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2006 NYC Orchid Show
Hi All,
I went to the NYC Orchid Show at Rockerfeller today. The orchids on display were beautiful. I was so disappointed when I bought three phals from Orchis Floricluturing Inc. all the roots on those plants were rotted. I can also guarantee that the rest of their plants are bad. Is there anything I can do about this or somewhere I can go to complain about this besides here. I am so disappointed, I waited so long for this show thinking I can get some good orchids. |
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Its Sunday, go back and complain to the vendor. (I wonder if they'd let
you in again....??)(What am I saying, its New York, nothing's free!) K Barrett "Lisa" wrote in message oups.com... Hi All, I went to the NYC Orchid Show at Rockerfeller today. The orchids on display were beautiful. I was so disappointed when I bought three phals from Orchis Floricluturing Inc. all the roots on those plants were rotted. I can also guarantee that the rest of their plants are bad. Is there anything I can do about this or somewhere I can go to complain about this besides here. I am so disappointed, I waited so long for this show thinking I can get some good orchids. |
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I have the same problem in that at least half the plants I have bought
were bad under the hood. Guess we will just have to look first. Hard to do by mail and who wants the hassel to send them back, just a big rip off. Joe T |
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Kathy's suggestion is the obvious best path, but if yu can't get back there,
where is this outfit located? I'd be complaining until I was blue in the face and had a refund check in my hand. You have to do this right away, though. Tip: Next time, poke around in the pot a little bit and check the roots. Kathy, is OGRES functional these days? Diana |
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I will try emailing them. It's hard for me to get out to NY again. I
have three little girls and I didn't want to drag them out to NY since I leave in NJ. |
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I am well aware that there are some unscrupulous folks out there selling
garbage orchids. Why they keep being invited back to OS-hosted shows is beyond me, but it happens regularly. Nevertheless ... Speaking as a grower, I would very much appreciate it if people would ASK before doing something that might render one of my plants unsaleable till the next time it blooms, or otherwise damage it -- e.g., handling flowers; peeling old sheaths or bract material and perhaps breaking off a pb or new growth in the process; digging around in the media, which can cause the flowers to wilt prematurely; stuff like that. Diana's comment about reporting problems as soon as possible is also very important. Once a plant is out of the grower's care, the grower has no way to know what the purchaser might have done to the plant -- and the folks who post here truly would NOT believe some of the things people do to them. So the faster you get back to the grower with your complaint, the better your claim for a refund or replacement. Kenni "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ... Kathy's suggestion is the obvious best path, but if yu can't get back there, where is this outfit located? I'd be complaining until I was blue in the face and had a refund check in my hand. You have to do this right away, though. Tip: Next time, poke around in the pot a little bit and check the roots. Kathy, is OGRES functional these days? Diana |
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Kenni Judd wrote: I am well aware that there are some unscrupulous folks out there selling garbage orchids. Why they keep being invited back to OS-hosted shows is beyond me, but it happens regularly. Nevertheless ... Speaking as a grower, I would very much appreciate it if people would ASK before doing something that might render one of my plants unsaleable till the next time it blooms, or otherwise damage it -- e.g., handling flowers; peeling old sheaths or bract material and perhaps breaking off a pb or new growth in the process; digging around in the media, which can cause the flowers to wilt prematurely; stuff like that. Diana's comment about reporting problems as soon as possible is also very important. Once a plant is out of the grower's care, the grower has no way to know what the purchaser might have done to the plant -- and the folks who post here truly would NOT believe some of the things people do to them. So the faster you get back to the grower with your complaint, the better your claim for a refund or replacement. Kenni "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ... Kathy's suggestion is the obvious best path, but if yu can't get back there, where is this outfit located? I'd be complaining until I was blue in the face and had a refund check in my hand. You have to do this right away, though. Tip: Next time, poke around in the pot a little bit and check the roots. Kathy, is OGRES functional these days? Diana I am afraid you are too late. Orchis Floriculturing is a China- based company-- they are back in China by now. I agree with Kenni's comments 100%. I just had a person bring back a plant she got less than a month ago-- The entire plant was white!! That can only happen by putting it in a car, in the sun and leaving it for enough time for the sun to heat the inside of the car to 120 degrees. The person swore she didn't but plants don't turn white {I mean every part of the plant}. I gave her another because that's what we do-- call me stupid but that's our policy. It doesn't happen often enough to worry about as most people are honest. Sorry I can't say the same for vendors-- well most are honest but like Kenni said some are garbage vendors & will deliberately bring stuff to "get rid of" & the societies just keep inviting them back-- because they also undercut the decent vendors price wise. I have learned to be very careful to ask about "return policy" & people from another country better have a sterling reputation or-- I pass them by. The lessons we learn the "hard way" are the ones we don't forget easily. Good Luck Bill |
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By the way Lisa, Their website is: www.orchis.com/tw if you go there
you can find telephone #s and can email them from their site {cheaper} They are located in Taiwon, Republic of China. Good Luck, Bill |
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Buy local!
Had a lady come back to me almost in tears on Saturday, about 30 minutes after she purchased a very nice phal. She had snapped the spike (dropped the plant somehow), and wanted to know if I could 'fix it'. Grafting, maybe? Anyway, I replaced the plant with the next nicest phal. I also think most people are honest. And I prefer to not to think otherwise. I've replaced plants up to a year after selling them, if I thought it was my fault that they didn't thrive. Especially for novice growers. If the story is "I bought a plant from you at this show last year, but it died a couple weeks later", I've been known to give an inexpensive replacement to practice on. I suspect most people don't report problems, but I'd really prefer that they did. I am afraid you are too late. Orchis Floriculturing is a China- based company-- they are back in China by now. I agree with Kenni's comments 100%. I just had a person bring back a plant she got less than a month ago-- The entire plant was white!! That can only happen by putting it in a car, in the sun and leaving it for enough time for the sun to heat the inside of the car to 120 degrees. The person swore she didn't but plants don't turn white {I mean every part of the plant}. I gave her another because that's what we do-- call me stupid but that's our policy. It doesn't happen often enough to worry about as most people are honest. Sorry I can't say the same for vendors-- well most are honest but like Kenni said some are garbage vendors & will deliberately bring stuff to "get rid of" & the societies just keep inviting them back-- because they also undercut the decent vendors price wise. I have learned to be very careful to ask about "return policy" & people from another country better have a sterling reputation or-- I pass them by. The lessons we learn the "hard way" are the ones we don't forget easily. Good Luck Bill -- Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a) See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more orchids, obtain more credit |
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Thank you all for your comments. I kind of knew there was nothing I
can do. Even if I went back to the show they might have done anything. I would be just wasting my precious time away from my girls or would be dragging them out in the rain. I was just so disappointed at that moment. I have learnt my lesson. It would have been cheaper and faster to just buy from HomeDepot. I understand if one plant was like that but all of them. That was just too much. I bag them all up in plastic bags, hopefully they will survive and get new roots. Thank you all again. |
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Hi Lisa,
If you had wanted an established plant, there were many US vendors selling great plants at reasonable prices. That is not what you bought. You bought some of the best and newest clones fresh out of Taiwan. You know the clones are true because you bought them in bloom. Imported plants do not come with established root systems, to pass ag inspection they must be ripped out of their mix and sent bare root or wrapped in fresh moss. I have much better luck importing plants bare root, but a bare rooted plant would not last four days in the Roc. Now that you have the plants you will need to graduate to advance orchid growing to get them reestablished. Break down the flower spike, it will be a year or two before you see the plant blooming again. Remove the plants from their 'pots' and remove the moss that was used to wrap the roots. Throw both away. Run your fingers down the roots and remove any soft tissue. I do not remove the firm, but broken roots because I think they help anchor the plant until the new roots get started. Assume all the roots are going to die and select the new pot accordingly, I reported mine into 3" pots which were even smaller than the 'pot' they arrived in. I will grow the new plants in the seedling section for at least six months treating it like it was a plant just out of flask. I loss 25 to 50 percent. As the plant get established it is going to tap the leaves for energy and you are going to loss a couple. Plant I bought from 'Jane' last year are now either dead or establish with four leaves, two weak looking things that came with the plant and two fresh healthy ones that have grown over the last year. They are blooming with a couple of flowers. Next year they should be great looking plants. When Orchis has a clone I really want, I buy three. This year I bought one 'Red Cat', I only wanted the pollen, if the plant lives great. Next year you might consider attending my wife's lecture on Friday. She spends a lot of time talking about what needs to be considered to be a wise orchid consumer. Good luck with the plants, if you can keep them alive, you will have some of the coolest and most unique plants around. Pat "Lisa" wrote in message oups.com... Thank you all for your comments. I kind of knew there was nothing I can do. Even if I went back to the show they might have done anything. I would be just wasting my precious time away from my girls or would be dragging them out in the rain. I was just so disappointed at that moment. I have learnt my lesson. It would have been cheaper and faster to just buy from HomeDepot. I understand if one plant was like that but all of them. That was just too much. I bag them all up in plastic bags, hopefully they will survive and get new roots. Thank you all again. |
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A lot of straight talk in this thread. It helps me today, makes me a
better buyer. It has helped me in the recent past with less than hoped for plants. I have bought a dozen this year and all are still alive and growing new roots and pbulbs, about half came with bad roots. Even a Oncidium and a Epiphyllum that I have had for more than five years are growing like mad. I am still changing pots, water, light, everything trying to get it right, I think newbies must all go through this. I have pretty much quit buying plants off tailgates (some tailgates are dressed up to look real professional). Joe T |
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