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Old 30-09-2004, 12:44 AM
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Default Ornamec works great!

at the suggestion (and reassurance) of this group i purchased and applied
the grass-only herbicide to combat the stilt grass infestation along my
creek. i was worried about the many ferns and wildflowers that the bamboo
was mixed up with and applied on a test area about a month ago...

it works great! stiltgrass is dead and gone and everything else looks
healthy. it's not cheap (~$35/qt., which makes ~12gal spray), and it sounds
like a pretty heavy-duty chemical...but if you're OK with that, it does
exactly what it claims. i wasn't even particularly careful about keeping it
off anything. i just did my 2nd application over a much larger area.

be gone, evil weed!

dookie



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Old 30-09-2004, 05:32 PM
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:44:08 GMT, "dookie"
wrote:

at the suggestion (and reassurance) of this group i purchased and applied
the grass-only herbicide to combat the stilt grass infestation along my
creek. i was worried about the many ferns and wildflowers that the bamboo
was mixed up with and applied on a test area about a month ago...

it works great! stiltgrass is dead and gone and everything else looks
healthy. it's not cheap (~$35/qt., which makes ~12gal spray), and it sounds
like a pretty heavy-duty chemical...but if you're OK with that, it does
exactly what it claims. i wasn't even particularly careful about keeping it
off anything. i just did my 2nd application over a much larger area.

be gone, evil weed!

dookie


I've been pulling it out by the roots to keep my 7 acres clear of it,
but it grows faster than I can pull. However, where I pull it, next
year it comes back very sparsely, and when I pull those, the next year
it doesn't come back. I would worry about spraying in riparian buffer
zones. Every little stream around here ends up in Jordan Lake, which
already has some big problems with pollution.
In the next three years I should have it all gone, but will always
need to pull out those stragglers. However, no one else in my
neighborhood seems to be pulling any of theirs, so once I am old and
feeble, it will win. Hmmmm.... maybe I need to get a life. ha ha
Kira
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Old 30-09-2004, 07:25 PM
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Yep, that's our problem Kira. I am barely able to keep it at bay
because NONE of my neighbors care about or fight it. As a
result, we keep having new, large patches pop up in different
places each time. I even find it in the way back woody parts.
UGH. Thanks DOT.
Raleighgirl
"Kira Dirlik" !! wrote in message
...
|
| On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:44:08 GMT, "dookie"
| wrote:
|
| at the suggestion (and reassurance) of this group i purchased
and applied
| the grass-only herbicide to combat the stilt grass infestation
along my
| creek. i was worried about the many ferns and wildflowers
that the bamboo
| was mixed up with and applied on a test area about a month
ago...
|
| it works great! stiltgrass is dead and gone and everything
else looks
| healthy. it's not cheap (~$35/qt., which makes ~12gal spray),
and it sounds
| like a pretty heavy-duty chemical...but if you're OK with
that, it does
| exactly what it claims. i wasn't even particularly careful
about keeping it
| off anything. i just did my 2nd application over a much
larger area.
|
| be gone, evil weed!
|
| dookie
|
| I've been pulling it out by the roots to keep my 7 acres clear
of it,
| but it grows faster than I can pull. However, where I pull it,
next
| year it comes back very sparsely, and when I pull those, the
next year
| it doesn't come back. I would worry about spraying in riparian
buffer
| zones. Every little stream around here ends up in Jordan Lake,
which
| already has some big problems with pollution.
| In the next three years I should have it all gone, but will
always
| need to pull out those stragglers. However, no one else in my
| neighborhood seems to be pulling any of theirs, so once I am
old and
| feeble, it will win. Hmmmm.... maybe I need to get a life.
ha ha
| Kira


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Where do you buy Ornamec at? I am in Durham.

Thanks!

"dookie" wrote in message
. com...
at the suggestion (and reassurance) of this group i purchased and applied
the grass-only herbicide to combat the stilt grass infestation along my
creek. i was worried about the many ferns and wildflowers that the bamboo
was mixed up with and applied on a test area about a month ago...

it works great! stiltgrass is dead and gone and everything else looks
healthy. it's not cheap (~$35/qt., which makes ~12gal spray), and it

sounds
like a pretty heavy-duty chemical...but if you're OK with that, it does
exactly what it claims. i wasn't even particularly careful about keeping

it
off anything. i just did my 2nd application over a much larger area.

be gone, evil weed!

dookie




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Old 05-10-2004, 12:31 AM
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southern states.

dookie

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Where do you buy Ornamec at? I am in Durham.

Thanks!





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Old 05-10-2004, 06:40 AM
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:25:40 GMT, "Raleighgirl"
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Yep, that's our problem Kira. I am barely able to keep it at bay
because NONE of my neighbors care about or fight it. As a
result, we keep having new, large patches pop up in different
places each time. I even find it in the way back woody parts.
UGH. Thanks DOT.
Raleighgirl
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I spent 2 hours crawling under the eleagnus today finding the
little, what I call, "frontiers" of new patches, and pulling them out.
I keep trying to get my son to come over and help. BWAAA HAAA HAAA.
Yes, it grows in sun, and also in the most shady parts that NEVER
get any direct sunlight (nor even diffused).
But don't blame DOT. It all came from the Japanese using it as a
container packing material, and then the US dumping it in the New
Jersey trash meadows. It has been spreading ever since. DOT is
nowhere near my place, and it is all through the many, many acres of
woods around here, and especially in riparian buffers.
Our children's children will just accept it as the all-pervasive
ground cover that has always been, I guess. No more interesting
discoveries of old bottles and shards, and no myriad species of native
plants.
Sigh. Goes along with everything else humanity is doing to the
planet...... ooops... another story, another newsgroup.
Smiles,
Kira
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:06 PM
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"Kira Dirlik" !! wrote
Yes, it grows in sun, and also in the most shady parts that NEVER
get any direct sunlight (nor even diffused).
But don't blame DOT. It all came from the Japanese using it as a
container packing material, and then the US dumping it in the New
Jersey trash meadows. It has been spreading ever since. DOT is
nowhere near my place, and it is all through the many, many acres of
woods around here, and especially in riparian buffers.
Our children's children will just accept it as the all-pervasive
ground cover that has always been, I guess. No more interesting
discoveries of old bottles and shards, and no myriad species of native
plants.


I don't know what this is. Can you tell me where to find pictures of this
stuff? Does it flower? I have some kind of wildly spreading wildflower I am
trying to identify. I'm beginning to wonder if this is what it is.

Sandie


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Old 05-10-2004, 03:32 PM
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Sandie said:


I don't know what this is. Can you tell me where to find pictures of this
stuff? Does it flower? I have some kind of wildly spreading wildflower I am
trying to identify. I'm beginning to wonder if this is what it is.


I HATE JAPANESE STILT GRASS

It's gone from a clump at the edge of my lawn to completely invading
my ivy literally to death (heah, some hate ivy, but it was staying PUT
and the stilt grass is not), big patches of lawn, the woods, even my
mint garden. I've got to get a big concentrated bottle of Ornamec,
because thus far I've only been able to find the squirt bottles and
they're damned expensive, and clumsy/painful to use over large areas.
And I've got large areas. I feel like it's a losing battle.

http://samab.org/Focus/Invasive/JapStilt/japstilt.html
http://www.naturalsciences.org/conse...stiltgrass.htm

Sue




Sandie


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Old 06-10-2004, 05:37 AM
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dookie wrote:

at the suggestion (and reassurance) of this group i purchased and applied
the grass-only herbicide to combat the stilt grass infestation along my
creek. i was worried about the many ferns and wildflowers that the bamboo
was mixed up with and applied on a test area about a month ago...


Anyone know if it's too late to kill it or has it already gone to seed? And
should I be able to tell just by looking at it? The dark half of my entire back
yard is a huge 1-2' tall infestation.

it works great! stiltgrass is dead and gone and everything else looks
healthy. it's not cheap (~$35/qt., which makes ~12gal spray), and it sounds
like a pretty heavy-duty chemical...but if you're OK with that, it does
exactly what it claims. i wasn't even particularly careful about keeping it
off anything. i just did my 2nd application over a much larger area.

be gone, evil weed!

dookie




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Old 06-10-2004, 02:34 PM
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Anyone know if it's too late to kill it or has it already gone to seed? And
should I be able to tell just by looking at it? The dark half of my entire back
yard is a huge 1-2' tall infestation.


It is still not too late in most of the places I've seen, but it is
very, very, very late. It was only two weeks ago that I pulled apart
the terminal leaves and found the first flower bud. Since then it has
started blooming every where (around Chapel Hill/ Durham) and the
seeds form almost immediately afterwards. You need to start pulling/
weed-eating/ or spraying in mid-September, when it suddenly starts
'taking over', which is really a burst of elongation that it goes
through before pushing out it's seeds, sort of like cilantro bolting
before flowering, or the stem on a dandelion seed head that rises
overnight in a freshly mowed lawn. It all happens really quickly once
that elongation starts.

Yes, you should be able to see the flowers, which stick out the end
and look like other 'bottle-brush' grass seed heads (1-2 inch long
main stem with short side stems at 90 degrees with seeds hanging at
end.) If you can see the flowers it is probably too late to spray or
weed-eat, you need to actually pull it out and carry it away to get
rid of the seeds. But, no matter what you do, if you have a lot this
year you will have a lot next year as well. What you are doing by
removing it before it sets seed is reducing the seed bank for next
year, or rather you are actually preventing a huge increase in the
number of seeds for next year (and beyond.) But if you prevent
seeding this year, and do the same thing next year, each year after
that you will have less and less, unless you are downstream from a
neighboring patch.

It's not cancer, people, and it's not hard to pull, or cut, or get rid
of over time. Just make the effort once a year to disrupt it's life
cycle and mention it to neighbors or passers-by. I'm amazed that many
people still don't know that it is an annual and that they think in
terms of it coming back from the roots each year.

I really don't think ornamec is necessary in the average residential
yard, since it pulls out so easily and quickly from around bushes. A
light weight string trimmer works great in open areas. It just takes
time, but it is relatively pleasant work. Think of microstegium
pulling time as the new apple harvest time. Mid September. Don't
wait until you see the flowers. Enjoy it and count your Blessings, or
hire someone else who will.

David


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David wrote:

Yes, you should be able to see the flowers, which stick out the end
and look like other 'bottle-brush' grass seed heads (1-2 inch long
main stem with short side stems at 90 degrees with seeds hanging at
end.) If you can see the flowers it is probably too late to spray or
weed-eat, you need to actually pull it out and carry it away to get
rid of the seeds.


Thanks, David! Drat. I can see seed things. Now, if I just pull it all and
carry it away, where should it go? I assume that if I put it out in the "yard
waste" day the seeds will wind up in someone's mulch or worse! Any suggestions
from the group?

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Bonfire pit? (Day after a good rain.)
Kira

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:39:46 GMT, Brent Harsh
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Now, if I just pull it all and
carry it away, where should it go? I assume that if I put it out in the "yard
waste" day the seeds will wind up in someone's mulch or worse! Any suggestions
from the group?

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Dear Dookie,
I ws so happy to hear that Ornamec works so well...I am completely infested with stilt grass and was dying to try it--at any expense--but needed to hear the encouragement that you gave! I'm off to buy some this weekend! Thank you!
Kathie (I'm also a dookie, btw!)
QUOTE=dookie]at the suggestion (and reassurance) of this group i purchased and applied
the grass-only herbicide to combat the stilt grass infestation along my
creek. i was worried about the many ferns and wildflowers that the bamboo
was mixed up with and applied on a test area about a month ago...

it works great! stiltgrass is dead and gone and everything else looks
healthy. it's not cheap (~$35/qt., which makes ~12gal spray), and it sounds
like a pretty heavy-duty chemical...but if you're OK with that, it does
exactly what it claims. i wasn't even particularly careful about keeping it
off anything. i just did my 2nd application over a much larger area.

be gone, evil weed!

dookie[/quote]
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Dear Dookie,
I ws so happy to hear that Ornamec works so well...I am completely
infested with stilt grass and was dying to try it--at any expense--but
needed to hear the encouragement that you gave! I'm off to buy some
this weekend! Thank you!
Kathie (I'm also a dookie, btw!)
QUOTE=dookie]at the suggestion (and reassurance) of this group i
purchased and applied
the grass-only herbicide to combat the stilt grass infestation along
my
creek. i was worried about the many ferns and wildflowers that the
bamboo
was mixed up with and applied on a test area about a month ago...

it works great! stiltgrass is dead and gone and everything else looks
healthy. it's not cheap (~$35/qt., which makes ~12gal spray), and it
sounds
like a pretty heavy-duty chemical...but if you're OK with that, it
does
exactly what it claims. i wasn't even particularly careful about
keeping it
off anything. i just did my 2nd application over a much larger area.

be gone, evil weed!

dookie


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From another thread, I learned of Hi-Yield Grass Killer at Ace Hardware.
I applied it all over my "back 40," which was covered in stilt grass
waist high. I sprayed for nearly 2 hours and used most of the quart,
also around $35, mixed exactly as recommended. Of course, this was
last resort after pulling the grass since Sept 2001, when Colin Powell
urged us to rip out terrorism by the root wherever we found it, and
which I executed on the backyard invader I have come to call the
"Tali-bamboo."

Taunting me with martinis from the deck, my husband laughed at what we
both believed to be a futile final assault. For two weeks after, I did
not see the greeny robustness of the weed but neither was it dead. But
after a 2 week vacation, I returned to a field of DEAD stilt grass--I
mean, DEAD AS A DOORNAIL DEAD. A month later I got around to raking up
15 bags of stilt grass hay, and I did not see a living leaf.

I applied the grass killer when no rain was forecast for a week because
I did not want it to go into our creek. It killed nothing else around
it; it's a wild area, mainly vines. I am planning to reapply as soon
as it starts poking up next year and as needed after. I have spent so
many hours on this grass that an hour or two of spraying is nothing,
and if it does get out of hand again, I won't have either the
hand-pulling or raking to repeat either.

This grass showed up after Hurricane Fran, when this area was scoured
by the over-flowing creek. I called it "hurricane grass" when it first
came up. My neighbor thought it was great looking and still does. It's
an easy-to-grow lawn, as far as he is concerned, and he just mows it.


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