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culture sheet for ? Grammatophyllum Speciosum v. citrinum
Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these
and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in this lifetime. What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with the rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I still don't know if I'm giving them what they need. I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims. I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what do I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how often and what do you feed them with. |
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If your plants continue to grow, and you aren't losing the leaves to patches
of black rot, then the best advice is to "keep doing what you're doing," as you're obviously giving them what they need. The question "is sphagnum the correct medium" - by itself - really cannot be answered for two reasons: the plants use the medium for mechanical support and moisture/nutrition holding only, and it depends a lot on your growing conditions and watering habits. Going back to the theme of the first paragraph - it appears to be working for you right now, I'd just keep an eye on it for getting overly compacted. What do they need to bloom? More of what you're doing and maturity. Gramms tend to be pretty big plants, and even the smaller clones of G speciosum v. citrinum can get to 18"-24" tall (or more) before blooming. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info! "dusty" wrote in message news:1124013534.e40c91125daeb2481d04b711442608bf@t eranews... Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in this lifetime. What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with the rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I still don't know if I'm giving them what they need. I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims. I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what do I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how often and what do you feed them with. |
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Thanks ray
the plants have previously bloomed as there is a cut off spike stub on the old growth of each plant. 2 plants have 3 back bulbs each and one new growth each which are aproaching the size of the back bulbs. the third plant has 4 back bulbs and 2 new growths between 1/2 to 3/4 the size of the back bulbs. I use an automatic overhead low pressure watering system. (Farmtek) in winter it waters twice a week. in summer I set it for three or four times a week depending how hot and dry it is. This setting is best for my Catts which I have way too many of. I have auto vents opens (72F) and a 16 inch fan runs at (75F) Feeding; I use schultz orchid food 1/2 tsp per gallon in a 2 gallon pump sprayer once a month and spray everything after a watering event. That's about it, I now have to get back to repotting my Catt.jungle thanks again dusty |
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dusty wrote: I've Googled all over the place and found only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in this lifetime. FWIW, if that is one of Charles and Margaret Baker's culture sheets, it is probably worth the money. Their culture sheets include detailed environmental and climate information for the natural habitat of the orchid, as well as specific cultural advice. The culture sheets all have the same format, and I believe there are some free samples that give you an idea of what information is included. [google, google] Aha! The free culture sheets are he http://www.orchidculture.com/COD/FREE/index.html The Gramatophyllum culture sheets are he http://www.orchidculture.com/COD/she...rammatophyllum |
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I suspect you have Gram. scriptum rather than speciosum -- speciosum gets
HUGE fast. [Both are species and so should not be capitalized.] We have not grown speciosum for ourselves, but did babysit a few for a friend for a couple of months after last season's hurricanes. Plants with just 5-6 growths were 3' tall or better in 5 gallon pots. Our scriptum are more manageable in size [6-8 growths fit nicely in an 8" basket with a little room to grow and are perhaps 16" tall], and doing well in 50/50 sphagnum/fir bark, with very bright light [near vanda levels], but we are finding it necessary to give them a little extra water compared to the Catt-tribe species in the same area such as Enc. cordigera and Rhy. digbyana. HTH, Kenni "dusty" wrote in message news:1124013534.e40c91125daeb2481d04b711442608bf@t eranews... Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in this lifetime. What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with the rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I still don't know if I'm giving them what they need. I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims. I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what do I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how often and what do you feed them with. |
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I believe Kenni is right in that you probably have G scriptum v citrinum.
Mine is in a 2 gal container with mostly bark, has 6 growths with room for 1 or 2 more, and is just sending up a bloom stem. It's growing in Angraecum-to-Cattleya light conditions under the Vandas and so gets plenty of water and fertilizer during the growth season. Dryer in winter. In any case, unless you have a lot of space, you probably won't want more than 1. Gary "Kenni Judd" wrote in message ... I suspect you have Gram. scriptum rather than speciosum -- speciosum gets HUGE fast. [Both are species and so should not be capitalized.] We have not grown speciosum for ourselves, but did babysit a few for a friend for a couple of months after last season's hurricanes. Plants with just 5-6 growths were 3' tall or better in 5 gallon pots. Our scriptum are more manageable in size [6-8 growths fit nicely in an 8" basket with a little room to grow and are perhaps 16" tall], and doing well in 50/50 sphagnum/fir bark, with very bright light [near vanda levels], but we are finding it necessary to give them a little extra water compared to the Catt-tribe species in the same area such as Enc. cordigera and Rhy. digbyana. HTH, Kenni "dusty" wrote in message news:1124013534.e40c91125daeb2481d04b711442608bf@t eranews... Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in this lifetime. What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with the rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I still don't know if I'm giving them what they need. I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims. I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what do I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how often and what do you feed them with. |
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Thanks Kenni
from your description I must have grammatophyllum scriptum v. citrinum as my plants dont exceed 18 inchs in height including leaves. I did however get the name right of the tag and is capitalized as the tag states. Mine are in 8 inch pots and will have to go into something bigger next year as they are really root bound and about to go over the edge. Well I'm off to google the world with this new information. thanks agian Dusty |
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I see _lots_ of tags with errors -- capitalization, spelling, misplaced or
missing quotation marks or parentheses, etc. Or even, as in your case, wrong name altogether. We do our best to correct those within our control ... Kenni "dusty" wrote in message ... Thanks Kenni from your description I must have grammatophyllum scriptum v. citrinum as my plants dont exceed 18 inchs in height including leaves. I did however get the name right of the tag and is capitalized as the tag states. Mine are in 8 inch pots and will have to go into something bigger next year as they are really root bound and about to go over the edge. Well I'm off to google the world with this new information. thanks agian Dusty |
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I have a rather large collection of wrongly taged phals I bought of the out
of bloom sale table. I'm thinking that it's not the grower but people in the store that are switching tags for whatever reasons. However the grammatophyllums names where printed on the pots. Grow well and bloom magnificently dusty |
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