Taxonomy rant!
 

Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.

And on pg. 659 - top right photo and lower half of the page - what kind of
labeling is that?

"Guarianthe (syn. Cattleya) x guatemalensis 'Barbara Sullivan' CCM/AOS
(skinneri x aurantiaca)"

And on pg 661, they identify bowringiana in one picture as "C." and in the
one below as Guarianthe (syn. Cattleya).

This is getting stupid.

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

And also, my cursor is raging around the screen like a mad person! It won't
obey me! It is possessed! I hate that, when the mouse misbehaves!

Aacck.

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

Diana,

Yeah, the times are a' changin'.

This happened a few years ago. It's still not widely accepted, but since the
AOS has standardized on the Kew Monocot Checklist for names, at least we
know what taxonomic camp the AOS has aligned themselves with.

And the Laelias are all jumbled up, too. The Brazilian ones are considered
Sophronitis by Kew. Only the Mexican Laelias kept the name Laelia.

-Eric in SF
www.orchidphotos.org

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.

Taxonomy rant!
 

If they are to be taken seriously, rants should contain more words, more
words IN CAPITOLS and a few exclamation point!!!!
All the question marks were a good idea. Makes you sound desperate.

Colmanara Wildcatts have not been Colmanara for more than a year now because
some of the species in it's background got moved into new genera. I am sure
we can find evidence that the editors of "Orchids" have been asleep for more
than one issue.

There is a wide gulf between taxonomy and horticulture and the hort industry
watches the scientists, but doesn't always rush out to change tags when one
publishes a paper. If the AOS editors can not even keep up...

"They" could have at least changed it to something pronounceable.
"How do you pronounce 'C-a-t-t-l-e-y-a aurantiaca'?
"I say Gawr-eee-ANTH-ee aurantica, but pronunciation advice is like asking
for culture advice; no two orchid growers agree."

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.

And on pg. 659 - top right photo and lower half of the page - what kind of
labeling is that?

"Guarianthe (syn. Cattleya) x guatemalensis 'Barbara Sullivan' CCM/AOS
(skinneri x aurantiaca)"

And on pg 661, they identify bowringiana in one picture as "C." and in the
one below as Guarianthe (syn. Cattleya).

This is getting stupid.

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

Check for grit in the ball.

K

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
And also, my cursor is raging around the screen like a mad person! It
won't obey me! It is possessed! I hate that, when the mouse misbehaves!

Aacck.

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

Diana Kulaga wrote:
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.....


So what? Have the plants themselves changed? It happened with
Tolumnia a long time ago, yet they remain as lovely as ever. "A rose
by any other name...."

J. Del Col

Taxonomy rant!
 

Diana Kulaga wrote:
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.....


So what? Have the plants themselves changed? It happened with
Tolumnia a long time ago, yet they remain as lovely as ever. "A rose
by any other name...."

J. Del Col

Taxonomy rant!
 

Diana,

If your mouse is not a roller ball, you may be suffering from a computer
virus or trojan taking over your machine. Spybot 1.4 is good for cleaning
out these troublesome parasites on your machine and it is free. I have used
it for years and it is great. I bought Spyware Doctor a week ago and ran it
on a machine that Spybot 1.4 had been protecting for the last year. Spyware
Doctor could not find one problem on that computer.
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html

Mick

======================


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
And also, my cursor is raging around the screen like a mad person! It
won't obey me! It is possessed! I hate that, when the mouse misbehaves!

Aacck.

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

Diana Kulaga wrote:
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.


I asked my aurantiaca how it felt about this. It just shrugged and
laughed. "At least we're still orchids," it said. "Imagine how Pluto
feels."

J. Del Col

Taxonomy rant!
 

The mouse is on a roller ball. Anyway, Frank changed out the mouse and
replaced it with the one from his machine. Mine's now working fine, and the
naughty mouse is naughty on his machine. It's shot. He's using an old one
from the lap top for a spare right now, until we can get to Staples.

Thanks for the suggestions, though.

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

You are correct!!

Truth in naming NOW!!!

Uniformity NOW!!!

Frosted Mini Wheats NOW!!!

Diana


"al" wrote in message news:es1Pg.259$uj3.187@trnddc08...
If they are to be taken seriously, rants should contain more words, more
words IN CAPITOLS and a few exclamation point!!!!
All the question marks were a good idea. Makes you sound desperate.

Colmanara Wildcatts have not been Colmanara for more than a year now
because some of the species in it's background got moved into new genera.
I am sure we can find evidence that the editors of "Orchids" have been
asleep for more than one issue.

There is a wide gulf between taxonomy and horticulture and the hort
industry watches the scientists, but doesn't always rush out to change
tags when one publishes a paper. If the AOS editors can not even keep
up...

"They" could have at least changed it to something pronounceable.
"How do you pronounce 'C-a-t-t-l-e-y-a aurantiaca'?
"I say Gawr-eee-ANTH-ee aurantica, but pronunciation advice is like asking
for culture advice; no two orchid growers agree."

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.

And on pg. 659 - top right photo and lower half of the page - what kind
of labeling is that?

"Guarianthe (syn. Cattleya) x guatemalensis 'Barbara Sullivan' CCM/AOS
(skinneri x aurantiaca)"

And on pg 661, they identify bowringiana in one picture as "C." and in
the one below as Guarianthe (syn. Cattleya).

This is getting stupid.

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

So what? Have the plants themselves changed?

No, JD. But, the "so what" is that we need to be able to talk to each other.
People are lining up as splitters and lumpers. The judges don't all accept
the changes. The AOS, in its own magazine, is confusing the issue by calling
a species different names in a pictorial article.

This stuff seems to be causing consternation and confusion within the orchid
growing community, and if the AOS and the judges can't get it right, how are
the rest of us supposed to do so?

Diana

Taxonomy rant!
 

Good one, JD. Poor Pluto!

Diana

wrote in message
oups.com...

Diana Kulaga wrote:
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.


I asked my aurantiaca how it felt about this. It just shrugged and
laughed. "At least we're still orchids," it said. "Imagine how Pluto
feels."

J. Del Col

Taxonomy rant!
 

Pluto! PLUTO!! Pluto's a damn cartoon dog. Imagine how "Zena" (2003
UB313) feels! She's bigger than Pluto and never even got to BE a planet.
Like Pluto, she, Chiron and Eros are now officially "planettes" or "dwarf
planets"! Imagine being called a PLANETTE! Gezz. It even sounds
condecending. "It all in how you say it, but really we planets just don't
associate with her kind."

And to add insult to injury the International Astronomical Union has voted
to name her Eris (rather than Zena) after the Greek goddess of discord and
strife. I tell you she's not going to be happy about this! She's even got
a moon!...Oh wait....a "planette companion" named Dysnomia after the daemon
spirit of LAWLESSNESS... When will it end!???

It not over, that's for sure. This kind of thing never ends. I tell you
the whole friken universe is going to update their star charts and then the
IAU on this puny rock will reclassify everything again... As if it just
DOESN'T MATTER what this constant confusion does to interstellar tourism!!

wrote in message
oups.com...

Diana Kulaga wrote:
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.


I asked my aurantiaca how it felt about this. It just shrugged and
laughed. "At least we're still orchids," it said. "Imagine how Pluto
feels."

J. Del Col

Taxonomy rant!
 

I can't beat that. Al's got his aluminum foil antennae on again.

Militant orchid lovers UNITE NOW!!!

Truth in naming NOW!!!

Uniformity NOW!!!

Frosted Mini Wheats NOW!!!

Diana


"al" wrote in message news:8YiPg.761$GO2.702@trnddc01...
Pluto! PLUTO!! Pluto's a damn cartoon dog. Imagine how "Zena" (2003
UB313) feels! She's bigger than Pluto and never even got to BE a planet.
Like Pluto, she, Chiron and Eros are now officially "planettes" or "dwarf
planets"! Imagine being called a PLANETTE! Gezz. It even sounds
condecending. "It all in how you say it, but really we planets just don't
associate with her kind."

And to add insult to injury the International Astronomical Union has voted
to name her Eris (rather than Zena) after the Greek goddess of discord and
strife. I tell you she's not going to be happy about this! She's even
got a moon!...Oh wait....a "planette companion" named Dysnomia after the
daemon spirit of LAWLESSNESS... When will it end!???

It not over, that's for sure. This kind of thing never ends. I tell you
the whole friken universe is going to update their star charts and then
the IAU on this puny rock will reclassify everything again... As if it
just DOESN'T MATTER what this constant confusion does to interstellar
tourism!!

wrote in message
oups.com...

Diana Kulaga wrote:
Have you seen the current issue of Orchids? Have you? Did you know that
aurantiaca and skinneri are no longer Cattleyas? Huh? Huh? Ditto
bowringiana.


I asked my aurantiaca how it felt about this. It just shrugged and
laughed. "At least we're still orchids," it said. "Imagine how Pluto
feels."

J. Del Col