i must have bought the same plant from norman

grin
"molli" wrote in message
...
$45 for a Blc Golden Zelle "lemon chiffon" from Normans at our fall show.
Flowers died within days of getting it home and its been a plastic plant
ever since...wont grow, wont die.....just sits there and thumbs it nose at
me.

--
Hugs,
Molli

In the rice crispy treat of life, not everyone can be a crispy. Some are
destined to be a glob of melted marshmallow.

and you live where????????????????
"Tracey" wrote in message
...
Tracy gets the prize for tempting us too much. Living
next to H&R and paying $6 for plants... I mean really.!

Yah, I'll tell ya, I see these people buying cut flowers
and just shake my head. You can get a big ole orchid just
down the road from me and the pricing goes like this:
1 flower spike, $6
2 flower spikes, $8
3 or more, $10

And the lady at the flea market (who also has a nursery
that I've been to a couple of times) has miltoniopsis for
$5 - $7 a pot.

And, then, of course, the Windward Orchid Society will be
having their show within the next few weeks and a couple of
hundred vendors there.

Tracey

and you live where????????????????

Windward Side of Oahu, Hawaii.

Tracey

I spent $100 on a large Paph. sanderianum from a nursery that was going out of
business in Hawaii a couple of years ago. Before that I killed three seedlings
of P. sanderianum at $50 ea. This large one, I am hoping it will bloom this
year (it is a slooooooooow grower). Its origin is from the Orchid Zone, and
recently I heard that some of those are not sanderianum but Prince Edward of
York. Ah well! Maybe that is why it did not die?

Happy growing

Gene Schurg wrote:

I'm sure some of you have some records out there....fess up!

$25 for a Paph Magic Lantern in spike, just yesterday, at the
orchid show here in Hannover, Germany .

Along with 13 other plants. oy vey %-)

Nina
--
C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
Louis Pasteur
http://www.chaotropic.net

Your partner turned off the heat! How terrible. What a mean thing to do
to an orchid that did not hurt anything in it's life.


Actually it is a quite common thing to happen. He was not responding to any of
my attempts to contact him. The greenhouse was built on his fathers property
and I did not want to have to be confronted should I attempt to gain access to
the greenhouse.

He just simply did not pay the fuel bill and when the oil ran out the heater
stopped and all the plants froze.

Besides at least 150 awarded and award quality Paphs and Phrags there were at
least 5000 other plants of all types and sizes. We had over 500 growths of
Maudiae, Alma Gavert and Goultainianum that we had gotten from an old cut
flower grower in CT.

I PAID 160 FOR A PAPHS SPECIES
AND THE SECOND ONE WAS 75 ALSO FOR A PAPH SPECIES.

I WAS HOWEVER WILLING TO PAY AT ONE TIME 300 US FOR A BLOOMING CATTLEYA
MAXIMA ALBA (DOWN IN PERU) BUT SOMEBODY GOT IT BEFORE I GOT THERE

Nina Baltes wrote:

Gene Schurg wrote:

I'm sure some of you have some records out there....fess up!

$25 for a Paph Magic Lantern in spike, just yesterday, at the
orchid show here in Hannover, Germany .

Along with 13 other plants. oy vey %-)

Nina
--
C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
Louis Pasteur
http://www.chaotropic.net

Adel (Ed) Nazzal wrote:

I spent $100 on a large Paph. sanderianum from a nursery that was going out of
business in Hawaii a couple of years ago. Before that I killed three seedlings
of P. sanderianum at $50 ea. This large one, I am hoping it will bloom this
year (it is a slooooooooow grower). Its origin is from the Orchid Zone, and
recently I heard that some of those are not sanderianum but Prince Edward of
York. Ah well! Maybe that is why it did not die?



Chances are almost 100% that it is Prince Edward of York.
Especially if it is alive... Still a nice plant, and well worth having.

Rob



--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Paphs:
The most expensive plants that I purchased along with my partner when we ran
our commercial orchid business.

1986-1990
Rothschildianum 'Charles E' 3 gr. $450
Maudiae 'The Queen' 4-5 gr.$200
Neptune Mars 2 +gr. $350 *
Mt. Toro 'Orchid Loft' 3 gr.$275
spicerianum 'Orchid Loft' 5 gr. $165 *
Snowram 'Georgia' 2 gr. $260
Sioux 'Bozo' 3 gr. $ 750
Winston Churchill 'Indomitable' $350
Winston Churchill 'Redoubtable"$300

Now I feel better! The other posts were making me feel stupid.

I am not totally sure what my record was since I never kept close track, but I
got a gigantic rothschildianum about 10 years ago from Val Tonkin back when
they were $10 per inch. That was a good $400 at least.

Also Vandas- $250 each for a pair of Kasem's Delight 'Robert' from RF Orchids.

But these days it is total that kills me and not per plant costs. I have gotten
to the point where I really insist on having at least 10 of a cross I want to
bloom out just to ensure I have a good shot of getting at least one keeper out
of the bunch.

Also I like the big price breaks that come with larger orders. Instead of
buying piecemeal all year, I usually make 2-3 big buys a year to take full
advantage of the price breaks.

Right now my goal is to build breeding stock for the future, so this works well
to achieve that at the best price possible.

Tom.

I am pretty sure the price bubble on
blooming size Paph sanderianum plants in the USA is about 8 years from
bursting. :-)

Agreed!

Actually sanderianum flasks have come way down in recent times. I remember when
Doc Charles was first making these flasks (some of which are still in flask
almost 20 years later!) and he and others were finding out how tough this was
going to be. Apparently there are some tricks that have been learned, but in
the early days anyone who was having luck with sanderianum from seed was
keeping it a secret.

In the late 1980s, Orchid House had flasks of 5 seedlings for $250 per flask
and that was the reigning bargain at the time.

And when Orchid Zone first offered their sanderianums, the price I was quoted
was a mere $40 per inch from one of the retailers they supplied.

In the most recent Orchid Inn list, a new sanderianum sibling cross is now
$300- not sure if the others are left and have been discounted too though.

Heck just look at rothschildianum. Back when those were $10 per inch, the
Tonkins had greenhouses full of the things to bring to bloom. So did a few
other growers seeking to get some good breeding stock.

What I have often wondered is what happened to the 1,000s of plants that did
not make the grade with some of these growers.

Either way, rothschildianum is now probably the most common Paph around!
Everyone has some of their own and some to sell. And prices are much lower too.
These days a BS seedling from an FCC sibling will cost you $200 at most. 10
years ago a jungle collected plant could easily cost $1,000-2,000 per growth.

I am not sure sanderianum will ever get that cheap unless the germination
techniques can be improved, but I definitely agree that the $2,000-5,000
current going rate for a BS seedling will crash dramatically in a few years
time- and we will have by that point even better sibling crosses to choose
from.

Tom.