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Reka 19-04-2006 09:24 PM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
....and it's late. If I want to soak my orchids in Physan 20 solution and
need 2 tsp. of 20% Physan per gallon of water,how many tsp. do I need of
50% Physan for 5 liters? (I can get 50% benzalkonium chloride here which
should be relatively similar, if not equal, to Physan -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride)

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Jack 19-04-2006 10:44 PM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 

Reka wrote:
...and it's late. If I want to soak my orchids in Physan 20 solution and
need 2 tsp. of 20% Physan per gallon of water,how many tsp. do I need of
50% Physan for 5 liters?


converting 1 ga into 3.8L gives you a concentration of 10ml to 3.8l or
..5262ml 100% physan to 1L, time that by five, devide it by .5 (solution
precentage) you get 5.2631ml

or a hefty teaspoon of the 50% stuff

Yep I'm board

Jack


Reka 20-04-2006 06:29 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
In article . com,
says...
~
~Reka wrote:
~ ...and it's late. If I want to soak my orchids in Physan 20 solution and
~ need 2 tsp. of 20% Physan per gallon of water,how many tsp. do I need of
~ 50% Physan for 5 liters?
~
~converting 1 ga into 3.8L gives you a concentration of 10ml to 3.8l or
~.5262ml 100% physan to 1L, time that by five, devide it by .5 (solution
~precentage) you get 5.2631ml
~
~or a hefty teaspoon of the 50% stuff
~
~Yep I'm board
~
~Jack
~
~
But does that take into consideration that Physan is 20% while my solution
is 50%?
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Jack 20-04-2006 07:05 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
yes


Jack 20-04-2006 07:06 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
yes
but not for the chemical difference


Dave Gillingham 20-04-2006 11:30 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
Forgive me for being picky, but were those US or imperial gallons?

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:24:25 +0200, Reka wrote:

...and it's late. If I want to soak my orchids in Physan 20 solution and
need 2 tsp. of 20% Physan per gallon of water,how many tsp. do I need of
50% Physan for 5 liters? (I can get 50% benzalkonium chloride here which
should be relatively similar, if not equal, to Physan -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride)

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Reka 20-04-2006 03:53 PM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
In article ,
says...
~Forgive me for being picky, but were those US or imperial gallons?
~
~On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:24:25 +0200, Reka wrote:
~
~...and it's late. If I want to soak my orchids in Physan 20 solution and
~need 2 tsp. of 20% Physan per gallon of water,how many tsp. do I need of
~50% Physan for 5 liters? (I can get 50% benzalkonium chloride here which
~should be relatively similar, if not equal, to Physan -
~
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride)
~
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~Dave Gillingham
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~To email me remove the .private from my email address.
~
Hey, Dave! Welcome back!

US gallons, of course! Are there any other gallons? grin ;-)
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Reka 20-04-2006 03:54 PM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
In article .com,
says...
~yes
~but not for the chemical difference
~
~
What do you mean about the chemical difference?
I need to know how much 50% Physan to substitute for 20% Physan, and
convert from Gallons to liters...
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Jack 20-04-2006 06:55 PM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
I use benzalkonium chloride at work (disinfecting handwash gel, the
alternitive to alcohol) there are different parts of the mix of
compounds in physan that work on different organisms, what I mean is
that it should work, but maybe better for bacteria than algea ( will a
mircobiologist or organic chemist jump in here :)

If you read the techinical data it should explain the mechinism of
action, which should go into what it is approved for use on and what
it has been tested on....

I do know that it will make pennies very shinny but then prone to
corrosion later.

Jack


Ray 21-04-2006 02:33 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
1) Use 2/5 of the amount of 50% to equal the 20% stuff.

2) 3.8 liters per gallon is good enough.

3) One teaspoon is about 5 ml

Therefore, if 1 teaspoon of 20% per gallon is your target, then you use 2 ml
/ 3.8 l = about 1/2 ml/liter of the 50% stuff.

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Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!


"Reka" wrote in message
.. .
In article .com,
says...
~yes
~but not for the chemical difference
~
~
What do you mean about the chemical difference?
I need to know how much 50% Physan to substitute for 20% Physan, and
convert from Gallons to liters...
--
--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html




Reka 21-04-2006 06:10 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
In article ,
says...
~1) Use 2/5 of the amount of 50% to equal the 20% stuff.
~
~2) 3.8 liters per gallon is good enough.
~
~3) One teaspoon is about 5 ml
~
~Therefore, if 1 teaspoon of 20% per gallon is your target, then you use 2 ml
~/ 3.8 l = about 1/2 ml/liter of the 50% stuff.
~
~
Okay, so we are talking about 2tsp./gallon 20%, 1 tsp./5 liters 50%.

Do you guys use less than 2 tsp. gallon?
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Ray 21-04-2006 10:48 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
I use one tsp/gal.

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Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!


"Reka" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
~1) Use 2/5 of the amount of 50% to equal the 20% stuff.
~
~2) 3.8 liters per gallon is good enough.
~
~3) One teaspoon is about 5 ml
~
~Therefore, if 1 teaspoon of 20% per gallon is your target, then you use 2
ml
~/ 3.8 l = about 1/2 ml/liter of the 50% stuff.
~
~
Okay, so we are talking about 2tsp./gallon 20%, 1 tsp./5 liters 50%.

Do you guys use less than 2 tsp. gallon?
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--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
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Dave Gillingham 21-04-2006 11:18 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:53:35 +0200, Reka wrote:

In article ,
says...
~Forgive me for being picky, but were those US or imperial gallons?
~
~On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:24:25 +0200, Reka wrote:
~
~...and it's late. If I want to soak my orchids in Physan 20 solution and
~need 2 tsp. of 20% Physan per gallon of water,how many tsp. do I need of
~50% Physan for 5 liters? (I can get 50% benzalkonium chloride here which
~should be relatively similar, if not equal, to Physan -
~http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride)
~
~--
~Dave Gillingham


Hey, Dave! Welcome back!

US gallons, of course! Are there any other gallons? grin ;-)
--

Thanks for the welcome. I note your absence from postings for a week or so. Did
you go away for your Spring break?

A few pilots have found, to their sad cost, that US gallons are smaller than
imperial ones. I guess that just goes to show one should read the manual *very*
carefully.
Dave Gillingham
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wendy7 21-04-2006 05:27 PM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
Reka, I use a little less than a teaspoon in the 1 quart spray bottle. I
have never dipped & soaked the entire plant. I have a couple of plants
that I am going to experiment on.
I browsed through this webpage & noticed that just for the different types
of orchids they call for different measures? Quite an in depth site.
http://www.physan.com/index.html
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Cheers Wendy

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Reka wrote:
In article ,
says...
~1) Use 2/5 of the amount of 50% to equal the 20% stuff.
~
~2) 3.8 liters per gallon is good enough.
~
~3) One teaspoon is about 5 ml
~
~Therefore, if 1 teaspoon of 20% per gallon is your target, then you
use 2 ml ~/ 3.8 l = about 1/2 ml/liter of the 50% stuff.
~
~
Okay, so we are talking about 2tsp./gallon 20%, 1 tsp./5 liters 50%.

Do you guys use less than 2 tsp. gallon?
--




Jack 22-04-2006 05:13 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
well you won't kill them, if it works it works and if not, hope you got
some physan (ps anybody know where I can get some shipped to alaska)

If it does work let us know.

Jack


J Fortuna 22-04-2006 09:48 AM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
one way of finding out where to buy it

1. Go to http://www.physan.com/
2. Choose "How to purchase" from left side menu
3. A "STATE-BY-STATE" listing of suppliers shows up
4. If you click Alaska, the resulting distributors are not in Alaska, but
will ship there
5. Select one that is not marked as Wholesale Only

other (and probably cheaper) options include:

http://www.lsorchids.com/store/cart....FTtLGgodiSR_PQ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=...eywords=physan

http://www.77hydrostore.com/77hydro-...ysan208oz.html

http://www.gardeningsupplywarehouse....products_id=50

When comparing prices, be sure to consider different shipping and handling
costs.

Best,
Joanna

"Jack" wrote in message
oups.com...
well you won't kill them, if it works it works and if not, hope you got
some physan (ps anybody know where I can get some shipped to alaska)

If it does work let us know.

Jack





Reka 26-04-2006 12:31 PM

Ok, so I'm lazy tonight...
 
[This followup was posted to rec.gardens.orchids and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]

In article ,
says...
~On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:53:35 +0200, Reka wrote:
~
~In article ,
says...
~~Forgive me for being picky, but were those US or imperial gallons?
~~
~~On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:24:25 +0200, Reka wrote:
~~
~~...and it's late. If I want to soak my orchids in Physan 20 solution and
~~need 2 tsp. of 20% Physan per gallon of water,how many tsp. do I need of
~~50% Physan for 5 liters? (I can get 50% benzalkonium chloride here which
~~should be relatively similar, if not equal, to Physan -
~~
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride)
~~
~~--
~~Dave Gillingham
~
~Hey, Dave! Welcome back!
~
~US gallons, of course! Are there any other gallons? grin ;-)
~--
~Thanks for the welcome. I note your absence from postings for a week or so. Did
~you go away for your Spring break?
No, up until you posted this, I was just plain busy. Then I went away for
a break! :-)
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Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html


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