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Old 14-08-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default culture sheet for ? Grammatophyllum Speciosum v. citrinum

Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these
and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where
given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All
three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found
only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a
paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in
this lifetime.
What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with the
rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some
repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I
still don't know if I'm giving them what they need.

I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew
how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best
guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims.

I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what do
I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how
often and what do you feed them with.
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Old 14-08-2005, 01:09 PM
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If your plants continue to grow, and you aren't losing the leaves to patches
of black rot, then the best advice is to "keep doing what you're doing," as
you're obviously giving them what they need.

The question "is sphagnum the correct medium" - by itself - really cannot be
answered for two reasons: the plants use the medium for mechanical support
and moisture/nutrition holding only, and it depends a lot on your growing
conditions and watering habits. Going back to the theme of the first
paragraph - it appears to be working for you right now, I'd just keep an eye
on it for getting overly compacted.

What do they need to bloom? More of what you're doing and maturity. Gramms
tend to be pretty big plants, and even the smaller clones of G speciosum v.
citrinum can get to 18"-24" tall (or more) before blooming.

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Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these
and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where
given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All
three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found
only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a
paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in
this lifetime.
What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with
the
rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some
repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I
still don't know if I'm giving them what they need.

I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew
how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best
guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims.

I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what
do
I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how
often and what do you feed them with.



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Old 14-08-2005, 02:46 PM
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Thanks ray
the plants have previously bloomed as there is a cut off spike stub on the
old growth of each plant. 2 plants have 3 back bulbs each and one new
growth each which are aproaching the size of the back bulbs. the third
plant has 4 back bulbs and 2 new growths between 1/2 to 3/4 the size of the
back bulbs.
I use an automatic overhead low pressure watering system. (Farmtek) in
winter it waters twice a week. in summer I set it for three or four times a
week depending how hot and dry it is. This setting is best for my Catts
which I have way too many of. I have auto vents opens (72F) and a 16 inch
fan runs at (75F)
Feeding; I use schultz orchid food 1/2 tsp per gallon in a 2 gallon pump
sprayer once a month and spray everything after a watering event.
That's about it, I now have to get back to repotting my Catt.jungle
thanks again
dusty
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Old 14-08-2005, 02:53 PM
 
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dusty wrote:
I've Googled all over the place and found
only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a
paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in
this lifetime.


FWIW, if that is one of Charles and Margaret Baker's culture sheets, it
is probably worth the money. Their culture sheets include detailed
environmental and climate information for the natural habitat of the
orchid, as well as specific cultural advice. The culture sheets all
have the same format, and I believe there are some free samples that
give you an idea of what information is included.

[google, google]

Aha!

The free culture sheets are he
http://www.orchidculture.com/COD/FREE/index.html

The Gramatophyllum culture sheets are he
http://www.orchidculture.com/COD/she...rammatophyllum

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Old 14-08-2005, 07:12 PM
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I suspect you have Gram. scriptum rather than speciosum -- speciosum gets
HUGE fast. [Both are species and so should not be capitalized.] We have
not grown speciosum for ourselves, but did babysit a few for a friend for a
couple of months after last season's hurricanes. Plants with just 5-6
growths were 3' tall or better in 5 gallon pots.

Our scriptum are more manageable in size [6-8 growths fit nicely in an 8"
basket with a little room to grow and are perhaps 16" tall], and doing well
in 50/50 sphagnum/fir bark, with very bright light [near vanda levels], but
we are finding it necessary to give them a little extra water compared to
the Catt-tribe species in the same area such as Enc. cordigera and Rhy.
digbyana. HTH,

Kenni


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Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these
and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where
given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All
three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found
only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a
paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in
this lifetime.
What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with
the
rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some
repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I
still don't know if I'm giving them what they need.

I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew
how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best
guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims.

I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what
do
I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how
often and what do you feed them with.





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Old 15-08-2005, 02:01 AM
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I believe Kenni is right in that you probably have G scriptum v citrinum.
Mine is in a 2 gal container with mostly bark, has 6 growths with room for 1
or 2 more, and is just sending up a bloom stem. It's growing in
Angraecum-to-Cattleya light conditions under the Vandas and so gets plenty
of water and fertilizer during the growth season. Dryer in winter. In any
case, unless you have a lot of space, you probably won't want more than 1.
Gary

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I suspect you have Gram. scriptum rather than speciosum -- speciosum gets
HUGE fast. [Both are species and so should not be capitalized.] We have
not grown speciosum for ourselves, but did babysit a few for a friend for a
couple of months after last season's hurricanes. Plants with just 5-6
growths were 3' tall or better in 5 gallon pots.

Our scriptum are more manageable in size [6-8 growths fit nicely in an 8"
basket with a little room to grow and are perhaps 16" tall], and doing
well in 50/50 sphagnum/fir bark, with very bright light [near vanda
levels], but we are finding it necessary to give them a little extra water
compared to the Catt-tribe species in the same area such as Enc. cordigera
and Rhy. digbyana. HTH,

Kenni


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Last fall a friend of mine who grows only Cattaleyas gave me 3 of these
and when I asked how to grow them he shrugged saying beats me they where
given to me. Yeah, he knows I can't say no to a free orchid plant. All
three are planted in sphagnum. I've Googled all over the place and found
only one sight that claims to have a culture sheet but you have to be a
paid subscriber to get it. Right, pay for something sight unseen, NOT in
this lifetime.
What I did find indicates they are warm growing so I stuck them in with
the
rest of my orchids and kind of forgot about them. While doing some
repotting last month I found them with new growths looking happy but I
still don't know if I'm giving them what they need.

I figured I'd find someone at the annual orchid society auction that knew
how to grow them. Would you believe no one there grows these. The best
guess answer I got was I think you care for them the same as cymbiduims.

I must have a couple of things right because they are growing. But what
do
I need to know to make them bloom, is sphagnum the right potting mix, how
often and what do you feed them with.





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Old 15-08-2005, 10:57 PM
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Thanks Kenni
from your description I must have grammatophyllum scriptum v. citrinum as
my plants dont exceed 18 inchs in height including leaves. I did however
get the name right of the tag and is capitalized as the tag states. Mine
are in 8 inch pots and will have to go into something bigger next year as
they are really root bound and about to go over the edge.
Well I'm off to google the world with this new information.
thanks agian
Dusty

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Old 16-08-2005, 09:41 PM
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I see _lots_ of tags with errors -- capitalization, spelling, misplaced or
missing quotation marks or parentheses, etc. Or even, as in your case,
wrong name altogether.

We do our best to correct those within our control ... Kenni

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Thanks Kenni
from your description I must have grammatophyllum scriptum v. citrinum as
my plants dont exceed 18 inchs in height including leaves. I did however
get the name right of the tag and is capitalized as the tag states. Mine
are in 8 inch pots and will have to go into something bigger next year as
they are really root bound and about to go over the edge.
Well I'm off to google the world with this new information.
thanks agian
Dusty



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Old 17-08-2005, 12:03 PM
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I have a rather large collection of wrongly taged phals I bought of the out
of bloom sale table. I'm thinking that it's not the grower but people in
the store that are switching tags for whatever reasons. However the
grammatophyllums names where printed on the pots.

Grow well and bloom magnificently
dusty
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