"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
. ..
The big boxes typically negotiate deals where they don't even pay for the
plant until it crosses their scanners while being sold. [And the grower
gets zinged if the plant re-crosses the scanners, being returned. That
part of the problem is negligible at big box volume, but there are a small
number of people who actually hold onto their receipts and thoroughly
abuse that one-year guarantee.] In general, what doesn't sell isn't worth
being picked up by the grower to attempt to rescusitate, but not getting
them back leaves the door wide open for pilferage. I suspect the growers
supplying your local HD have decided to find out for themselves how many
of their plants are just "not selling" and how many are walking out the
back door. Kenni


That's possible. What happens when they mark them down? Does the grower
still get their money?

I truly don't know. I never got that far in my conversations with folks
selling to big boxes. My *guess* is that they take part, but not all, of
the hit of the mark-down. Based on what I did find out, selling to the big
boxes was not something I could pursue. Requires enormous volume, a ready
source of really cheap labour, a willingness to cut corners on stuff like
plant hygiene, etc., etc. Kenni

"Manelli Family" wrote in message
...

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
. ..
The big boxes typically negotiate deals where they don't even pay for the
plant until it crosses their scanners while being sold. [And the grower
gets zinged if the plant re-crosses the scanners, being returned. That
part of the problem is negligible at big box volume, but there are a
small number of people who actually hold onto their receipts and
thoroughly abuse that one-year guarantee.] In general, what doesn't sell
isn't worth being picked up by the grower to attempt to rescusitate, but
not getting them back leaves the door wide open for pilferage. I suspect
the growers supplying your local HD have decided to find out for
themselves how many of their plants are just "not selling" and how many
are walking out the back door. Kenni


That's possible. What happens when they mark them down? Does the grower
still get their money?

"Manelli Family" wrote in
:

I was at the local HD yesterday afternoon and asked if they were going
to mark down the orchids without blooms as they usually do. Well, no
more marking them down. They now say the venders will give them credit
for the dead and bloomed out plants. They didn't even mark down the
1/2 dead flowers in the garden section.


Yes, they have told me the very same thing here in STL. BUUUT! I caught
up with one of the venders bringing orchids in and GUESS WHAT? Once the
vender scans the plants into Home Depot's system it belongs to Home
Depot, no rebates, no credits no nothing back if the plant dies.
Management at Home Depot is so paranoid that they believe if they
discount the plants and they die people will bring them back for a full
refund. So the plants go into the trash. That's why I take all my money
to LOWES where they discount their orchids and a lot of other things.

Grow well and bloom magnificently

"Dusty" wrote in message
. 33.102...
Yes, they have told me the very same thing here in STL. BUUUT! I caught
up with one of the venders bringing orchids in and GUESS WHAT? Once the
vender scans the plants into Home Depot's system it belongs to Home
Depot, no rebates, no credits no nothing back if the plant dies.

So he lied to me. What a creep! :-(

Management at Home Depot is so paranoid that they believe if they
discount the plants and they die people will bring them back for a full
refund. So the plants go into the trash. That's why I take all my money
to LOWES where they discount their orchids and a lot of other things.

Grow well and bloom magnificently

Yes, Lowe's does discount them. I think I'll take my money there from now
on as well.

Hey Y'all!

I wear my tux every morning to go into the greenhouse to care for the
plants. What's wrong with that?

I do say it is quite warm in the middle of the day with that black jacket.
I was thinking about a white dinner jacket for the evenings.

Gene

I bought a bunch(40) cold damaged phal's from Rona/Revy for $4 a few months
ago to use as an experiment in an aeroponics system. So far i've only
lost two and some were doubles so I am about even on that score. But the
big suprise was when I repotted them. Four of the ones with tags were P
amabalis and two of them were v.Formosa. A real nice bonus since I usually
only grow species.


"Manelli Family" wrote in message
...
I was at the local HD yesterday afternoon and asked if they were going to
mark down the orchids without blooms as they usually do. Well, no more
marking them down. They now say the venders will give them credit for the
dead and bloomed out plants. They didn't even mark down the 1/2 dead
flowers in the garden section.

I was at a local HD today to get parts for the toilet repair. I stopped by
the garden section (like a moth to the light).

They had three fresh carts of phals, onc sweet sugar, and dendrobs. 6 inch
pot for 19.95. SAD looking plants from Florida. I wanted to make a sign
and tell the customers to drive out and see Al. At the same price they
would get something happy and healthy.

I'm sure the same is true in your area.

Good growing,
Gene

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:52:59 GMT in fSmwi.58154$_d2.27926@pd7urf3no Duncan wrote:
I bought a bunch(40) cold damaged phal's from Rona/Revy for $4 a few months
ago to use as an experiment in an aeroponics system. So far i've only
lost two and some were doubles so I am about even on that score. But the
big suprise was when I repotted them. Four of the ones with tags were P
amabalis and two of them were v.Formosa. A real nice bonus since I usually
only grow species.

So,
what setup and what results on the aeroponics?
--
Chris Dukes
elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up
to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat

I am using a modified " pipe dreams" system. It is a 6" pvc pipe with three
inch mesh baskets on 6" centers. Or is that 6'? i always get the foot and
inch symbel(sp?) confused. There is a mister between every other basket.
Works real nice as long as you keep the water cool(65F). I do approx
45sec on and aprrox 5 min off. I have done much longer off cycles with good
results as well but the tubes tend to heat up a lot in hot weather. Any
thing with a psuedobulb grows to insane size in no time. I had a Zygo
flower 4 times in one year and compleatly burst the pot. The biggest things
you have to watch for are the stem/rhizome getting to wet and salts
accumulating when water wicks up.

"?" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:52:59 GMT in fSmwi.58154$_d2.27926@pd7urf3no
Duncan wrote:
I bought a bunch(40) cold damaged phal's from Rona/Revy for $4 a few
months
ago to use as an experiment in an aeroponics system. So far i've only
lost two and some were doubles so I am about even on that score. But the
big suprise was when I repotted them. Four of the ones with tags were P
amabalis and two of them were v.Formosa. A real nice bonus since I
usually
only grow species.

So,
what setup and what results on the aeroponics?
--
Chris Dukes
elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up
to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat

Should work great, but be careful of sharing plant pathogens....

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Duncan" wrote in message
news:Y1Nwi.60432$_d2.20181@pd7urf3no...
I am using a modified " pipe dreams" system. It is a 6" pvc pipe with
three inch mesh baskets on 6" centers. Or is that 6'? i always get the
foot and inch symbel(sp?) confused. There is a mister between every other
basket. Works real nice as long as you keep the water cool(65F). I do
approx 45sec on and aprrox 5 min off. I have done much longer off cycles
with good results as well but the tubes tend to heat up a lot in hot
weather. Any thing with a psuedobulb grows to insane size in no time. I
had a Zygo flower 4 times in one year and compleatly burst the pot. The
biggest things you have to watch for are the stem/rhizome getting to wet
and salts accumulating when water wicks up.

"?" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:52:59 GMT in fSmwi.58154$_d2.27926@pd7urf3no
Duncan wrote:
I bought a bunch(40) cold damaged phal's from Rona/Revy for $4 a few
months
ago to use as an experiment in an aeroponics system. So far i've only
lost two and some were doubles so I am about even on that score. But
the
big suprise was when I repotted them. Four of the ones with tags were
P
amabalis and two of them were v.Formosa. A real nice bonus since I
usually
only grow species.

So,
what setup and what results on the aeroponics?
--
Chris Dukes
elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up
to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat

"Duncan" wrote in message
news:fSmwi.58154$_d2.27926@pd7urf3no...
I bought a bunch(40) cold damaged phal's from Rona/Revy for $4 a few months
ago to use as an experiment in an aeroponics system. So far i've only
lost two and some were doubles so I am about even on that score. But the
big suprise was when I repotted them. Four of the ones with tags were P
amabalis and two of them were v.Formosa. A real nice bonus since I
usually only grow species.


Who or what is Rona/Revy?

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:NNqwi.7069$xc5.1365@trnddc06...
I was at a local HD today to get parts for the toilet repair. I stopped by
the garden section (like a moth to the light).

They had three fresh carts of phals, onc sweet sugar, and dendrobs. 6
inch pot for 19.95. SAD looking plants from Florida. I wanted to make a
sign and tell the customers to drive out and see Al. At the same price
they would get something happy and healthy.

I'm sure the same is true in your area.


Drive out and see "Al?" Who, what and *where* is Al? ???

"Manelli Family" wrote in message
...

Drive out and see "Al?" Who, what and *where* is Al? ???

http://www.orchidexchange.com/

K

Drive out and see "Al?" Who, what and *where* is Al? ???

Al Pickrel is our resident alien being/orchid seller, complete with aluminum
foil antennae.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:09:45 -0700, Diana Kulaga wrote
(in article ):

Drive out and see "Al?" Who, what and *where* is Al? ???

Al Pickrel is our resident alien being/orchid seller, complete with aluminum
foil antennae.

.....and don't forget his wenches.

Tom
Walnut Creek, CA
Nikon D200