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Scientist Caged For Smuggling Rare Plants
Monday, 16th January 2006, 10:00 Category: Crime and Punishment LIFE STYLE EXTRA (UK) - A top scientist has been jailed for smuggling more than 100 "priceless" orchids -the world's most desired flower -into Britain. Pharmaceutical researcher Dr Sian Lim, 32, was caught smuggling some of the rarest species of the beautiful, fragrant and delicate plant into Britain from his native Malaysia. The illegal trade, dubbed 'orchidelirium', threatens to destroy some species entirely. Thousands of pounds can be exchanged for each of the flowers admired for their sensuous shape and heady scent. Amongst the flowers recovered was one species that only grows in small numbers in a remote area of a national park in Sarawak in Malaysia. Six of the flowers - the most spectacular of the group - are so rare they are on the brink of extinction and can only be found on the slopes of Mount Kinabalu on the island of Borneo. Two of the flowers were only discovered in 1997 in the remote Indonesian island of Sulawesi and are believed to be extinct because of illegal collection. They are so rare that the orchid expert at Kew admitted he had never even seen one. In all 126 specimens seized from Dr Lim fall into the CITES' "Category A" which means they are banned from all trade. A renowned collector, Dr Lim grows rare orchids in two greenhouses in the garden of his home in Putney, south west London, and exhibits at international shows. He admitted 13 charges of smuggling rare orchids into Heathrow Airport, but denied doing it for commercial gain despite the thriving black market. He claimed he had been offered the plants for sale in Malaysia and that he only brought them back to Britain with him at the last moment because the climate there was too hot. But after a trial at Isleworth Crown Court, Dr Lim's claims were rejected by Judge Richard McGregor Johnson who jailed him for four months. The Judge told Lim: "I am satisfied you did bring in these orchids with a view to commercial gain. It is essential that the courts make it plain that such behaviour for gain will not be tolerated in order to discourage other who might be tempted to follow in your footsteps." He accused the doctor of having a "cavalier attitude" to the regulations and added: "I do not accept your evidence in its entirety." Orchid biologist Dr David Roberts, of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, said after the case: "Illegal trade can push some rare orchids towards extinction. "Many orchids are threatened through habitat destruction, but some, often the rarest, are also at risk from over collecting for international trade. Illegal trade is rapidly pushing those species towards extinction." Dominic Connolly, prosecuting, explained that because wild orchids are now an endangered species they are covered by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) under which most trade is banned or regulated with special permits. Mr Connolly told the court: "The international trade in orchids is a multi-million dollar industry, but the majority of this trade is in cultivated hybrid plants. "Legal trade in orchids taken directly from the wild is very limited with many countries banning their export. As a result there is an illegal trade and they are often offered for trade under the counter at orchid shows." The orchids found by customs officers in Lim's luggage at Heathrow when he flew in from Malaysia on June 2, 2004, included "some of the most sought- after orchids in the history of orchid collection - some of the most rare in the world." Rejecting Dr Lim's claims, Mr Connolly said that since June 2003 he had been issued with 399 CITES permits to import 8,980 plants - 7,932 of which were actually imported and that the purpose given on each application form was "trade." Lim had sold plants at various international orchid shows, including those in London and Newbury, acting for Creative Orchids or Orchid Inn. Mr Connolly said the number of plants imported was consistent with commercial use and not personal collection. After the plants were seized at Heathrow they were taken to Kew Gardens for inspection. Mr Connolly said: "It was immediately obvious that a significant proportion of the consignment was of wild origin for which no permits had been obtained." He said it was impossible to put a value on the illegal plants as "relevant experts have never heard of or seen this species offered for sale as mature plants." He added: "Many of these plants are essentially priceless as they are rarely offered for sale and are worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for them." Lim, who is head of research and development at Medpharm Ltd - described as a "spin-off" company from Kings College, London University - claimed that when he completed the CITES permit applications, he simply used the Malaysian export permits as a template and was unaware the "T" in the purpose box stood for "Trade." He claimed he did not trade in orchids and the fact that his name appeared on some of the show literature was because he acted for friends living in other countries. He said he was not employed by either Creative Orchids, Far East Agriculture or Orchid Inn. Lim, of Oakhill Road, Putney, said that his hobby helped to relieve stress. The international trade in orchids has grown rapidly in the past 20 years, and now involves up to a billion of the plants a year. The vast majority of that is legal and has made orchids the UK's most popular house plant. But the illegal trade continues and although small by comparison, does enormous environmental damage. The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) is also known as the 'Washington Convention' after the place where it was negotiated in 1973. The Convention is administered by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) and came into force in 1975; since then 169 countries have signed up to the Convention. Orchids are found all over the world but about 7O% are found in the tropics. There are some 25,000 species of orchids. One of the plants confiscated by Customs included P. (Paphiopedilum) rothschildianum, named after the eminent Victorian orchid grower Baron Ferdinand de Rothschild. Of all the species in the genus Paphiopedilum this is one of the rarest in nature. Despite extensive searching for over 100 years it has been located only in a small number of sites on Mount Kinabalu in Borneo, Malaysia. Another was P. sanderianum, one of the most striking of all orchids and easily recognisable by its long drooping petals which can grow to a length of more than a metre. It was first discovered in Borneo in 1885 but did not survive long in cultivation, probably due to its very specific habitat requirements. In the wild it grows on steep limestone cliffs in areas that are shaded for most of the day. It was rediscovered in 1978. It is only known from a national park in Borneo. A third was P. gigantifolium, readily identified by broad glossy green leaves which can grow up to 60cm long and 12cm wide. It grows just in river gorges in the Sulawesi, Indonesia. Only discovered in 1997, it is now thought to be extinct in its original locality due to over collecting and may be extinct in the wild. Dr Roberts added: "I was particularly concerned to see Paphiopedilum gigantifolium, an orchid I had never seen before, as this species was only described new to science in 1997." "The plants now belong to Customs. If and when they are handed over to Kew we will be in touch with the likely countries of origin to determine the future of the plants." |
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These reporters tend to overdo most of the stories. I seriously doubt many
orchids can fetch "thousands of pounds" each. Of the three species actually mentioned at the end of the article, two are available from seed in the U.S. and the line-bred plants are probably quite superior to the wild plants in flower size and ease of blooming (at least for P. rothschildianum, P. sanderianum is a little newer.) What the heck is CITES "Category A"? CITES has Appendices, not Categories, and even Appendix 1 plants are not "banned from all trade." Also I seriously doubt there are many people buying Paphiopedilums for their "heady scent." -danny |
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"Heady scent"
Every time I see a high-end advertisement showing some gorgeous model smelling a big white phalaenopsis orchid with an expression of utter rapture on her face I burst out laughing. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:21:11 -0800 in Eric Hunt wrote:
"Heady scent" Every time I see a high-end advertisement showing some gorgeous model smelling a big white phalaenopsis orchid with an expression of utter rapture on her face I burst out laughing. I'm all for a photoshoot of said sex kitten nibbling flowers off of a Tolumnia... But then again I've had to laugh at house cats finding the buds and blooms delectable... Thank goodness for sacrificial spider plants. Reka, Do you have a hurl[1] for the rag that carried the story so that the meaner and more spiteful of us can write them to let them know how incompetent their reporters are and that they are a pox on the rear of humanity? [1] As a general rule I don't read those websites, they make me want to barf. -- Chris Dukes Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil |
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Chris,
I googled it and found this URL for this story http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?s...ng_rare_plants Joanna "?" wrote in message rg... On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:21:11 -0800 in Eric Hunt wrote: "Heady scent" Every time I see a high-end advertisement showing some gorgeous model smelling a big white phalaenopsis orchid with an expression of utter rapture on her face I burst out laughing. I'm all for a photoshoot of said sex kitten nibbling flowers off of a Tolumnia... But then again I've had to laugh at house cats finding the buds and blooms delectable... Thank goodness for sacrificial spider plants. Reka, Do you have a hurl[1] for the rag that carried the story so that the meaner and more spiteful of us can write them to let them know how incompetent their reporters are and that they are a pox on the rear of humanity? [1] As a general rule I don't read those websites, they make me want to barf. -- Chris Dukes Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil |
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" ~Do you have a hurl[1] for the rag that carried the story so ~that the meaner and more spiteful of us can write them ~to let them know how incompetent their reporters are and ~that they are a pox on the rear of humanity? ~ ~[1] As a general rule I don't read those websites, they make ~me want to barf. ~ ~ What do you expect from a paper called "Life Style Extra"? Oh, they "aim to provide useful, organised, up-to-date financial and other useful information." http://www.lse.co.uk/ -- Reka This story made the National paper,Sunday Express in the UK.I have met Lim & purchased plants from him before.His father has a established orchid nursery in Malaysia,were Lim is from.These stories do get sensationalised and the courts seem to come down hard on anyone caught up.This is the first time I have heard of anyone going to jail recently for this crime in the UK. I am not justifying what Lim has done but feel the courts in the UK are hypocrites,people get let off for more serious crimes.Regarding the paph sanderianum,if this is so rare how does someone in Malaysia have 4000 of them! And as for customs & Kew- Snip After the plants were seized at Heathrow they were taken to Kew Gardens for inspection. "The plants now belong to Customs. If and when they are handed over to Kew we will be in touch with the likely countries of origin to determine the future of the plants." Yeh right we all know were they will end up!Like all the rest of the confiscated orchids in the UK. Cheers Keith PS it must be bloody tempting to smuggle plants when they grow on your door step like weeds!! |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:37:03 GMT, ?
wrote: snip Reka, Do you have a hurl[1] for the rag that carried the story so that the meaner and more spiteful of us can write them to let them know how incompetent their reporters are and that they are a pox on the rear of humanity? [1] As a general rule I don't read those websites, they make me want to barf. -- Chris Dukes Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil I hate to keep coming to this group with questions and requests for assistance, but here I go again: I've just started teaching a journalism feature writing course, and if you (or anybody else here) is planning on writing a letter complaining about the article, I'd appreciate it if you could send me a copy (or post it here). I'd love to be able to hand out a copy of this story, ask the students what they thought about it, and then show them some critiques penned by people who really know the topic. I think it would be an eye-opener for them, and it wouldn't require me stamping all over their fragile egos by slashing and burning their own work. I'll save that treat for later. g --Vic [replace final portion of my e-mail address with .ca] |
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On 18 Jan 2006 10:54:48 -0800, "jadel" wrote:
wrote: I've just started teaching a journalism feature writing course, and if you (or anybody else here) is planning on writing a letter complaining about the article, I'd appreciate it if you could send me a copy (or post it here). I'd love to be able to hand out a copy of this story, ask the students what they thought about it, and then show them some critiques penned by people who really know the topic. I think it would be an eye-opener for them, and it wouldn't require me stamping all over their fragile egos by slashing and burning their own work. Never mind their precious egos; it's your job.. People with fragile egos don't belong among the cadre of ink-stained wretches. Make the students do the research. That's what they'll have to do in the real world. Let them critique each other, and then you critique them. If they snivel, too bad. J. Del Col (erstwhile journalism teacher) Don't worry, I plan on making them miserable, and on being as tough on them as I would be on any professional reporter whose story I'm required to edit. I just thought it would be helpful to show them that: a) so-called professionals make mistakes and that as a result b) people who are actually experts on a topic ridicule those mistakes, even if they don't always send in letters to the editor to complain about the sloppy reporting. This is my first time teaching, so I'm still in the process of rounding up good teaching examples, which is why I thought I would post this request. I know what I want to accomplish with the class, and I have some idea about how to get there -- lots of small writing exercises, plenty of self and group critique, fact-checking each other's work, fact-checking their work myself, required drafts and re-writes, and a nice, tight schedule of assignments -- but I'm also willing to admit that I'm learning on the job, and I'll take help from whatever sources I can find. And to get this back on topic, my phal is blooming again. --Vic |
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If this is Smuggling 201, is there going to be an essay test or is going to
be true and false? Can I just audit this coarse? The first half of this article gave me the impression the author was writing fluff. In the second part, he named and quoted sources and left me with the general impression he only had a superficial understanding of his topic but I was left with my opinions intact. Why did Dr Lim go to jail? In my opinion, the answer is, he went to jail because he wanted to own plants in Britain that he could not legally own in that country at the time he brought them across the border. He purchased the plants from local markets in Malaysia. He knew he was breaking import/export laws. He stated to the judge that his reason for bringing them back was to protect them, not to profit from them. Why can't profit be the motive to protect them? Had he not purchased them, he rationalized, they would have died in their own country; killed by Malaysians who collected them from the wild to sell them. But, why did the people of Malaysia collect to the point of extinction their precious native plants, if not to sell to them to people just like Dr Lim? CITES suggests that the governments own the plants in their borders and decide their fate. There are problems with this idea and with the treaty and it's enforcement. Some say orchid collectors ARE part of the problem. Some say they could be part of the solution but CITES prevents them from getting the plants to reproduce them in sufficient quantity to satisfy demand of collectors. Smuggling is smuggling. |
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PS. I mean "suggest" in a vague way. I mean "own" in a vague way. I meant
this sentence to contrast with another sentence about some of the Malaysian people being party to the collection and sale. I wonder if the Malaysian government has laws against collecting and selling native plants and how they enforce those laws if they exist. How do plants not allowed to leave Malaysia get all the way to the British border before somebody stops them? Why is always reported that it is at the border of the foreign country that these plants are caught and the carrier arrested? Why don't we see articles about how local vendors are caught with plants and how the plants are taken back to the hillside they were stripped from? I know the US has laws against the collection, ownership and sale of native species. How many Americans own native orchids? Or make them a central part of their orchid collections? How many foreigners have our native orchids in their collections? I believe buying native American orchids here in this country is rather hard. Everyone is concerned that they are not wild collected. Yet there are a few vendors of native orchids and their catalogs are pretty sparse compared with the number of native orchids I know of. Why look outside your own borders for 'treasures"? Al" wrote in message ... CITES suggests that the governments own the plants in their borders and decide their fate. |
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Why don't we see articles about how local vendors are caught with plants
and how the plants are taken back to the hillside they were stripped from? Hear, hear. Redundant question, though, Al, since you already know the answer. Um, why aren't illegal aliens (not from your planet, of course, which is a friendly planet and only wishes to study earthlings) stopped on their own side of the border?? Asbestos suit back from the cleaners. Donning it now. Diana |
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Eric,
Yeah, but ya gotta' love her nice pods in those glossy pictures... errrr, capsules. Mick ================== "Eric Hunt" wrote in message ... "Heady scent" Every time I see a high-end advertisement showing some gorgeous model smelling a big white phalaenopsis orchid with an expression of utter rapture on her face I burst out laughing. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org |
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C'mon Mick. It IS "awards show" time.
"Golden Globes" -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info! "Mick Fournier" wrote in message ... Eric, Yeah, but ya gotta' love her nice pods in those glossy pictures... errrr, capsules. Mick ================== "Eric Hunt" wrote in message ... "Heady scent" Every time I see a high-end advertisement showing some gorgeous model smelling a big white phalaenopsis orchid with an expression of utter rapture on her face I burst out laughing. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org |
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Al wrote:
I know the US has laws against the collection, ownership and sale of native species. How many Americans own native orchids? Or make them a central part of their orchid collections? How many foreigners have our native orchids in their collections? I believe buying native American orchids here in this country is rather hard. Everyone is concerned that they are not wild collected. Yet there are a few vendors of native orchids and their catalogs are pretty sparse compared with the number of native orchids I know of. Why look outside your own borders for 'treasures"? Be careful of comparing apples with oranges. The majority of orchid growers cultivate tropical species, and the majority of North American orchids are hardy species. Of the tropical species native to the U.S. (mostly in Florida), the more spectacular species have indeed been over-collected and require protection. Reading a field guide to Florida orchids is rather depressing in that respect -- even more so when you consider that most of the over-collected species are already available in cultivation. Some of the less spectacular orchids are still fairly common, but the number of growers who would want to devote a greenhouse to things like Epidendrum magnoliae is smaller than the number who want to grow Cattleya hybrids. Therefore, fewer nurseries sell Epi magnoliae. With regard to the hardy North American species, I do not think they are under-represented in cultivation relative to hardy species from Europe and Asia. North American Cypripediums are more readily available that Asian Cyps. The smaller woodland orchids are less common in cultivation, but North American, European, and Asian species seem to be available in cultivation in roughly equal proportions. Some North American species (e.g. Spiranthes odorata) are readily available in general garden centers. AFAIK, federal laws cover only endangered species. Individual states may have laws forbidding collection on public land, but most permit collection on private land _with the permission of the landowner_. I don't know of any laws that forbid the ownership of all native species; I "own" a number of native orchids by default, because they are wild in my backyard. My state (NC) does regulate the private ownership of a very few species that are endangered within the state, but permits are available (at no cost, I think). States may forbid selling collected plants, but they don't seem to limit the sale of artificially propagated native species. For instance, it is very easy to find artificially propagated Encyclia tampensis for sale. Collecting E. tampensis from areas being developed may be fun, but since E. tampensis is well established in cultivation, it is of limited conservation value. The state of Florida may have determined that allowing the salvage and sale of such plants could make it more difficult to detect real poachers. regards, Nick |
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That was informative.
As I was typing I was aware of the apples and oranges comparison. The tropical natives didn't even come to mind, however. While I am shopping for plants in Malasiaian markets and I come across mature plants of Paphiopedilum gigantifolium known only to grow in river gorges in the Sulawesi, Indonesia (a different country but a shared common island) and only recently described in 1997 what should I do? This plant, BTW, is (or was) being listed as available from flask in one US nursery online catalog, along with CITES permits if requested. wrote in message oups.com... Al wrote: I know the US has laws against the collection, ownership and sale of native species. How many Americans own native orchids? Or make them a central part of their orchid collections? How many foreigners have our native orchids in their collections? I believe buying native American orchids here in this country is rather hard. Everyone is concerned that they are not wild collected. Yet there are a few vendors of native orchids and their catalogs are pretty sparse compared with the number of native orchids I know of. Why look outside your own borders for 'treasures"? Be careful of comparing apples with oranges. The majority of orchid growers cultivate tropical species, and the majority of North American orchids are hardy species. Of the tropical species native to the U.S. (mostly in Florida), the more spectacular species have indeed been over-collected and require protection. Reading a field guide to Florida orchids is rather depressing in that respect -- even more so when you consider that most of the over-collected species are already available in cultivation. Some of the less spectacular orchids are still fairly common, but the number of growers who would want to devote a greenhouse to things like Epidendrum magnoliae is smaller than the number who want to grow Cattleya hybrids. Therefore, fewer nurseries sell Epi magnoliae. With regard to the hardy North American species, I do not think they are under-represented in cultivation relative to hardy species from Europe and Asia. North American Cypripediums are more readily available that Asian Cyps. The smaller woodland orchids are less common in cultivation, but North American, European, and Asian species seem to be available in cultivation in roughly equal proportions. Some North American species (e.g. Spiranthes odorata) are readily available in general garden centers. AFAIK, federal laws cover only endangered species. Individual states may have laws forbidding collection on public land, but most permit collection on private land _with the permission of the landowner_. I don't know of any laws that forbid the ownership of all native species; I "own" a number of native orchids by default, because they are wild in my backyard. My state (NC) does regulate the private ownership of a very few species that are endangered within the state, but permits are available (at no cost, I think). States may forbid selling collected plants, but they don't seem to limit the sale of artificially propagated native species. For instance, it is very easy to find artificially propagated Encyclia tampensis for sale. Collecting E. tampensis from areas being developed may be fun, but since E. tampensis is well established in cultivation, it is of limited conservation value. The state of Florida may have determined that allowing the salvage and sale of such plants could make it more difficult to detect real poachers. regards, Nick |
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:27:44 -0500, "Ray"
wrote: C'mon Mick. It IS "awards show" time. "Golden Globes" Now I don't know who won the 'outrageous' contest. Ray it is not nice to challenge Mick. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php |
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Al wrote:
While I am shopping for plants in Malasiaian markets and I come across mature plants of Paphiopedilum gigantifolium known only to grow in river gorges in the Sulawesi, Indonesia (a different country but a shared common island) and only recently described in 1997 what should I do? This plant, BTW, is (or was) being listed as available from flask in one US nursery online catalog, along with CITES permits if requested. In my opinion? That's an easy one. Go home and buy a flask or seedling from that nursery, if you are inclined to grow the species. Since the flasks are already available, buying the plant in the market can't be justified on the grounds of conservation. If you buy the plant, you encourage the merchant to buy more collected plants. That encourages the smugglers to rip more out of the wild in Sulawesi. Even if that particular plant ends up as compost, you do less harm by refusing to buy it. If the plant were legally collected in a sustainable manner, the ethical calculus would be somewhat different. I'm thinking of that guy in "Orchid Fever" who collects Cyps in Minnesota. There, you would have to decide whether you agreed with the collectors or with the people who want to replant the cyps in the wild, but ethical people could probably come down on either side of the question. That doesn't seem to be happening with the tropical slippers, though. |
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Awww Mommy,
Ray is always leading me into trouble and mind-melding outrageous thoughts down my way into Florida. He should get the spanking... not me. But just in case I do get to pick... well then yes, I would like some golden globes over the pods. Mick ========================== "Susan Erickson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:27:44 -0500, "Ray" wrote: C'mon Mick. It IS "awards show" time. "Golden Globes" Now I don't know who won the 'outrageous' contest. Ray it is not nice to challenge Mick. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php |
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