I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a
show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a
compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis
and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more
flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing
keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal
or is the plant just confused?

Bob

On 3 Apr 2007 15:34:09 GMT in Robert Lorenzini wrote:

I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a
show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a
compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis
and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more
flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing
keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal
or is the plant just confused?

Keiki, or pseudobulb?

(Not that it's very hard to divide a plant that produces pseudo bulbs).

As for behavior... Wouldn't know. My wife doesn't kill Catts, but they
don't bloom for her either.



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On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote:
On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote:

I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a
show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a
compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis
and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more
flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing
keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal
or is the plant just confused?

Keiki, or pseudobulb?

Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no
idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb.

Bob

Bob, can you post a photo of this somewhere?

Diana

"Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message
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On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote:
On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote:

I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a
show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a
compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis
and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more
flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing
keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal
or is the plant just confused?

Keiki, or pseudobulb?

Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no
idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb.

Bob

On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 15:14:55 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
Bob, can you post a photo of this somewhere?


No, but I could email you a pic later.


Bob

Okay. Remove the cat to send it.

Diana

"Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 15:14:55 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
Bob, can you post a photo of this somewhere?


No, but I could email you a pic later.


Bob

Robert Lorenzini wrote:
On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote:

On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote:

I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a
show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a
compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis
and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more
flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing
keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal
or is the plant just confused?

Keiki, or pseudobulb?


Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no
idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb.

Bob

Well Bob, I'm confused. A keiki is a vegetative growth where you would
expect flowers. For a Cattleya hybrid (including your slc) to do this,
it would have to grow something other than flowers from the top of an
existing pseudobulb.
On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb
isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to
start. I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers
from a new growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before
the new pseudobulb becomes obvious.

Now, let me know how your plant fits (or doesn't fit) into the above
comments. Of course, if you e-mail a picture to Diana and have her post
it on the picture newsgroup where most of us can see it, that would be
worth at least a thousand words. ;-)

Steve

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:42:51 -0400, Steve wrote:
On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb
isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to
start. I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers
from a new growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before
the new pseudobulb becomes obvious.


Spot on Steve, that's exactly what Diana said after reviewing
the pic.

Bob

Steve, I have to run right now, but will post it in a couple of hours. Need
to resize it.

Diana

"Steve" wrote in message
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Robert Lorenzini wrote:
On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote:

On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote:

I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a
show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant.
After the blooms it grew two keikis
and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more
flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing
keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal
or is the plant just confused?

Keiki, or pseudobulb?


Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no
idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb.

Bob

Well Bob, I'm confused. A keiki is a vegetative growth where you would
expect flowers. For a Cattleya hybrid (including your slc) to do this, it
would have to grow something other than flowers from the top of an
existing pseudobulb.
On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb
isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to start.
I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers from a new
growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before the new
pseudobulb becomes obvious.

Now, let me know how your plant fits (or doesn't fit) into the above
comments. Of course, if you e-mail a picture to Diana and have her post it
on the picture newsgroup where most of us can see it, that would be worth
at least a thousand words. ;-)

Steve

I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I
suggest that discussion take place in this thread.

Diana


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.. .
Steve, I have to run right now, but will post it in a couple of hours.
Need to resize it.

Diana

"Steve" wrote in message
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Robert Lorenzini wrote:
On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote:

On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote:

I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a
show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant.
After the blooms it grew two keikis
and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more
flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing
keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal
or is the plant just confused?

Keiki, or pseudobulb?


Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no
idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb.

Bob

Well Bob, I'm confused. A keiki is a vegetative growth where you would
expect flowers. For a Cattleya hybrid (including your slc) to do this, it
would have to grow something other than flowers from the top of an
existing pseudobulb.
On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb
isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to start.
I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers from a new
growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before the new
pseudobulb becomes obvious.

Now, let me know how your plant fits (or doesn't fit) into the above
comments. Of course, if you e-mail a picture to Diana and have her post
it on the picture newsgroup where most of us can see it, that would be
worth at least a thousand words. ;-)

Steve

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:58:40 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I
suggest that discussion take place in this thread.

Diana could this be called a basil keiki?

Bob

Bob, it's not a keiki at all. It's simply a new, immature pseudobulb. You've
got two of them. A basal keiki might be found, for example, on a
Phalaenopsis, which does not grow on a rhizome. The plant is doing just what
it ought to do. Be happy!

Diana

"Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:58:40 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I
suggest that discussion take place in this thread.

Diana could this be called a basil keiki?

Bob

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:13:41 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
Bob, it's not a keiki at all. It's simply a new, immature pseudobulb. You've
got two of them. A basal keiki might be found, for example, on a
Phalaenopsis, which does not grow on a rhizome. The plant is doing just what
it ought to do. Be happy!

Ok, we have been calling every new growth a keiki and now I
have to go look up rhizome. :-( I'm looking forward to a
small compot of Neofinetia falcata (I hope I misspelled that
correctly) that I just bought on ebay. I got a friend hooked
and he asked me to bid on .95 plant from the same vendor.
Well surpise he got it and just 2.50 additional shipping.
(Zygopetalum mackayi)

Bob

Well, then the conversation has been good. Rhizome is the base of the Catts,
Dends, etc, from which the new growths come. Go to Ray's site and look up
culture. There are a few different types of growth habits for orchids.
Monopodal, sympodial. It's very interesting, and there are different ways of
repotting, depending upon the growth habit of the plant.

By the way, remember that Zygo. mackayi is a fairly cool grower. I learned
this years ago when I was even more stupid than I am now, LOL! Keep it in
the air conditioned cabin with lots of light. I won't comment on Neo.
falcata, since I killed the only one I had. I fully intend to get another,
and keep it happy!

Diana

"Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:13:41 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
Bob, it's not a keiki at all. It's simply a new, immature pseudobulb.
You've
got two of them. A basal keiki might be found, for example, on a
Phalaenopsis, which does not grow on a rhizome. The plant is doing just
what
it ought to do. Be happy!

Ok, we have been calling every new growth a keiki and now I
have to go look up rhizome. :-( I'm looking forward to a
small compot of Neofinetia falcata (I hope I misspelled that
correctly) that I just bought on ebay. I got a friend hooked
and he asked me to bid on .95 plant from the same vendor.
Well surpise he got it and just 2.50 additional shipping.
(Zygopetalum mackayi)

Bob

On 4 Apr 2007 22:10:27 GMT in Robert Lorenzini wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:58:40 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I
suggest that discussion take place in this thread.

Diana could this be called a basil keiki?

Wrong plant family.
Basil keikis are more useful for pesto...


--
Chris Dukes
elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up
to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat