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Dendrobium Blue Sparkle
I bought this at a show a couple of years ago. The tag indicated its clone name
was 'Oka'. In fact - and now I'm going to air my complete ignorance of awards - what the original tag has on it is: Dendrobium Blue Sparkle 'Oka' AM/AOS Its genealogy is: D. gouldii 50% D. nindii 37.5% D. lineale 6.25% D. schroderianum 6.25% D. nindii is a beautiful Spatulata Dendrobe from NE Australia & New Guinea - reputedly very difficult to grow in cultivation. For those who have Orchid Wiz - I'm certain there is an error in the entry for Blue Sparkle. The genealogy page has photos for gouldii, lineale & schroderianum. The photos shown for schroderianum are of D. densiflorum, with an indication that schroderianum is a synonym for densiflorum. I have problems with this: 1. I don't believe schroderianum *is* a synonym for densiflorum. Baker & Baker indicate that it's D. schroderi that has been a synonym for D. densiflorum. 2. However, D. schroderianum is a historical synonym for D. striaenopsis, an orchid from Section Phalaenanthe of the Dendrobes, which is very similar to D. bigibbum, D. phalaenopsis, or whatever other taxonomic label is currently popular. In fact, D. phalaenopsis has at times been regarded as synonymous with both D. striaenopsis and D. bigibbum. And D. striaenopsis comes from the West New Guinea/Indonesian region, a similar habitat to the other 3 components of Blue Sparkle. 3. D. densiflorum belongs to Section Callista of the Dendrobes. There does not seem to be any densiflorum - or indeed any Section Callista - contribution to Blue Sparkle. 4. Finally, It is very common to find a small proportion of Section Phalaenthe species in a predominantly Section Spatulata hybrid - eg striaenopsis in this case. So I'm sure the D. schroderianum in the genealogy it what today is known as D. striaenopsis, *not* D. densiflorum. Dave Gillingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To email me remove the .private from my email address. |
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Dendrobium Blue Sparkle
This one takes the cake or steals the show Dave,
Speaking of shows, if one should take this one in how do the judges judge for shape? The antelope type flowers are all different. Cheers Wendy "Dave Gillingham" wrote in message ... I bought this at a show a couple of years ago. The tag indicated its clone name was 'Oka'. In fact - and now I'm going to air my complete ignorance of awards - what the original tag has on it is: Dendrobium Blue Sparkle 'Oka' AM/AOS Its genealogy is: D. gouldii 50% D. nindii 37.5% D. lineale 6.25% D. schroderianum 6.25% |
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Dendrobium Blue Sparkle
I love it too, Wendy. Given the awards it has won I'd love to be able to grow
it to its full potential. Judging shape? I try not to get too deeply involved with judging criteria - knowing their bad points tends to spoil my enjoyment of my orchids. However: Judging by "general" judges - I don't really know. Judging by A(ustralasian) N(ative) O(rchid) S(ociety) judges: To judge for ANOS I believe they are expected to have a good knowledge of the contributions expected by the component species, & hence the kind of thing to expect in terms of shape etc from a hybrid. eg longer, more erect antlers would be typical of antennatum, & therefore expected in order to be judged highly. I guess after that it's a case of how well this apple resembles a very good apple, when compared with the quality of that orange. Any ANOS judges lurking who can make a more useful contribution than this? On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:08:34 -0800, "Wendy7" wrote: This one takes the cake or steals the show Dave, Speaking of shows, if one should take this one in how do the judges judge for shape? The antelope type flowers are all different. Cheers Wendy "Dave Gillingham" wrote in message .. . I bought this at a show a couple of years ago. The tag indicated its clone name was 'Oka'. In fact - and now I'm going to air my complete ignorance of awards - what the original tag has on it is: Dendrobium Blue Sparkle 'Oka' AM/AOS Its genealogy is: D. gouldii 50% D. nindii 37.5% D. lineale 6.25% D. schroderianum 6.25% Dave Gillingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To email me remove the .private from my email address. |
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Dendrobium Blue Sparkle
Thanks, Tennis.
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:49:31 -0500, tenman wrote: Dave Gillingham wrote: I bought this at a show a couple of years ago. The tag indicated its clone name was 'Oka'. In fact - and now I'm going to air my complete ignorance of awards - what the original tag has on it is: Dendrobium Blue Sparkle 'Oka' AM/AOS The blueness and floriferousness sure puts on a pretty display! Dave Gillingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To email me remove the .private from my email address. |
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Dendrobium Blue Sparkle
Good answers Dave, I forgot about their antenna's length & then I can't
believe they have to do a flower count no? Good growing, Cheers Wendy "Dave Gillingham" wrote in message ... I love it too, Wendy. Given the awards it has won I'd love to be able to grow it to its full potential. Judging shape? I try not to get too deeply involved with judging criteria - knowing their bad points tends to spoil my enjoyment of my orchids. However: Judging by "general" judges - I don't really know. Judging by A(ustralasian) N(ative) O(rchid) S(ociety) judges: To judge for ANOS I believe they are expected to have a good knowledge of the contributions expected by the component species, & hence the kind of thing to expect in terms of shape etc from a hybrid. eg longer, more erect antlers would be typical of antennatum, & therefore expected in order to be judged highly. I guess after that it's a case of how well this apple resembles a very good apple, when compared with the quality of that orange. Any ANOS judges lurking who can make a more useful contribution than this? On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:08:34 -0800, "Wendy7" wrote: This one takes the cake or steals the show Dave, Speaking of shows, if one should take this one in how do the judges judge for shape? The antelope type flowers are all different. Cheers Wendy "Dave Gillingham" wrote in message . .. I bought this at a show a couple of years ago. The tag indicated its clone name was 'Oka'. In fact - and now I'm going to air my complete ignorance of awards - what the original tag has on it is: Dendrobium Blue Sparkle 'Oka' AM/AOS Its genealogy is: D. gouldii 50% D. nindii 37.5% D. lineale 6.25% D. schroderianum 6.25% Dave Gillingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To email me remove the .private from my email address. |
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Dendrobium Blue Sparkle
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:34:08 -0800, "Wendy7" wrote:
Good answers Dave, I forgot about their antenna's length & then I can't believe they have to do a flower count no? Yup! They call it floriferousness! And then, do the blooms stand up & look at you? More ticks. And are they nicely spaced? More ticks. Lots of racemes? More ticks. My lasianthera 'Sepik Blue' x tangerinum that I posted earlier doesn't do too well despite its lovely colour - the blooms are a crowded mess, & some are even upside down. But I don't care. I love the plant. Good growing, Cheers Wendy "Dave Gillingham" wrote in message .. . I love it too, Wendy. Given the awards it has won I'd love to be able to grow it to its full potential. Judging shape? I try not to get too deeply involved with judging criteria - knowing their bad points tends to spoil my enjoyment of my orchids. However: Judging by "general" judges - I don't really know. Judging by A(ustralasian) N(ative) O(rchid) S(ociety) judges: To judge for ANOS I believe they are expected to have a good knowledge of the contributions expected by the component species, & hence the kind of thing to expect in terms of shape etc from a hybrid. eg longer, more erect antlers would be typical of antennatum, & therefore expected in order to be judged highly. I guess after that it's a case of how well this apple resembles a very good apple, when compared with the quality of that orange. Any ANOS judges lurking who can make a more useful contribution than this? On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:08:34 -0800, "Wendy7" wrote: This one takes the cake or steals the show Dave, Speaking of shows, if one should take this one in how do the judges judge for shape? The antelope type flowers are all different. Cheers Wendy "Dave Gillingham" wrote in message ... I bought this at a show a couple of years ago. The tag indicated its clone name was 'Oka'. In fact - and now I'm going to air my complete ignorance of awards - what the original tag has on it is: Dendrobium Blue Sparkle 'Oka' AM/AOS Its genealogy is: D. gouldii 50% D. nindii 37.5% D. lineale 6.25% D. schroderianum 6.25% Dave Gillingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To email me remove the .private from my email address. Dave Gillingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To email me remove the .private from my email address. |
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