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The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have just
fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were moving on the
bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for mites,seen nothing like
them before.
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Keith,

Yup, I see them all the time on the wood vanda baskets. There are usually a
lot of them and they hid when I water. In 2 or 3 years since I noticed them
they don't seem to do any damage but I'm sure they are eating something.

I don't notice them on the vandas outside but I didn't really look.

Good growing,
Gene

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The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have just
fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were moving on the
bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for mites,seen nothing like
them before.
thanks keith



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Hi Gene,yes i notice them more on the baskets.They are black,tiny,shiney,but
i havent seen any damage yet.But you do not see mite damage until the leaves
mottle.
thanks keith

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Keith,

Yup, I see them all the time on the wood vanda baskets. There are usually
a lot of them and they hid when I water. In 2 or 3 years since I noticed
them they don't seem to do any damage but I'm sure they are eating
something.

I don't notice them on the vandas outside but I didn't really look.

Good growing,
Gene

"keith kent" wrote in message
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The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have just
fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were moving on
the bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for mites,seen nothing
like them before.
thanks keith





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Default Tiny round black bugs,like snail eggs?

I am sure they are too small to see, but mouth part design (insects have
several different ones) might help you decide if they are eating plants or
something else. Mites have piercing/sucking mouth parts.

I am thinking beetle, but you may also be seeing something from the
Crustacea class of arthropod like a type of sowbug or pillbug.

Also, they might not be a danger to plants if you never see them ON the
plants but only on the wood or bark. They may be feeding on the bark or
feeding on things that are eating the bark. "Decomposers" are a large
category of critters and very few of them are a threat to living plants:
they feed on decaying and dead stuff.

One good way to kill or contain most very tiny critters is to let their
environment get very dry. Most orchids can take the occasional dry spell,
but dried potting media/soil/baskets kills most decomposers.

In comparison to the number of insects one is likely to encounter
(zillions), there are only an handful of insects that are likely to cause
any damage to or problems for orchids, and most of them are well known and
easily recognized either by sight or by their damage to the plant. These
shiny black balls are not among them. Not on this planet anyway.

"keith kent" wrote in message
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Hi Gene,yes i notice them more on the baskets.They are
black,tiny,shiney,but i havent seen any damage yet.But you do not see mite
damage until the leaves mottle.
thanks keith

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Keith,

Yup, I see them all the time on the wood vanda baskets. There are
usually a lot of them and they hid when I water. In 2 or 3 years since I
noticed them they don't seem to do any damage but I'm sure they are
eating something.

I don't notice them on the vandas outside but I didn't really look.

Good growing,
Gene

"keith kent" wrote in message
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The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have just
fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were moving on
the bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for mites,seen
nothing like them before.
thanks keith






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Default Tiny round black bugs,like snail eggs?

If they move, this is obviously not it, but oxalis seed looks like little,
shiny, round bugs, too!

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"Al" wrote in message news:KvxEi.513$282.24@trnddc01...
I am sure they are too small to see, but mouth part design (insects have
several different ones) might help you decide if they are eating plants or
something else. Mites have piercing/sucking mouth parts.

I am thinking beetle, but you may also be seeing something from the
Crustacea class of arthropod like a type of sowbug or pillbug.

Also, they might not be a danger to plants if you never see them ON the
plants but only on the wood or bark. They may be feeding on the bark or
feeding on things that are eating the bark. "Decomposers" are a large
category of critters and very few of them are a threat to living plants:
they feed on decaying and dead stuff.

One good way to kill or contain most very tiny critters is to let their
environment get very dry. Most orchids can take the occasional dry spell,
but dried potting media/soil/baskets kills most decomposers.

In comparison to the number of insects one is likely to encounter
(zillions), there are only an handful of insects that are likely to cause
any damage to or problems for orchids, and most of them are well known and
easily recognized either by sight or by their damage to the plant. These
shiny black balls are not among them. Not on this planet anyway.

"keith kent" wrote in message
...
Hi Gene,yes i notice them more on the baskets.They are
black,tiny,shiney,but i havent seen any damage yet.But you do not see
mite damage until the leaves mottle.
thanks keith

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:AvkEi.22$BL3.0@trndny01...
Keith,

Yup, I see them all the time on the wood vanda baskets. There are
usually a lot of them and they hid when I water. In 2 or 3 years since
I noticed them they don't seem to do any damage but I'm sure they are
eating something.

I don't notice them on the vandas outside but I didn't really look.

Good growing,
Gene

"keith kent" wrote in message
...
The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have
just fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were
moving on the bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for
mites,seen nothing like them before.
thanks keith










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Ray,

Right size and I know oxalis can be invasive but the seed doesn't have legs.

These are definately in the beetle family. Hard and crunchy shells and I
never see them on the plants and only on the teak baskets. They disappear
for a while then I'll find them again so I believe the eggs must last a long
time when things are not optimum for their survival.

I agree with Al that they are probably eating the rotting stuff in the
baskets. I could probably dip the plants in something that would kill them
if I got really really bored but since there is not any damage to the plants
I can live with them.

Gene



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If they move, this is obviously not it, but oxalis seed looks like little,
shiny, round bugs, too!

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Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Al" wrote in message news:KvxEi.513$282.24@trnddc01...
I am sure they are too small to see, but mouth part design (insects have
several different ones) might help you decide if they are eating plants or
something else. Mites have piercing/sucking mouth parts.

I am thinking beetle, but you may also be seeing something from the
Crustacea class of arthropod like a type of sowbug or pillbug.

Also, they might not be a danger to plants if you never see them ON the
plants but only on the wood or bark. They may be feeding on the bark or
feeding on things that are eating the bark. "Decomposers" are a large
category of critters and very few of them are a threat to living plants:
they feed on decaying and dead stuff.

One good way to kill or contain most very tiny critters is to let their
environment get very dry. Most orchids can take the occasional dry
spell, but dried potting media/soil/baskets kills most decomposers.

In comparison to the number of insects one is likely to encounter
(zillions), there are only an handful of insects that are likely to cause
any damage to or problems for orchids, and most of them are well known
and easily recognized either by sight or by their damage to the plant.
These shiny black balls are not among them. Not on this planet anyway.

"keith kent" wrote in message
...
Hi Gene,yes i notice them more on the baskets.They are
black,tiny,shiney,but i havent seen any damage yet.But you do not see
mite damage until the leaves mottle.
thanks keith

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:AvkEi.22$BL3.0@trndny01...
Keith,

Yup, I see them all the time on the wood vanda baskets. There are
usually a lot of them and they hid when I water. In 2 or 3 years since
I noticed them they don't seem to do any damage but I'm sure they are
eating something.

I don't notice them on the vandas outside but I didn't really look.

Good growing,
Gene

"keith kent" wrote in message
...
The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that
i thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have
just fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were
moving on the bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for
mites,seen nothing like them before.
thanks keith










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Keith,

I noticed them several years ago. I figure I probably brought them home
with me when I bought plants from Kensington Orchids when they went out of
business 5 years ago.

In 5 years no damage I can attribute to them.

Gene


"keith kent" wrote in message
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Hi Gene,yes i notice them more on the baskets.They are
black,tiny,shiney,but i havent seen any damage yet.But you do not see mite
damage until the leaves mottle.
thanks keith

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:AvkEi.22$BL3.0@trndny01...
Keith,

Yup, I see them all the time on the wood vanda baskets. There are
usually a lot of them and they hid when I water. In 2 or 3 years since I
noticed them they don't seem to do any damage but I'm sure they are
eating something.

I don't notice them on the vandas outside but I didn't really look.

Good growing,
Gene

"keith kent" wrote in message
...
The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have just
fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were moving on
the bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for mites,seen
nothing like them before.
thanks keith







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Default Tiny round black bugs,like snail eggs?

Gene, i have tried dunking the plants most effected,would be nice to know
what they are though.They are to small for a picture ,so i will keep
looking.
Thanks keith
"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
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Keith,

I noticed them several years ago. I figure I probably brought them home
with me when I bought plants from Kensington Orchids when they went out of
business 5 years ago.

In 5 years no damage I can attribute to them.

Gene


"keith kent" wrote in message
...
Hi Gene,yes i notice them more on the baskets.They are
black,tiny,shiney,but i havent seen any damage yet.But you do not see
mite damage until the leaves mottle.
thanks keith

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
news:AvkEi.22$BL3.0@trndny01...
Keith,

Yup, I see them all the time on the wood vanda baskets. There are
usually a lot of them and they hid when I water. In 2 or 3 years since
I noticed them they don't seem to do any damage but I'm sure they are
eating something.

I don't notice them on the vandas outside but I didn't really look.

Good growing,
Gene

"keith kent" wrote in message
...
The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have
just fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were
moving on the bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for
mites,seen nothing like them before.
thanks keith









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On Sep 7, 10:59 pm, "keith kent" wrote:
The last couple of months i have noticed tiny black shiney balls that i
thought were moss snail eggs.I went in tonight inthe dark as i have just
fitted a light and noticed that on a mounted plant they were moving on the
bark.Any idea what they are.Too big and shiney for mites,seen nothing like
them before.
thanks keith


I too would like to know what they are I have them in my house
especially arould the windows.
Jacqui

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