
various pests like Japanese Beetles since they have a good deal to lose from
an infestation. I'd imagine they're blasting them with chemicals but there
might be some who take an alternative approach.

Good luck,

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Robert. and Wes I am going to insist that we not use it--it
scared me even before I read this stuff. We've got little puppies
playing in the yard right now.

So now the question is... what do we do about the Japanese beetles??
The milky spore is not working--and that stuff cost a bloody fortune,
BTW. I think part of our problem is clay and lack of good drainage,
but it's just not feasible to fix that entirely.

Sue

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:19:21 GMT, "Robert"
wrote:

and specifically this pdf:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon/water.pdf

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
.. .
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue





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Old 01-04-2004, 09:26 PM
Baine Carruthers
 
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Sometimes it's just best to grin and bear it. The moles will get their
share. You're probably near a wooded area and will continue to have mole
problems even if you treat for grubs.

--
Baine


"Siouxzi" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Robert. and Wes I am going to insist that we not use it--it
scared me even before I read this stuff. We've got little puppies
playing in the yard right now.

So now the question is... what do we do about the Japanese beetles??
The milky spore is not working--and that stuff cost a bloody fortune,
BTW. I think part of our problem is clay and lack of good drainage,
but it's just not feasible to fix that entirely.

Sue

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:19:21 GMT, "Robert"
wrote:

and specifically this pdf:

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/op/diazinon/water.pdf

Robert

"Siouxzi" wrote in message
.. .
The japanese beetles destroyed a lot of our garden and lawn last year,
and we put down milky spore (expensive, ouch!) but it hasn't kicked in
yet, judging by the grubs that I have found whenever I turn over a log
or dig under the turf. And our lawn has become thin and full of
chickweed, not to mention moles.

Hubby is insisting on putting diazinon on the grass. The bag says
apply in 'late spring' --is it time?

I'm worried about my dogs... how long do I have to keep them off the
grass?

Thanks
Sue





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