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so any of you who still get "orchids" mag from the AOS--has there been
any mention of a change in membership numbers since they jacked up the dues? i'm one of the ones who said "no thanks" to the nearly 30% increase, so i haven't been getting the magazine. i was just wondering if anyone knew what effect the rate increase was having... TIA... ---j_a, who plans on asking for a membership for xmas, so my siblings can split the fee. :) |
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I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something
they would want to publish. -danny "unknown" wrote in message ... so any of you who still get "orchids" mag from the AOS--has there been any mention of a change in membership numbers since they jacked up the dues? i'm one of the ones who said "no thanks" to the nearly 30% increase, so i haven't been getting the magazine. i was just wondering if anyone knew what effect the rate increase was having... TIA... ---j_a, who plans on asking for a membership for xmas, so my siblings can split the fee. :) |
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Are magazines still required to put their circulation numbers in that information page near the beginning? I'm sure there's room to fudge the numbers a little but it could give a rough idea if they still do that. Steve danny wrote: I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something they would want to publish. -danny "unknown" wrote in message ... so any of you who still get "orchids" mag from the AOS--has there been any mention of a change in membership numbers since they jacked up the dues? i'm one of the ones who said "no thanks" to the nearly 30% increase, so i haven't been getting the magazine. i was just wondering if anyone knew what effect the rate increase was having... TIA... ---j_a, who plans on asking for a membership for xmas, so my siblings can split the fee. :) |
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Steve wrote: Are magazines still required to put their circulation numbers in that information page near the beginning? I'm sure there's room to fudge the numbers a little but it could give a rough idea if they still do that. Steve -pondering- i suppose an argument could be made that that's a not a magazine of general circulation, but a "society newsletter" so the requirement may not apply. --j_a |
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I agree with j_a. The current (July) issue of Orchids does not list
circulation numbers. I don't know whether there is a requirement for some publications, but if there is, certainly a publication that is not offered at news stands, etc., would be exempt. Having said that, it would be interesting to know the answer to the original question. I'm going to contact our AOS rep. I do support AOS, in any event. I know that in the past there has been a big disconnect between the hierarchy and the general membership, but I see some big changes in outreach. Of course, I am in FL and close to the action, so perhaps I see it more than others who are farther removed. Diana |
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Danny,
I've heard through the grapevine that the membership is in "free fall." That's just the grapevine, though. I didn't renew at $60. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org "danny" wrote in message ... I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something they would want to publish. -danny |
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I am not trying to K-nock the AOS. I like the AOS, I have been getting that
"Bulletin" (Now called "Orchids") since the 1980s, however.... http://www.orchidweb.org/aos/orchids/osd-listing.aspx The grower/vendor listing above on the AOS website is an interesting case to help answer your question They list vendors by state for the USA. When I first bought my listing for Virginia it was $50 for *two* years. Then it jumped to $100 for *two* years. This renewal period, for just *one* year (July 2006 through July 2007) it cost $100. So the price doubled from last time. And last month, at the end of the last two year period there were about 7 to 9 vendors listed in Virginia. Today I found one. I had called to ask if the one year change was a misprint and was told it was not and the lady from the AOS told me they felt it was a good deal because of the exposure they could provide my business. What makes me chuckle is that they don't seem to know they can easily count how many visitors to their site find a specific link and click on it. They should know what kind of deal it is and be able to provide their potential advertisers with real data. I can do this in reverse: I know where people find the link that brings them to my site. I have a site statistic program on my site that tracks this kind of info. In the last two years click-throughs from the AOS averaged less than 1.5 clicks a week. and I could not spend $1.28 a click for this amount of exposure next year. In contrast, the orchidmall.com averages about 25 to 30 a week and Google's various IP addresses account for closer to 125 to 150 a week.....and these are free. For the $100 I would also get my business name printed in their Source directory which they send out to members. I searched for mine last month and could not find, of course it was two years old at that point and long buried under piles of stuff in the 'library'. Then I asked a couple of friends to look something up for me and only one person could find their copy. I think that about says it all. The AOS marketing committee should KNOW this and price the advertising accordingly. But if there is a corresponding loss to membership over the rise in dues, the AOS is in real trouble. If you were allowed to say things like this on the AOS forum without getting booted off, maybe they would know it. "Eric Hunt" wrote in message ... Danny, I've heard through the grapevine that the membership is in "free fall." That's just the grapevine, though. I didn't renew at $60. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org "danny" wrote in message ... I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something they would want to publish. -danny |
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Al wrote: If you were allowed to say things like this on the AOS forum without getting booted off, maybe they would know it. well it would just be good business practice for AOS to lurk on these other groups/boards; it's not like there are so many active orchid groups out there that it would take more than an hour a week to cruise them. thx for the responses all; i'd hate to see the AOS run itself into the ground over something like this. --j_a |
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unknown wrote: In article , Steve wrote: Are magazines still required to put their circulation numbers in that information page near the beginning? I'm sure there's room to fudge the numbers a little but it could give a rough idea if they still do that. Steve -pondering- i suppose an argument could be made that that's a not a magazine of general circulation, but a "society newsletter" so the requirement may not apply. I think the requirement applies to any publication that wants to qualify for second class mail rates, --a lot cheaper than first class--, IIRC. J. Del Col |
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Diana Kulaga wrote: I agree with j_a. The current (July) issue of Orchids does not list circulation numbers. I don't know whether there is a requirement for some publications, but if there is, certainly a publication that is not offered at news stands, etc., would be exempt. Update to my first reply. --Any-- periodical published at least four times a year and sent via USPS can get a Second-Class Mail Permit and save a bundle on postage. AOS wouldn't want to be "exempt." I believe that the statement of ownership and circulation need be published maybe once or twice a year. J. Del Col |
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Diana Kulaga wrote: I agree with j_a. The current (July) issue of Orchids does not list circulation numbers. I don't know whether there is a requirement for some publications, but if there is, certainly a publication that is not offered at news stands, etc., would be exempt. Further update: What used to be called Second Class Mail is now simply called Periodical Mail. Again. AOS wouldn't want to be exempt, unless it wants to pay first class rates. J. Del Col |
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Although I am Australian, it is my understanding that the USP requires an
annual statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation be published in the end of year issue of each subscriber publication. This information appears in minute print in each December issue of Orchid. Average total distribution per issue during preceding 12 months (including free copies) of Orchid: 2004 = 24312 2005 = 22574 So in one year the distribution has fallen by 1738 (about 7%) and this is before the increase in price. Cheers John "Steve" wrote in message ... Are magazines still required to put their circulation numbers in that information page near the beginning? I'm sure there's room to fudge the numbers a little but it could give a rough idea if they still do that. Steve danny wrote: I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something they would want to publish. -danny "unknown" wrote in message ... so any of you who still get "orchids" mag from the AOS--has there been any mention of a change in membership numbers since they jacked up the dues? i'm one of the ones who said "no thanks" to the nearly 30% increase, so i haven't been getting the magazine. i was just wondering if anyone knew what effect the rate increase was having... TIA... ---j_a, who plans on asking for a membership for xmas, so my siblings can split the fee. :) |
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Al wrote:
I am not trying to K-nock the AOS. I like the AOS, I have been getting that "Bulletin" (Now called "Orchids") since the 1980s, however.... http://www.orchidweb.org/aos/orchids/osd-listing.aspx The grower/vendor listing above on the AOS website is an interesting case to help answer your question They list vendors by state for the USA. When I first bought my listing for Virginia it was $50 for *two* years. Then it jumped to $100 for *two* years. This renewal period, for just *one* year (July 2006 through July 2007) it cost $100. So the price doubled from last time. In the early 90s, the primary appeal of the AOS bulletin was the advertisements. Now, the ads are almost completely irrelevant to me; if I want a specific plant, I google it. If I want to browse multiple nurseries, I head over to orchidmall.com. Consequently, it is the actual content of the magazine that is more important to me now. I find more to interest me in the Orchid Digest, so there's no point in renewing the AOS Bulletin. I don't submit orchids for judging, so from a purely selfish point of view, AOS membership really isn't of any benefit to me any more. For the cost of 12 issues, I can buy a really nice hardback book or a basket full of seedlings. Nick |
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Nick,
You make a great point about how the internet has impacted this hobby in general. 10 years ago the only way to find a plant was to look for an ad in the magazine or telephone a grower and ask if they had something special in their collection. Today we just get online and read the online ad (webpage). If we find what we want we can email or order it online and never have to talk to another person. The other way the internet has really impacted the hobby involves how we buy plants in general. I still love to roam around a greenhouse and pick the best plant. Ask Al how much time I can spend just roaming around and comparing one plant to another. But many time I can go through the Oak Hill website and pick hundred dollars of plants that I want and with a couple of keystrokes have them at my home in 3 days. 10 years ago we would have to use a catalog, write a check, put a stamp on the envelope, walk to the mail box.....ahhh technology! I don't have any statistics but I know I haven't bought an orchid book in many years. All the information I need is available with a quick google. Pictures are here online. Care instructions are often more complete online. I still subscribe to the Orchids magazine as well as IPA and ODC but am reaching the point where I am wondering if it's worth the money. You are correct that the $200 a year I spend to get the magazines could be spent on a couple of great plants. Good Growing, Gene wrote in message oups.com... Al wrote: I am not trying to K-nock the AOS. I like the AOS, I have been getting that "Bulletin" (Now called "Orchids") since the 1980s, however.... http://www.orchidweb.org/aos/orchids/osd-listing.aspx The grower/vendor listing above on the AOS website is an interesting case to help answer your question They list vendors by state for the USA. When I first bought my listing for Virginia it was $50 for *two* years. Then it jumped to $100 for *two* years. This renewal period, for just *one* year (July 2006 through July 2007) it cost $100. So the price doubled from last time. In the early 90s, the primary appeal of the AOS bulletin was the advertisements. Now, the ads are almost completely irrelevant to me; if I want a specific plant, I google it. If I want to browse multiple nurseries, I head over to orchidmall.com. Consequently, it is the actual content of the magazine that is more important to me now. I find more to interest me in the Orchid Digest, so there's no point in renewing the AOS Bulletin. I don't submit orchids for judging, so from a purely selfish point of view, AOS membership really isn't of any benefit to me any more. For the cost of 12 issues, I can buy a really nice hardback book or a basket full of seedlings. Nick |
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Just wanted you all to know that I didn't hit and run upthread. I'm reading
all this with great interest. Diana |
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Diana Kulaga wrote: Just wanted you all to know that I didn't hit and run upthread. I'm reading all this with great interest. Diana me too. :) --j_a |
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Gene,
Ahh, here's where I am different, just a little. I actively buy orchid books - usually 4-6 a year. The breadth of knowledge and information found in orchid books is still unmatched, even by the Internet. I am *constantly* referring to them as I work on my website. Just this weekend I found an ID on a strange little plant I photographed in Ecuador 2 years ago from my Native Ecuadorian Orchids series. Cultural info - totally on the internet. But for checklists/references for the flora of a region/country or an in-depth look at a particular genus, books are still The Place To Go. Additionally, the market for orchid books is expanding - the selection is getting larger as the years go by. New volumes on Cuba, Mexico, Britain as well as new treatises on Masdevallias, Coelogynes, and Dendrobiums - and that's just from the top of my head. And I don't even pay attention to the explosion of gaudy (to me) coffee-table books about orchids. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org |
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Eric, I'm with you.
I probably buy about half a dozen books a year and subscribe to 6 journals (yes, including Orchids!). I am much more selective with what I buy these days compared to when I first started growing orchids when I used to buy every book that found its way to my local book stores (before the days of the Internet). I have quite a collection of "orchids for beginners" predominantly from Australian, US and UK authors but also some now out of print classics. As my knowledge improved I became more selective in what books interested me. Nowadays, I can surf the Internet at my leisure comparing prices at Timber Press, Barnes and Nobel, Amazon, Orchidaceous Books, Kew Bookstore etc, and reading online reviews/comments. I still get a great thrill when the latest parcel from Amazon arrives. There is nothing like sitting down with a beautiful book and digesting its contents. Must say, I can't resist going into second hand books stores just in case I find a gem of an orchid book. Have found some lovely old books doing this. Long live books! cheers ~John "Eric Hunt" wrote in message ... Gene, Ahh, here's where I am different, just a little. I actively buy orchid books - usually 4-6 a year. The breadth of knowledge and information found in orchid books is still unmatched, even by the Internet. I am *constantly* referring to them as I work on my website. Just this weekend I found an ID on a strange little plant I photographed in Ecuador 2 years ago from my Native Ecuadorian Orchids series. Cultural info - totally on the internet. But for checklists/references for the flora of a region/country or an in-depth look at a particular genus, books are still The Place To Go. Additionally, the market for orchid books is expanding - the selection is getting larger as the years go by. New volumes on Cuba, Mexico, Britain as well as new treatises on Masdevallias, Coelogynes, and Dendrobiums - and that's just from the top of my head. And I don't even pay attention to the explosion of gaudy (to me) coffee-table books about orchids. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org |
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John Varigos wrote: 2004 = 24312 2005 = 22574 So in one year the distribution has fallen by 1738 (about 7%) and this is before the increase in price. Cheers John it will be VERY interesting to see what this year's figures are. :) --j_a |
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Back when I started hearing about how much more the membership was going to cost, I thought I would just drop out. Last month, when the bill came to renew with AOS, I thought I would send it back with a note saying the cost was higher than I am willing to pay. I put it with my bills to be paid so I would take care of that. Then I sat down to pay the bills and I paid that one too. I thought ... "I've been a member since 1976, I can afford to renew even thought 2 years is over $100, what the heck, one more time". I still have that little voice telling me I shouldn't have paid. Steve danny wrote: I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something they would want to publish. -danny "unknown" wrote in message ... so any of you who still get "orchids" mag from the AOS--has there been any mention of a change in membership numbers since they jacked up the dues? i'm one of the ones who said "no thanks" to the nearly 30% increase, so i haven't been getting the magazine. i was just wondering if anyone knew what effect the rate increase was having... TIA... ---j_a, who plans on asking for a membership for xmas, so my siblings can split the fee. :) |
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 17:57:55 +1000, "John Varigos"
wrote: Eric, I'm with you. ------- clip ----------------- I still get a great thrill when the latest parcel from Amazon arrives. There is nothing like sitting down with a beautiful book and digesting its contents. Must say, I can't resist going into second hand books stores just in case I find a gem of an orchid book. Have found some lovely old books doing this. Long live books! cheers ~John For the Amazon buyer. If you can try Buy.Com They are out to equal Amazon and have a sale on Books (some other things as well) 10% off Amazon's price. Log in and choose your books. Then decide to wait. You may get a coupon for an additional discount - Some of the books are shipped free some are not. So it could be Shipping will change your cost. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids |
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Susan Erickson wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 17:57:55 +1000, "John Varigos" wrote: Eric, I'm with you. ------- clip ----------------- I still get a great thrill when the latest parcel from Amazon arrives. There is nothing like sitting down with a beautiful book and digesting its contents. Must say, I can't resist going into second hand books stores just in case I find a gem of an orchid book. Have found some lovely old books doing this. Long live books! cheers ~John For the Amazon buyer. If you can try Buy.Com They are out to equal Amazon and have a sale on Books (some other things as well) 10% off Amazon's price. Log in and choose your books. Then decide to wait. You may get a coupon for an additional discount - Some of the books are shipped free some are not. So it could be Shipping will change your cost. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids I always try to buy their used books ( on Amazon). Have not got a bad one so far out of maybe a dozen. Most have steep discounts. Joe T |
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Speaking of books, AOS is partnering with Amazon. If you go through the AOS
web site to purchase from Amazon, you still get the good Amazon deals and AOS gets a little something too. http://www.aos.org/aos/shop/orchidandgardenbooks.aspx Just sayin'. Diana |
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 15:19:45 -0400, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: Speaking of books, AOS is partnering with Amazon. If you go through the AOS web site to purchase from Amazon, you still get the good Amazon deals and AOS gets a little something too. http://www.aos.org/aos/shop/orchidandgardenbooks.aspx Just sayin'. Diana I hope this is the start of their cutting down the "store" at the crystal palace. They need to contain costs and up service. Their prices were generally higher. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids |
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I, too, am debating the $60 for one year renewal affordability. Prices
have skyrocked but we do have options in as far as where the money goes. Nevertheless, I may wait it out a few months before renewing since other periodicals around here are creating to nothing but clutter. But, then again, I love the AOS Orchids Magazine. .. . . Pam Everything Orchid Management System http://home.earthlink.net/~profpam/page3.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve wrote: Back when I started hearing about how much more the membership was going to cost, I thought I would just drop out. Last month, when the bill came to renew with AOS, I thought I would send it back with a note saying the cost was higher than I am willing to pay. I put it with my bills to be paid so I would take care of that. Then I sat down to pay the bills and I paid that one too. I thought ... "I've been a member since 1976, I can afford to renew even thought 2 years is over $100, what the heck, one more time". I still have that little voice telling me I shouldn't have paid. Steve danny wrote: I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something they would want to publish. -danny "unknown" wrote in message ... so any of you who still get "orchids" mag from the AOS--has there been any mention of a change in membership numbers since they jacked up the dues? i'm one of the ones who said "no thanks" to the nearly 30% increase, so i haven't been getting the magazine. i was just wondering if anyone knew what effect the rate increase was having... TIA... ---j_a, who plans on asking for a membership for xmas, so my siblings can split the fee. :) |
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They are going to scale down the store. They won't be stocking books unless
they are put out by AOS, AFAIK. Diana "Susan Erickson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 15:19:45 -0400, "Diana Kulaga" wrote: Speaking of books, AOS is partnering with Amazon. If you go through the AOS web site to purchase from Amazon, you still get the good Amazon deals and AOS gets a little something too. http://www.aos.org/aos/shop/orchidandgardenbooks.aspx Just sayin'. Diana I hope this is the start of their cutting down the "store" at the crystal palace. They need to contain costs and up service. Their prices were generally higher. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids |
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Spare a thought for those of us living in Australia. $USD 60 = $AUD 80!!
Even more reason to question continuing my subscription. ~John "profpam" wrote in message ink.net... I, too, am debating the $60 for one year renewal affordability. Prices have skyrocked but we do have options in as far as where the money goes. Nevertheless, I may wait it out a few months before renewing since other periodicals around here are creating to nothing but clutter. But, then again, I love the AOS Orchids Magazine. . . . Pam Everything Orchid Management System http://home.earthlink.net/~profpam/page3.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve wrote: Back when I started hearing about how much more the membership was going to cost, I thought I would just drop out. Last month, when the bill came to renew with AOS, I thought I would send it back with a note saying the cost was higher than I am willing to pay. I put it with my bills to be paid so I would take care of that. Then I sat down to pay the bills and I paid that one too. I thought ... "I've been a member since 1976, I can afford to renew even thought 2 years is over $100, what the heck, one more time". I still have that little voice telling me I shouldn't have paid. Steve danny wrote: I've heard membership dropped, I don't know how much. That's not something they would want to publish. -danny "unknown" wrote in message ... so any of you who still get "orchids" mag from the AOS--has there been any mention of a change in membership numbers since they jacked up the dues? i'm one of the ones who said "no thanks" to the nearly 30% increase, so i haven't been getting the magazine. i was just wondering if anyone knew what effect the rate increase was having... TIA... ---j_a, who plans on asking for a membership for xmas, so my siblings can split the fee. :) |
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Isn't it $72 for you? Could be worse. I have to decide whether to shell
out 51 pounds for another year of "Sight and Sound" from Britain. I like their movie reviews, but it's gettin' a bit pricey. -danny "John Varigos" wrote in message m... Spare a thought for those of us living in Australia. $USD 60 = $AUD 80!! Even more reason to question continuing my subscription. ~John |
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I wished, Danny. Current exchange rate $USD 1 = $AUD 1.33741 therefore $USD
60 -= $AUD 80. Not so cheerful ~John "danny" wrote in message .. . Isn't it $72 for you? Could be worse. I have to decide whether to shell out 51 pounds for another year of "Sight and Sound" from Britain. I like their movie reviews, but it's gettin' a bit pricey. -danny "John Varigos" wrote in message m... Spare a thought for those of us living in Australia. $USD 60 = $AUD 80!! Even more reason to question continuing my subscription. ~John |
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I meant US$72 for foreign subscribers.
-danny "John Varigos" wrote in message m... I wished, Danny. Current exchange rate $USD 1 = $AUD 1.33741 therefore $USD 60 -= $AUD 80. Not so cheerful ~John "danny" wrote in message .. . Isn't it $72 for you? Could be worse. I have to decide whether to shell out 51 pounds for another year of "Sight and Sound" from Britain. I like their movie reviews, but it's gettin' a bit pricey. -danny "John Varigos" wrote in message m... Spare a thought for those of us living in Australia. $USD 60 = $AUD 80!! Even more reason to question continuing my subscription. ~John |
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:49:42 -0400 in danny wrote:
Isn't it $72 for you? Could be worse. I have to decide whether to shell out 51 pounds for another year of "Sight and Sound" from Britain. I like their movie reviews, but it's gettin' a bit pricey. -danny Okay, I'll bite, what's the appeal of periodicals in this day and age? I gave up on periodicals after the incident where Mother Earth News discovered how to misuse desktop publishing software. I could no longer fathom paying my money for a bunch of ads that never seemed to target me, with a bunch of articles that appeared to be thinly veiled press releases, and a lot of bad graphic design without redeeming content. (Granted, most of my periodicals were computer industry). I can see plunking down the cash for a book with good content or the rarity a book with good content and good form. But a periodical that comes out period after period is going to have spells of bad content at best. -- Chris Dukes "The key to effective management is properly timed hovering." |
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Now you have really made my weekend miserable! ;-(
~John "danny" wrote in message . .. I meant US$72 for foreign subscribers. -danny "John Varigos" wrote in message m... I wished, Danny. Current exchange rate $USD 1 = $AUD 1.33741 therefore $USD 60 -= $AUD 80. Not so cheerful ~John "danny" wrote in message .. . Isn't it $72 for you? Could be worse. I have to decide whether to shell out 51 pounds for another year of "Sight and Sound" from Britain. I like their movie reviews, but it's gettin' a bit pricey. -danny "John Varigos" wrote in message m... Spare a thought for those of us living in Australia. $USD 60 = $AUD 80!! Even more reason to question continuing my subscription. ~John |
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In article ,
? wrote: Okay, I'll bite, what's the appeal of periodicals in this day and age? in this particular case, two words: eye candy. :) seriously though, i find some of the articles useful and i like the calendar in the back. ads do nothing for me. i *have* cut down on my subscriptions to other thing, i must admit, but i'm still addicted to the sunday paper. (i read the daily online.) (as for the orchid book discussion above--i have about three i think. that's about all i need.) --j_a |
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Chris,
For me, my subscription to Orchid Digest is like getting a book four times a year. It's a quarterly magazine and every issue is filled with valuable information. The photography is always top notch, articles very nice, and the graphic design is *slowly* improving. The graphic design has always been the weakest part of Orchid Digest, but that is always overshadowed by the sheer amount of useful info contained in every issue. The Orchid Review out of England has taken a dramatic upswing in quality the last year or so - I'm thinking about starting a subscription. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org "?" wrote in message rg... On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:49:42 -0400 in danny wrote: Okay, I'll bite, what's the appeal of periodicals in this day and age? |
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Eric
I started subscribing to The Orchid Review about 6 years ago (sorry I didn't start earlier) and it is well worth the price. Excellent articles and photography and layout is much improved, Go for it. ~John "Eric Hunt" wrote in message ... Chris, For me, my subscription to Orchid Digest is like getting a book four times a year. It's a quarterly magazine and every issue is filled with valuable information. The photography is always top notch, articles very nice, and the graphic design is *slowly* improving. The graphic design has always been the weakest part of Orchid Digest, but that is always overshadowed by the sheer amount of useful info contained in every issue. The Orchid Review out of England has taken a dramatic upswing in quality the last year or so - I'm thinking about starting a subscription. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org "?" wrote in message rg... On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:49:42 -0400 in danny wrote: Okay, I'll bite, what's the appeal of periodicals in this day and age? |
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John Varigos wrote: Eric I started subscribing to The Orchid Review about 6 years ago (sorry I didn't start earlier) and it is well worth the price. Excellent articles and photography and layout is much improved, Go for it. ~John "Eric Hunt" wrote in message ... Chris, For me, my subscription to Orchid Digest is like getting a book four times a year. It's a quarterly magazine and every issue is filled with valuable information. The photography is always top notch, articles very nice, and the graphic design is *slowly* improving. The graphic design has always been the weakest part of Orchid Digest, but that is always overshadowed by the sheer amount of useful info contained in every issue. The Orchid Review out of England has taken a dramatic upswing in quality the last year or so - I'm thinking about starting a subscription. -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org "?" wrote in message rg... On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:49:42 -0400 in danny wrote: Okay, I'll bite, what's the appeal of periodicals in this day and age? You guys could sell your old copies on ebay! That way you get your money back and I get to read the rag. ;-)) Joe T, Bayou Baytown, Tx. |
AOS/"Orchids" question
Heresy! With a good index a magazine collection retains its utility for many
years. =) I look on eBay for back issues! *grin* -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org "jtill" wrote in message oups.com... You guys could sell your old copies on ebay! That way you get your money back and I get to read the rag. ;-)) |
AOS/"Orchids" question
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:01:03 -0700, "Eric Hunt"
wrote: Heresy! With a good index a magazine collection retains its utility for many years. =) I look on eBay for back issues! *grin* -Eric in SF www.orchidphotos.org "jtill" wrote in message roups.com... You guys could sell your old copies on ebay! That way you get your money back and I get to read the rag. ;-)) If there is a particular year - or set you want -- our OS has a lot of old ones selling for about $5 a year I think. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids |
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