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Old 06-04-2004, 10:36 PM
Joanna & Mark
 
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Good morning everyone!
Hope everyone got their plants through the freeze safely.

I am inquiring about who to notify about a messy neighbor.
This isn't a "I have kids that make a mess" or "I just didn't get around to cleaning up my yard for a couple of weeks", or even "This is an ongoing work in progress."
The yard is covered in garbage with two broken down cars in the driveway with torn bags of fertilizer, mulch and ohter moldy bags of god knows what all over the vehicles, broken pots all over the ground tipped over, rusted cans and garbage spewed all over the yard.
I have seen the people who live there once only on a Saturday.
I have asked other neighbors if there was a problem and perhaps we could go over and help. (Things happen so maybe they could use help cleaning) Everyone said, no that it was a young couple who was lazy and that stuff had been there for years.
Most of the people in our neighborhood are very house proud and I love them for it, but having one house like that in the neighborhood has not only detracted from it's appearance, I now see that the people that live next to them have moved out and are trying to rent the home. It frightens me to think who would rent so close to a place that is such a disaster.
Is there an agency in Raleigh / Garner that could be notified to request that this be taken care of?

Thanks again,
Jo
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Old 06-04-2004, 10:36 PM
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Joanna & Mark wrote:
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I am inquiring about who to notify about a messy neighbor.


If you haven't even made the effort to go over there and inquire about your neighbour's situation or to
offer assistance (you're right, things happen) - but instead just go on what "everyone else said", then
that's not building good fences.

How close is this house to yours?

Do you have any *shudder* covenants in your neighbourhood? Is there a neighbourhood commission or
committee?

Is there an agency in Raleigh / Garner that could be notified to request that this be taken care of?


If you are within the city limits there may be a city organisation - in the county though I don't know.

Here's something about a situation (somewhat similar) in Fayetteville.
http://www.wral.com/money/1635572/detail.html

Cheers
KJ
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In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
I would like to stop by, but part of me says, don't do it. I wouldn't want
to have to live down the road from my worst nightmare, so I would like to
try to do it as anonymously as possible.


Then why even bother to move to an area where you have neighbours in the first place?
This just makes me wonder.
Chances are there is very little you can legally do about it but a small bit of conversation can go a
long way.

Cheers
KJ
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---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu
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In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
I would like to stop by, but part of me says, don't do it. I wouldn't want
to have to live down the road from my worst nightmare, so I would like to
try to do it as anonymously as possible.


Then why even bother to move to an area where you have neighbours in the first place?
This just makes me wonder.
Chances are there is very little you can legally do about it but a small bit of conversation can go a
long way.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu
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Old 06-04-2004, 10:37 PM
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Hi KJ!
Thank you for the article.
They are a few houses down I would say about three. I am pretty sure there
are not any covenants in the neighborhood, but we are new here and I will
check around.
I think my two biggest concerns is I have seen things like that spread from
house to house and the second is that we will lose equity in our home if the
neighborhood falls apart.
I would like to stop by, but part of me says, don't do it. I wouldn't want
to have to live down the road from my worst nightmare, so I would like to
try to do it as anonymously as possible.


"Kelly Garner" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
-=-=-=-=-=-

I am inquiring about who to notify about a messy neighbor.


If you haven't even made the effort to go over there and inquire about

your neighbour's situation or to
offer assistance (you're right, things happen) - but instead just go on

what "everyone else said", then
that's not building good fences.

How close is this house to yours?

Do you have any *shudder* covenants in your neighbourhood? Is there a

neighbourhood commission or
committee?

Is there an agency in Raleigh / Garner that could be notified to request

that this be taken care of?

If you are within the city limits there may be a city organisation - in

the county though I don't know.

Here's something about a situation (somewhat similar) in Fayetteville.
http://www.wral.com/money/1635572/detail.html

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born

and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George

Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu





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Old 06-04-2004, 10:37 PM
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Hi KJ,
I am sorry if I gave the impression that I am not wanting neighbors.
I happen to love most of my neighbors and I have no problems with anyone.
I love seeing toys and garden items and all the things that make a home a
home, I even love the fact that most of the kids have drifted their items
into our yard. I love the sounds of playing and barking and all the things
that make life worth living.
... but rusted beer cans and rotted bags of garbage aren't the items you
would expect of a neighbor. I would never do that to my neighbors, so I
would hope for the same in return.
It isn't so much a legal issue, but wanting to know if there is an agency
that can go to their house and say hey this is a hazard clean it up please.
But I will take your advice and maybe do a stop by with a cake or something
to meet the people to get an idea of what the situation is. If it is as
simple as they are unable to do it, then perhaps getting together with some
able body people to help is in order.
Thanks again,
Jo




"Kelly Garner" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
I would like to stop by, but part of me says, don't do it. I wouldn't

want
to have to live down the road from my worst nightmare, so I would like to
try to do it as anonymously as possible.


Then why even bother to move to an area where you have neighbours in the

first place?
This just makes me wonder.
Chances are there is very little you can legally do about it but a small

bit of conversation can go a
long way.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born

and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George

Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu



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Old 06-04-2004, 10:37 PM
Joanna & Mark
 
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Hi KJ,
I am sorry if I gave the impression that I am not wanting neighbors.
I happen to love most of my neighbors and I have no problems with anyone.
I love seeing toys and garden items and all the things that make a home a
home, I even love the fact that most of the kids have drifted their items
into our yard. I love the sounds of playing and barking and all the things
that make life worth living.
... but rusted beer cans and rotted bags of garbage aren't the items you
would expect of a neighbor. I would never do that to my neighbors, so I
would hope for the same in return.
It isn't so much a legal issue, but wanting to know if there is an agency
that can go to their house and say hey this is a hazard clean it up please.
But I will take your advice and maybe do a stop by with a cake or something
to meet the people to get an idea of what the situation is. If it is as
simple as they are unable to do it, then perhaps getting together with some
able body people to help is in order.
Thanks again,
Jo




"Kelly Garner" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
I would like to stop by, but part of me says, don't do it. I wouldn't

want
to have to live down the road from my worst nightmare, so I would like to
try to do it as anonymously as possible.


Then why even bother to move to an area where you have neighbours in the

first place?
This just makes me wonder.
Chances are there is very little you can legally do about it but a small

bit of conversation can go a
long way.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born

and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George

Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu



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Old 06-04-2004, 10:37 PM
Kelly Garner
 
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In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
I would like to stop by, but part of me says, don't do it. I wouldn't want
to have to live down the road from my worst nightmare, so I would like to
try to do it as anonymously as possible.


Then why even bother to move to an area where you have neighbours in the first place?
This just makes me wonder.
Chances are there is very little you can legally do about it but a small bit of conversation can go a
long way.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu
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Kelly Garner
 
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In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
But I will take your advice and maybe do a stop by with a cake or something
to meet the people to get an idea of what the situation is. If it is as
simple as they are unable to do it, then perhaps getting together with some
able body people to help is in order.


Well good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu
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Old 06-04-2004, 10:37 PM
Joanna & Mark
 
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Hi KJ,
I am sorry if I gave the impression that I am not wanting neighbors.
I happen to love most of my neighbors and I have no problems with anyone.
I love seeing toys and garden items and all the things that make a home a
home, I even love the fact that most of the kids have drifted their items
into our yard. I love the sounds of playing and barking and all the things
that make life worth living.
... but rusted beer cans and rotted bags of garbage aren't the items you
would expect of a neighbor. I would never do that to my neighbors, so I
would hope for the same in return.
It isn't so much a legal issue, but wanting to know if there is an agency
that can go to their house and say hey this is a hazard clean it up please.
But I will take your advice and maybe do a stop by with a cake or something
to meet the people to get an idea of what the situation is. If it is as
simple as they are unable to do it, then perhaps getting together with some
able body people to help is in order.
Thanks again,
Jo




"Kelly Garner" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
I would like to stop by, but part of me says, don't do it. I wouldn't

want
to have to live down the road from my worst nightmare, so I would like to
try to do it as anonymously as possible.


Then why even bother to move to an area where you have neighbours in the

first place?
This just makes me wonder.
Chances are there is very little you can legally do about it but a small

bit of conversation can go a
long way.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born

and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George

Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu





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In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
But I will take your advice and maybe do a stop by with a cake or something
to meet the people to get an idea of what the situation is. If it is as
simple as they are unable to do it, then perhaps getting together with some
able body people to help is in order.


Well good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu
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Kelly Garner
 
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In article ,
Joanna & Mark wrote:
But I will take your advice and maybe do a stop by with a cake or something
to meet the people to get an idea of what the situation is. If it is as
simple as they are unable to do it, then perhaps getting together with some
able body people to help is in order.


Well good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Cheers
KJ
--
---
"We're all given a ticket to the American freak show the day we're born and
some people, they put their ticket away. Me, I watch the show." - George Carlin
http://www.ibiblio.org/kelly -=*= kelly @ unc.edu
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Old 06-04-2004, 10:37 PM
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I'm assuming you aren't in a neighborhood with a homeowners association or
covenants, because that would be the first way to go.

I've heard of people being able to get the sheriff involved (there was an
article in the N&O about such a case in Clayton), and the law enforcement
involvement seemed to be tied to proving that the mess is a health hazard.
The situation in the news article was because there was so much standing
water in the garbage around the home that there were fears of mosquito
breeding and then spreading disease. That might be your best bet. I don't
know the law, but I'll bet there isn't anything that you can do purely on an
appearance issue.

Pauline



"Joanna & Mark" wrote in message
...
Good morning everyone!
Hope everyone got their plants through the freeze safely.

I am inquiring about who to notify about a messy neighbor.
This isn't a "I have kids that make a mess" or "I just didn't get around to
cleaning up my yard for a couple of weeks", or even "This is an ongoing work
in progress."
The yard is covered in garbage with two broken down cars in the driveway
with torn bags of fertilizer, mulch and ohter moldy bags of god knows what
all over the vehicles, broken pots all over the ground tipped over, rusted
cans and garbage spewed all over the yard.
I have seen the people who live there once only on a Saturday.
I have asked other neighbors if there was a problem and perhaps we could go
over and help. (Things happen so maybe they could use help cleaning)
Everyone said, no that it was a young couple who was lazy and that stuff
had been there for years.
Most of the people in our neighborhood are very house proud and I love them
for it, but having one house like that in the neighborhood has not only
detracted from it's appearance, I now see that the people that live next to
them have moved out and are trying to rent the home. It frightens me to
think who would rent so close to a place that is such a disaster.
Is there an agency in Raleigh / Garner that could be notified to request
that this be taken care of?

Thanks again,
Jo


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I'm assuming you aren't in a neighborhood with a homeowners association or
covenants, because that would be the first way to go.

I've heard of people being able to get the sheriff involved (there was an
article in the N&O about such a case in Clayton), and the law enforcement
involvement seemed to be tied to proving that the mess is a health hazard.
The situation in the news article was because there was so much standing
water in the garbage around the home that there were fears of mosquito
breeding and then spreading disease. That might be your best bet. I don't
know the law, but I'll bet there isn't anything that you can do purely on an
appearance issue.

Pauline



"Joanna & Mark" wrote in message
...
Good morning everyone!
Hope everyone got their plants through the freeze safely.

I am inquiring about who to notify about a messy neighbor.
This isn't a "I have kids that make a mess" or "I just didn't get around to
cleaning up my yard for a couple of weeks", or even "This is an ongoing work
in progress."
The yard is covered in garbage with two broken down cars in the driveway
with torn bags of fertilizer, mulch and ohter moldy bags of god knows what
all over the vehicles, broken pots all over the ground tipped over, rusted
cans and garbage spewed all over the yard.
I have seen the people who live there once only on a Saturday.
I have asked other neighbors if there was a problem and perhaps we could go
over and help. (Things happen so maybe they could use help cleaning)
Everyone said, no that it was a young couple who was lazy and that stuff
had been there for years.
Most of the people in our neighborhood are very house proud and I love them
for it, but having one house like that in the neighborhood has not only
detracted from it's appearance, I now see that the people that live next to
them have moved out and are trying to rent the home. It frightens me to
think who would rent so close to a place that is such a disaster.
Is there an agency in Raleigh / Garner that could be notified to request
that this be taken care of?

Thanks again,
Jo


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Default Advice about VERY messy neighbor

I'm assuming you aren't in a neighborhood with a homeowners association or
covenants, because that would be the first way to go.

I've heard of people being able to get the sheriff involved (there was an
article in the N&O about such a case in Clayton), and the law enforcement
involvement seemed to be tied to proving that the mess is a health hazard.
The situation in the news article was because there was so much standing
water in the garbage around the home that there were fears of mosquito
breeding and then spreading disease. That might be your best bet. I don't
know the law, but I'll bet there isn't anything that you can do purely on an
appearance issue.

Pauline



"Joanna & Mark" wrote in message
...
Good morning everyone!
Hope everyone got their plants through the freeze safely.

I am inquiring about who to notify about a messy neighbor.
This isn't a "I have kids that make a mess" or "I just didn't get around to
cleaning up my yard for a couple of weeks", or even "This is an ongoing work
in progress."
The yard is covered in garbage with two broken down cars in the driveway
with torn bags of fertilizer, mulch and ohter moldy bags of god knows what
all over the vehicles, broken pots all over the ground tipped over, rusted
cans and garbage spewed all over the yard.
I have seen the people who live there once only on a Saturday.
I have asked other neighbors if there was a problem and perhaps we could go
over and help. (Things happen so maybe they could use help cleaning)
Everyone said, no that it was a young couple who was lazy and that stuff
had been there for years.
Most of the people in our neighborhood are very house proud and I love them
for it, but having one house like that in the neighborhood has not only
detracted from it's appearance, I now see that the people that live next to
them have moved out and are trying to rent the home. It frightens me to
think who would rent so close to a place that is such a disaster.
Is there an agency in Raleigh / Garner that could be notified to request
that this be taken care of?

Thanks again,
Jo


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