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Den. Blue Twinkle 'S&W'
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Another lovely one. UNfortunately, my "Wildcatt" is still not re-installed. I
wonder how closely Blue Twinkle is related to Blue Sparkle?

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Dave Gillingham wrote:
Another lovely one. UNfortunately, my "Wildcatt" is still not re-installed. I
wonder how closely Blue Twinkle is related to Blue Sparkle?

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Den. Blue Sparkle is: Den. Blue Twinkle is:
gouldii 50% caniliculatum 50%
nindii 37.5% lineale 15.6%
lineale 6.3% gouldii 12.5%
schroederianum 6.3% superbiens 12.5%
nindii 6.3%
schroederianum 3.1%

Reka
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Thanks Reka, Do you have Wildcatt too?

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Reka wrote:
Dave Gillingham wrote:
Another lovely one. UNfortunately, my "Wildcatt" is still not
re-installed. I wonder how closely Blue Twinkle is related to Blue
Sparkle? On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:03:36 -0800, "wendy7" wrote:

Den. Blue Twinkle 'S&W'
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Den. Blue Sparkle is: Den. Blue Twinkle is:
gouldii 50% caniliculatum 50%
nindii 37.5% lineale 15.6%
lineale 6.3% gouldii 12.5%
schroederianum 6.3% superbiens 12.5%
nindii 6.3%
schroederianum 3.1%

Reka



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wendy7 wrote:
Thanks Reka, Do you have Wildcatt too?

Morning, Wendy!

No, I have Orchid Wiz.

Reka


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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:01:31 +0100, Reka wrote:

Dave Gillingham wrote:
Another lovely one. UNfortunately, my "Wildcatt" is still not re-installed. I
wonder how closely Blue Twinkle is related to Blue Sparkle?

On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:03:36 -0800, "wendy7" wrote:

Den. Blue Twinkle 'S&W'
Another reliable bloomer.

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Den. Blue Sparkle is: Den. Blue Twinkle is:
gouldii 50% caniliculatum 50%
nindii 37.5% lineale 15.6%
lineale 6.3% gouldii 12.5%
schroederianum 6.3% superbiens 12.5%
nindii 6.3%
schroederianum 3.1%

Reka



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Reka, out of curiosity:

Have you seen Wildcatt? How does Orchid Wiz compare with it for user interface,
range of information & presentation, comprehensiveness of content, updates &
recency? What source does it use? Where do you get it? How much? TIA

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wendy7 wrote:
Thanks Reka, Do you have Wildcatt too?

Morning, Wendy!

No, I have Orchid Wiz.

Reka

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Good question Dave, yes Reka I would like to know too.

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Dave Gillingham wrote:
Reka, out of curiosity:

Have you seen Wildcatt? How does Orchid Wiz compare with it for user
interface, range of information & presentation, comprehensiveness of
content, updates & recency? What source does it use? Where do you
get it? How much? TIA

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Thanks Reka, Do you have Wildcatt too?

Morning, Wendy!

No, I have Orchid Wiz.

Reka

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I was one of the original subscribers to WildCatt, and thought it was one of
the most useful programs out there, and still think the Grays are owed a
huge debt of thanks for coming up with it.

When Alex came out with OrchidWiz, I was a bit skeptical, but have learned
to really appreciate its simplicity and functionality.

Surprising to me was the fact that - even though I had a more-or-less
"standing order" for Wildcatt updates - I have not received a single email
from them since OW came on the market.

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Reka, out of curiosity:

Have you seen Wildcatt? How does Orchid Wiz compare with it for user
interface,
range of information & presentation, comprehensiveness of content, updates
&
recency? What source does it use? Where do you get it? How much? TIA

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wendy7 wrote:
Thanks Reka, Do you have Wildcatt too?

Morning, Wendy!

No, I have Orchid Wiz.

Reka

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Dave Gillingham wrote:
Reka, out of curiosity:

Have you seen Wildcatt? How does Orchid Wiz compare with it for user interface,
range of information & presentation, comprehensiveness of content, updates &
recency? What source does it use? Where do you get it? How much? TIA

Sorry, I have no idea what Wildcatt looks like. I have had Orchid Wiz
since the first version and am quite happy with it. You can order it and
look at screenshots and specs he
http://www.orchidwiz.com/servlet/StoreFront

Alex, who wrote the program, is very helpful if you have any problems
and happy for suggestions and photo contributions.

Reka


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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:14:11 +1000, Dave Gillingham
wrote:

Reka, out of curiosity:

Have you seen Wildcatt? How does Orchid Wiz compare with it for user interface,
range of information & presentation, comprehensiveness of content, updates &
recency? What source does it use? Where do you get it? How much? TIA


Both are based on RHS information and the AOS Awards Quarterly.
Orchid Wiz is very photo based.
Wildcatt is a text based program.
Orchid Wiz was born out of the frustration built when the AOS's own
program promising pix of award plants kept being stalled. There were
some issues with copywrites when it originally came on the market.
They seem to have been settled.

WildCatt does the tree chart of a plant's lineage. It will also do
the pie chart of the species that you see on Orchid Wiz's page.
It will research by generations the prodigy of any particular plant.
It lists only plants that have at sometime been awarded or are in the
background of awarded hybrids. It is has the full text of the AQ's
listing for all awards. It has hybridizer information on all the
plants.

Orchid Wiz has photos, but of examples of the hybrids or species. None
are the award photos from AOS. It has a more modern database engine.

E-AOS is the "Official Electronic Awards Quarterly" research program
of the AOS. It is not being updated as fast as it should be. It has
install issues due to worries about copywrite.


The advantage either Orchid Wiz or E-AOS should have is that they put
in all the changes in species as awarded and linked to the new names.
In Wildcatt Helga changed all the Oncidiums when the 'book' of
approved changes came out. But when species change - they do not link
back to the original name.

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One of the biggest "pluses" I see with OW is the awards report. If you are
looking for comparative data, it can create a PDF of all awards for a given
grex, giving you a single document with all of the stats.

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:14:11 +1000, Dave Gillingham
wrote:

Reka, out of curiosity:

Have you seen Wildcatt? How does Orchid Wiz compare with it for user
interface,
range of information & presentation, comprehensiveness of content, updates
&
recency? What source does it use? Where do you get it? How much? TIA


Both are based on RHS information and the AOS Awards Quarterly.
Orchid Wiz is very photo based.
Wildcatt is a text based program.
Orchid Wiz was born out of the frustration built when the AOS's own
program promising pix of award plants kept being stalled. There were
some issues with copywrites when it originally came on the market.
They seem to have been settled.

WildCatt does the tree chart of a plant's lineage. It will also do
the pie chart of the species that you see on Orchid Wiz's page.
It will research by generations the prodigy of any particular plant.
It lists only plants that have at sometime been awarded or are in the
background of awarded hybrids. It is has the full text of the AQ's
listing for all awards. It has hybridizer information on all the
plants.

Orchid Wiz has photos, but of examples of the hybrids or species. None
are the award photos from AOS. It has a more modern database engine.

E-AOS is the "Official Electronic Awards Quarterly" research program
of the AOS. It is not being updated as fast as it should be. It has
install issues due to worries about copywrite.


The advantage either Orchid Wiz or E-AOS should have is that they put
in all the changes in species as awarded and linked to the new names.
In Wildcatt Helga changed all the Oncidiums when the 'book' of
approved changes came out. But when species change - they do not link
back to the original name.

-- just my 2 cent view.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids



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"Ray B" wrote in message
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Surprising to me was the fact that - even though I had a more-or-less
"standing order" for Wildcatt updates - I have not received a single email
from them since OW came on the market.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


Me neither.

K Barrett


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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:06:09 GMT in B0pfh.4188$IG6.1800@trndny01 Ray B wrote:
I was one of the original subscribers to WildCatt, and thought it was one of
the most useful programs out there, and still think the Grays are owed a
huge debt of thanks for coming up with it.

When Alex came out with OrchidWiz, I was a bit skeptical, but have learned
to really appreciate its simplicity and functionality.

Surprising to me was the fact that - even though I had a more-or-less
"standing order" for Wildcatt updates - I have not received a single email
from them since OW came on the market.


How do OW and WC compare for integration with other software?
(IE automatically doing a set of queries with each new dataset
to see if a cross has a name registered for it. Or flag typos
when adding a plant to a personal tracking system. Or flag
when an existing plant has had its genus changed by the taxonomists
Or having a query go to this database as well as a non-orchid
database. Or making the information available via SMS when
I'm out buying plants).

And how do they compare on licenses for disseminating specific
pieces of information contained within them?
(IE, If I were to divide my sharry baby and sell it and wanted
to include the culture sheet from OW or WC, what sort of a royalties
would be desired. And whether or not terms would change for
single sale vs. many sales).

I found OW advertising interesting from a reference viewpoint.
However, I found the advertised product lacking from a integration
viewpoint. Alex appeared afraid to discuss his product from
an integration view point. He seemed afraid, and rightfully so,
that someone would dump all of his data and do another product
based on his data.

Anyhoo, I'd appreciate opinions from folks that use either product
and craft their own SQL, or kludge flatfile freeform databases for
other information.
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:23:44 -0800, "K Barrett"
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"Ray B" wrote in message
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Surprising to me was the fact that - even though I had a more-or-less
"standing order" for Wildcatt updates - I have not received a single email
from them since OW came on the market.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


Me neither.

K Barrett


We got our fall update. E-AOS has not updated since June that I know
of.
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