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Copied form the Trustee meeting notes from teh St Louis meeting. I hope the
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Addendum 3


Clarification of Policy - Judging and CITES


a.. Judging of Paphiopedilum and Phragmipedium Species taxonomically
described subsequent to listing of these genera on Appendix 1 of CITES. In
1989 these two genera were placed on CITES Appendix 1. As a result, species
described after this date should only be judged in their countries of origin
unless it can be established that a particular plant in question has entered
the United States legally or, in the case of hybrids, was made with legally
obtained material. The list of species includes but is not limited to:

Paphiopedilum gigantifolium, Paph. hangianum, Paph. helenae, Paph. itaniae,
Paph. malipoense var. jackii, Paph. ooii, Paph. rhizomatosum, Paph.
sugiyamanum, Paph. tranlienianum, Paph. usitanum, Paph. vietnamense,
Phragmipedium kovachii, Phrag. tetzlaffianum, Phrag. christiansenianum, and
Phrag. chapadense. Phragmipedium fischeri and Phrag. richteri are probably
exceptions because they were in cultivation under different names before
they were validly described and there have been a fair number of
Paphiopedilum species described that are actually synonyms for
long-cultivated species. For example, Paph. wenshanense (described in 2000)
is a synonym for Paph. bellatulum (described in 1892).



Until recently the situation regarding these plants was fairly
straightforward. Since there were no legal plants in cultivation in the
United States these plants were off limits for AOS judging. Just as this
list can change as newly described species are added, it can also change as
legal plants become available and can be deleted from it. Such is the case
with at least Paphiopedilum vietnamense (and its hybrids with other species
not on the list) and Phragmipedium kovachii (and its hybrids with species
not on the list).

The presence of these legal plants requires a mechanism to deal with awards
to such plants. While plants grow and individual clones are divided over
time making it difficult to tell legal material from illegal material, there
is a transition period where legal material can be traced.


a.. Judging Paphiopedilum vietnamense, Phragmipedium kovachii and their
respective legal hybrids

Awards to these two (2) species and their respective hybrids shall be
treated as provisional with the requirement that the exhibitor provide the
AOS with proof of legality; either a receipt from a legal vendor or copy of
an appropriate CITES document. In the case of hybrids involving one of these
species in the background, the documentation must be sufficient to trace the
seedlings back to a parent plant legally released into cultivation in the
United States or to a legal importation of such seedlings.

If in the opinion of the judges present, the plants exhibited appear to be
consistent with legal material, i.e., young plants blooming for the first or
second time, they may be judged without prior receipt of this required
documentation much as other species are considered without prior taxonomic
verification. However, just as with other Provisional Awards, the award will
not be processed without this documentation. In addition, these awards shall
be subject to the 1 year time limitation imposed on other Provisional
Awards.

Should additional species on the forbidden list (see above) become legally
available, the same provisional treatment shall become applicable for these
species and their respective legal hybrids.


a.. Future Changes

At some point it becomes nearly impossible to trace legal material as plants
are divided and sold or traded. In addition, after a relatively short period
specimen plants of legal seedlings are indistinguishable from illegally
collected specimen plants. Eventually it will be necessary for the JC to
decide which species and hybrids should no longer require proof of legality
for the award to be valid.

Note: Report prepared by Ron McHatton, PhD (Chair, AOS Education Committee),
Aileen Garrison (Chair, AOS Judging Committee), Lowell Jacks (Chair, Atlanta
Judging Center) - November 2006


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Default AOS Policy clarification re CITES paphs

I was just thinking about this again. I wonder if I am a "legal vendor" and
if a receipt from my business is all that an exhibitor would require to
register a plant award.

"K Barrett" wrote in message
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Copied form the Trustee meeting notes from teh St Louis meeting. I hope
the formatting comes through.

K Barrett

quote

Addendum 3


Clarification of Policy - Judging and CITES


a.. Judging of Paphiopedilum and Phragmipedium Species taxonomically
described subsequent to listing of these genera on Appendix 1 of CITES. In
1989 these two genera were placed on CITES Appendix 1. As a result,
species described after this date should only be judged in their countries
of origin unless it can be established that a particular plant in question
has entered the United States legally or, in the case of hybrids, was made
with legally obtained material. The list of species includes but is not
limited to:

Paphiopedilum gigantifolium, Paph. hangianum, Paph. helenae, Paph.
itaniae, Paph. malipoense var. jackii, Paph. ooii, Paph. rhizomatosum,
Paph. sugiyamanum, Paph. tranlienianum, Paph. usitanum, Paph. vietnamense,
Phragmipedium kovachii, Phrag. tetzlaffianum, Phrag. christiansenianum,
and Phrag. chapadense. Phragmipedium fischeri and Phrag. richteri are
probably exceptions because they were in cultivation under different names
before they were validly described and there have been a fair number of
Paphiopedilum species described that are actually synonyms for
long-cultivated species. For example, Paph. wenshanense (described in
2000) is a synonym for Paph. bellatulum (described in 1892).



Until recently the situation regarding these plants was fairly
straightforward. Since there were no legal plants in cultivation in the
United States these plants were off limits for AOS judging. Just as this
list can change as newly described species are added, it can also change
as legal plants become available and can be deleted from it. Such is the
case with at least Paphiopedilum vietnamense (and its hybrids with other
species not on the list) and Phragmipedium kovachii (and its hybrids with
species not on the list).

The presence of these legal plants requires a mechanism to deal with
awards to such plants. While plants grow and individual clones are divided
over time making it difficult to tell legal material from illegal
material, there is a transition period where legal material can be traced.


a.. Judging Paphiopedilum vietnamense, Phragmipedium kovachii and their
respective legal hybrids

Awards to these two (2) species and their respective hybrids shall be
treated as provisional with the requirement that the exhibitor provide the
AOS with proof of legality; either a receipt from a legal vendor or copy
of an appropriate CITES document. In the case of hybrids involving one of
these species in the background, the documentation must be sufficient to
trace the seedlings back to a parent plant legally released into
cultivation in the United States or to a legal importation of such
seedlings.

If in the opinion of the judges present, the plants exhibited appear to be
consistent with legal material, i.e., young plants blooming for the first
or second time, they may be judged without prior receipt of this required
documentation much as other species are considered without prior taxonomic
verification. However, just as with other Provisional Awards, the award
will not be processed without this documentation. In addition, these
awards shall be subject to the 1 year time limitation imposed on other
Provisional Awards.

Should additional species on the forbidden list (see above) become legally
available, the same provisional treatment shall become applicable for
these species and their respective legal hybrids.


a.. Future Changes

At some point it becomes nearly impossible to trace legal material as
plants are divided and sold or traded. In addition, after a relatively
short period specimen plants of legal seedlings are indistinguishable from
illegally collected specimen plants. Eventually it will be necessary for
the JC to decide which species and hybrids should no longer require proof
of legality for the award to be valid.

Note: Report prepared by Ron McHatton, PhD (Chair, AOS Education
Committee), Aileen Garrison (Chair, AOS Judging Committee), Lowell Jacks
(Chair, Atlanta Judging Center) - November 2006




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Default AOS Policy clarification re CITES paphs

The response I received from Antec was that I was supposed to issue a
receipt listing the origin (Antec Labs, address, etc) and my name, address,
etc to make it legal since I have an original receipt from Antec and can
prove origin. I suppose this can get a little ridiculous if there are a
number of middlemen.
Gary

"al" wrote in message news:aj3zh.155$yg7.111@trnddc08...
I was just thinking about this again. I wonder if I am a "legal vendor"
and if a receipt from my business is all that an exhibitor would require to
register a plant award.

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Copied form the Trustee meeting notes from teh St Louis meeting. I hope
the formatting comes through.

K Barrett

quote

Addendum 3


Clarification of Policy - Judging and CITES


a.. Judging of Paphiopedilum and Phragmipedium Species taxonomically
described subsequent to listing of these genera on Appendix 1 of CITES.
In 1989 these two genera were placed on CITES Appendix 1. As a result,
species described after this date should only be judged in their
countries of origin unless it can be established that a particular plant
in question has entered the United States legally or, in the case of
hybrids, was made with legally obtained material. The list of species
includes but is not limited to:

Paphiopedilum gigantifolium, Paph. hangianum, Paph. helenae, Paph.
itaniae, Paph. malipoense var. jackii, Paph. ooii, Paph. rhizomatosum,
Paph. sugiyamanum, Paph. tranlienianum, Paph. usitanum, Paph.
vietnamense, Phragmipedium kovachii, Phrag. tetzlaffianum, Phrag.
christiansenianum, and Phrag. chapadense. Phragmipedium fischeri and
Phrag. richteri are probably exceptions because they were in cultivation
under different names before they were validly described and there have
been a fair number of Paphiopedilum species described that are actually
synonyms for long-cultivated species. For example, Paph. wenshanense
(described in 2000) is a synonym for Paph. bellatulum (described in
1892).



Until recently the situation regarding these plants was fairly
straightforward. Since there were no legal plants in cultivation in the
United States these plants were off limits for AOS judging. Just as this
list can change as newly described species are added, it can also change
as legal plants become available and can be deleted from it. Such is the
case with at least Paphiopedilum vietnamense (and its hybrids with other
species not on the list) and Phragmipedium kovachii (and its hybrids with
species not on the list).

The presence of these legal plants requires a mechanism to deal with
awards to such plants. While plants grow and individual clones are
divided over time making it difficult to tell legal material from illegal
material, there is a transition period where legal material can be
traced.


a.. Judging Paphiopedilum vietnamense, Phragmipedium kovachii and their
respective legal hybrids

Awards to these two (2) species and their respective hybrids shall be
treated as provisional with the requirement that the exhibitor provide
the AOS with proof of legality; either a receipt from a legal vendor or
copy of an appropriate CITES document. In the case of hybrids involving
one of these species in the background, the documentation must be
sufficient to trace the seedlings back to a parent plant legally released
into cultivation in the United States or to a legal importation of such
seedlings.

If in the opinion of the judges present, the plants exhibited appear to
be consistent with legal material, i.e., young plants blooming for the
first or second time, they may be judged without prior receipt of this
required documentation much as other species are considered without prior
taxonomic verification. However, just as with other Provisional Awards,
the award will not be processed without this documentation. In addition,
these awards shall be subject to the 1 year time limitation imposed on
other Provisional Awards.

Should additional species on the forbidden list (see above) become
legally available, the same provisional treatment shall become applicable
for these species and their respective legal hybrids.


a.. Future Changes

At some point it becomes nearly impossible to trace legal material as
plants are divided and sold or traded. In addition, after a relatively
short period specimen plants of legal seedlings are indistinguishable
from illegally collected specimen plants. Eventually it will be necessary
for the JC to decide which species and hybrids should no longer require
proof of legality for the award to be valid.

Note: Report prepared by Ron McHatton, PhD (Chair, AOS Education
Committee), Aileen Garrison (Chair, AOS Judging Committee), Lowell Jacks
(Chair, Atlanta Judging Center) - November 2006






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