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Paraphalaenopsis labukensis question
I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a
new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett |
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I am not a paraphal freak, nor do I play one on TV, but I believe your
assessment of staying warm and humid is the key. I grow mine right along side of the vandas. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett |
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Yeah, I just looked it up on OW and I've been really growing it
improperly.... I just got finished moving it & all the vandas inside to the spare shower, *G*! They may not like it especially, but it'll keep them until I get the heater up and running... K "Ray B" wrote in message news7C4j.4481$vB.633@trnddc05... I am not a paraphal freak, nor do I play one on TV, but I believe your assessment of staying warm and humid is the key. I grow mine right along side of the vandas. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett |
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On Dec 2, 12:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote:
I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett Mine grows with my vandas, hanging upside-down from a sideways hanging cedar vanda basket. It has no media around its roots. It has always resented attempts to 'plant' it or tie it to anything. I should think, however, that treefern would be the best choice and moss, would be the worst choice (especially if intermediate or cool night temps are in play) Mine does not seem to want to attach its roots to anything at all, but it does grow well. Every year it makes a new leaf or two and a foot or two of new root. Every once in a while it leaps off whatever it is supposed to be attached to and has to be hung back up; Just kind of lets go and free falls. I find it laying on the floor or tangled in something hanging below it's former "mount". I have been thinking 'bungee cords' might be called for. Blooms every spring when the warm/sunny weather returns to my area. My greenhouse night temps are in the extreme upper 50s/ lower 60s right now. I can't say anything in moss is happy with me for that. I have been edging it up higher as warmer night temps seems to be the key to keeping botrytis off the cattleya flowers so I can get through the holidays with something pretty to sell, despite the cost of BTUs. When you walk into your tropical greenhouse in the morning and can see your breath that's not good. |
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"alpickrel" wrote in message
... On Dec 2, 12:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote: I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett Mine grows with my vandas, hanging upside-down from a sideways hanging cedar vanda basket. It has no media around its roots. It has always resented attempts to 'plant' it or tie it to anything. I should think, however, that treefern would be the best choice and moss, would be the worst choice (especially if intermediate or cool night temps are in play) Mine does not seem to want to attach its roots to anything at all, but it does grow well. Every year it makes a new leaf or two and a foot or two of new root. Every once in a while it leaps off whatever it is supposed to be attached to and has to be hung back up; Just kind of lets go and free falls. I find it laying on the floor or tangled in something hanging below it's former "mount". I have been thinking 'bungee cords' might be called for. Blooms every spring when the warm/sunny weather returns to my area. My greenhouse night temps are in the extreme upper 50s/ lower 60s right now. I can't say anything in moss is happy with me for that. I have been edging it up higher as warmer night temps seems to be the key to keeping botrytis off the cattleya flowers so I can get through the holidays with something pretty to sell, despite the cost of BTUs. When you walk into your tropical greenhouse in the morning and can see your breath that's not good. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) Maybe your Paraphalaenopsis can't read its tag and thinks its a parachute or parasailer.... Hmmm... I think I'll bring in my single leafless as long as I'm thinking of things that don't like medium around its roots.... Dendro(blahblah) funalis (I think... gad the mind is a terrible thing to waste...) Thanks for your comment! K |
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Saw these in flower in Borneo where they grow in very hot and humid
conditions. Peter Maxwell has grown these successfully - perhaps he would like to comment on his minimum temp and humidity. John "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. "alpickrel" wrote in message ... On Dec 2, 12:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote: I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett Mine grows with my vandas, hanging upside-down from a sideways hanging cedar vanda basket. It has no media around its roots. It has always resented attempts to 'plant' it or tie it to anything. I should think, however, that treefern would be the best choice and moss, would be the worst choice (especially if intermediate or cool night temps are in play) Mine does not seem to want to attach its roots to anything at all, but it does grow well. Every year it makes a new leaf or two and a foot or two of new root. Every once in a while it leaps off whatever it is supposed to be attached to and has to be hung back up; Just kind of lets go and free falls. I find it laying on the floor or tangled in something hanging below it's former "mount". I have been thinking 'bungee cords' might be called for. Blooms every spring when the warm/sunny weather returns to my area. My greenhouse night temps are in the extreme upper 50s/ lower 60s right now. I can't say anything in moss is happy with me for that. I have been edging it up higher as warmer night temps seems to be the key to keeping botrytis off the cattleya flowers so I can get through the holidays with something pretty to sell, despite the cost of BTUs. When you walk into your tropical greenhouse in the morning and can see your breath that's not good. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) Maybe your Paraphalaenopsis can't read its tag and thinks its a parachute or parasailer.... Hmmm... I think I'll bring in my single leafless as long as I'm thinking of things that don't like medium around its roots.... Dendro(blahblah) funalis (I think... gad the mind is a terrible thing to waste...) Thanks for your comment! K |
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Kathy,
Mine grows well, attached to a cork slab, in medium light, high humidity [seldom less than 90%]. While seldom do these get below 20 Celsius in Borneo, mine grows well in my heated plant house [electric heater cable in concrete floor slab], which sometimes gets down to12C on a frosty night. However, it seldom gets below 15C in my GH on a winter's night here. Fans go 24 hourly. Peter -- ) "John Varigos" wrote in message om... Saw these in flower in Borneo where they grow in very hot and humid conditions. Peter Maxwell has grown these successfully - perhaps he would like to comment on his minimum temp and humidity. John "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. "alpickrel" wrote in message ... On Dec 2, 12:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote: I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett Mine grows with my vandas, hanging upside-down from a sideways hanging cedar vanda basket. It has no media around its roots. It has always resented attempts to 'plant' it or tie it to anything. I should think, however, that treefern would be the best choice and moss, would be the worst choice (especially if intermediate or cool night temps are in play) Mine does not seem to want to attach its roots to anything at all, but it does grow well. Every year it makes a new leaf or two and a foot or two of new root. Every once in a while it leaps off whatever it is supposed to be attached to and has to be hung back up; Just kind of lets go and free falls. I find it laying on the floor or tangled in something hanging below it's former "mount". I have been thinking 'bungee cords' might be called for. Blooms every spring when the warm/sunny weather returns to my area. My greenhouse night temps are in the extreme upper 50s/ lower 60s right now. I can't say anything in moss is happy with me for that. I have been edging it up higher as warmer night temps seems to be the key to keeping botrytis off the cattleya flowers so I can get through the holidays with something pretty to sell, despite the cost of BTUs. When you walk into your tropical greenhouse in the morning and can see your breath that's not good. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) Maybe your Paraphalaenopsis can't read its tag and thinks its a parachute or parasailer.... Hmmm... I think I'll bring in my single leafless as long as I'm thinking of things that don't like medium around its roots.... Dendro(blahblah) funalis (I think... gad the mind is a terrible thing to waste...) Thanks for your comment! K |
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"K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) You can always pick up an inexpensive heater at Wal*Mart until you fix the one not working. I have three $20 heaters spaces around my 16' greenhouse. |
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Thanks for answering Peter. OK, keeping the GH heated to 59F (15C) I can do
without too much expense..... The fans are no trouble either. The humidity I'll have to bump considerably and get more consistent with. Its usually anywhere from 40 - 60 % Wild fluctuations. I hate overhead misting systems becasue aglae grows in the axils of the vandas damping off any spikes, and spots the plicate leaves. (Sounds like not enough air movement, but really there is...) Since I moved to under bench misting the stanhopeas have gotten happier and are growing cleanly, I'll just have to automate it. Tweak, tweak tweak! K Barrett "P Max" wrote in message ... Kathy, Mine grows well, attached to a cork slab, in medium light, high humidity [seldom less than 90%]. While seldom do these get below 20 Celsius in Borneo, mine grows well in my heated plant house [electric heater cable in concrete floor slab], which sometimes gets down to12C on a frosty night. However, it seldom gets below 15C in my GH on a winter's night here. Fans go 24 hourly. Peter -- ) "John Varigos" wrote in message om... Saw these in flower in Borneo where they grow in very hot and humid conditions. Peter Maxwell has grown these successfully - perhaps he would like to comment on his minimum temp and humidity. John "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. "alpickrel" wrote in message ... On Dec 2, 12:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote: I have a Pphs labukensis that has been lingering for me. Tries to put out a new growth and then just stops. So the GH has the right conditions for a short period of time and then changes..... In researching I see it can be intermediate, but more possibly its a warm grower (???? I guess that's my question) And wants high(er) humidity - like 70-80%? I wondered if I should bring this inside this winter.... I considered bringing the vandas, phals and this one inside becasue I let the GH get very cold, practically unheated, and they don't like that. For example it got down to 52F last night. Ambient was 38-40F. Anyway, I know there are a couple of Paraphalaenopsis freaks here and wondered how you grew 'em? Any tips? Mine was in a slat basket. one its side with sphagnum moss. Moss has soured and I generally don't do well with moss, so I've moved it to a treefern mount. (Ha, the more I write the more I convince myself to bring it inside.) K Barrett Mine grows with my vandas, hanging upside-down from a sideways hanging cedar vanda basket. It has no media around its roots. It has always resented attempts to 'plant' it or tie it to anything. I should think, however, that treefern would be the best choice and moss, would be the worst choice (especially if intermediate or cool night temps are in play) Mine does not seem to want to attach its roots to anything at all, but it does grow well. Every year it makes a new leaf or two and a foot or two of new root. Every once in a while it leaps off whatever it is supposed to be attached to and has to be hung back up; Just kind of lets go and free falls. I find it laying on the floor or tangled in something hanging below it's former "mount". I have been thinking 'bungee cords' might be called for. Blooms every spring when the warm/sunny weather returns to my area. My greenhouse night temps are in the extreme upper 50s/ lower 60s right now. I can't say anything in moss is happy with me for that. I have been edging it up higher as warmer night temps seems to be the key to keeping botrytis off the cattleya flowers so I can get through the holidays with something pretty to sell, despite the cost of BTUs. When you walk into your tropical greenhouse in the morning and can see your breath that's not good. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) Maybe your Paraphalaenopsis can't read its tag and thinks its a parachute or parasailer.... Hmmm... I think I'll bring in my single leafless as long as I'm thinking of things that don't like medium around its roots.... Dendro(blahblah) funalis (I think... gad the mind is a terrible thing to waste...) Thanks for your comment! K |
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"Manelli Family" wrote in message
... "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) You can always pick up an inexpensive heater at Wal*Mart until you fix the one not working. I have three $20 heaters spaces around my 16' greenhouse. Thanks, Manelli Family! Yeah, I have an electric heater out there keeping things from freezing while I get teh parts for the regular heater. So many chores, so little time. *G* K |
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wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:28:33 -0600 in Manelli Family wrote: "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) You can always pick up an inexpensive heater at Wal*Mart until you fix the one not working. I have three $20 heaters spaces around my 16' greenhouse. I'll add another two cents on inexpensive heaters... Every now and then you'll see (for a given wattage) a heater with digital controls selling for less than one with good manual switches and sometimes dial thermostat... Do not give into temptation and buy the one with digital controls. It turns off during power blinks :-). -- Chris Dukes Nice to know! K |
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Kathy, I recall you saying you had a Southern Burner gas heater no?
Where are or who are you ordering your parts from? I have ordered the "power coupler" gizmo & paid an extra dollar to have shipped over night? The guy's name is Glen in Oklahoma? Cheers Wendy "K Barrett" wrote in message news "Manelli Family" wrote in message ... "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) You can always pick up an inexpensive heater at Wal*Mart until you fix the one not working. I have three $20 heaters spaces around my 16' greenhouse. Thanks, Manelli Family! Yeah, I have an electric heater out there keeping things from freezing while I get teh parts for the regular heater. So many chores, so little time. *G* K |
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I get replacement parts from Grainger. Getting the parts isn't the problem.
Getting time is. I haven't had time to get into the GH. Maybe I'll ask for help, LOL!! K "Wendy7" wrote in message ... Kathy, I recall you saying you had a Southern Burner gas heater no? Where are or who are you ordering your parts from? I have ordered the "power coupler" gizmo & paid an extra dollar to have shipped over night? The guy's name is Glen in Oklahoma? Cheers Wendy "K Barrett" wrote in message news "Manelli Family" wrote in message ... "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) You can always pick up an inexpensive heater at Wal*Mart until you fix the one not working. I have three $20 heaters spaces around my 16' greenhouse. Thanks, Manelli Family! Yeah, I have an electric heater out there keeping things from freezing while I get teh parts for the regular heater. So many chores, so little time. *G* K |
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For those with relatively small orchid houses, there is a heater attachment
that will fit on the same gas canister used in grills. Expensive for regular use, but easy and convenient for those who only have to heat a couple-three nights a year, or as an emergency backup for use in a power outage. Sorry I don't recall where we got ours. Kenni "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:28:33 -0600 in Manelli Family wrote: "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) You can always pick up an inexpensive heater at Wal*Mart until you fix the one not working. I have three $20 heaters spaces around my 16' greenhouse. I'll add another two cents on inexpensive heaters... Every now and then you'll see (for a given wattage) a heater with digital controls selling for less than one with good manual switches and sometimes dial thermostat... Do not give into temptation and buy the one with digital controls. It turns off during power blinks :-). -- Chris Dukes Nice to know! K |
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Finally I have something to contribute to this thread. The product Kenni is
talking about is Mr. Heater. I think we got them from Farm Tek, but not certain. At any rate, here's a link to Mr. Heater: http://www.mrheater.com/productdetails.asp?catid=42 Diana "Kenni Judd" wrote in message . .. For those with relatively small orchid houses, there is a heater attachment that will fit on the same gas canister used in grills. Expensive for regular use, but easy and convenient for those who only have to heat a couple-three nights a year, or as an emergency backup for use in a power outage. Sorry I don't recall where we got ours. Kenni "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:28:33 -0600 in Manelli Family wrote: "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I hear you! When you walk in a tropical greenhouse and your glasses *don't* fog over that's trouble too. [sigh] I grow too dry. Too cold. Like I say, the heater will get worked on and turned up this weekend. (I'm betting the Raiders won't be worth watching.) You can always pick up an inexpensive heater at Wal*Mart until you fix the one not working. I have three $20 heaters spaces around my 16' greenhouse. I'll add another two cents on inexpensive heaters... Every now and then you'll see (for a given wattage) a heater with digital controls selling for less than one with good manual switches and sometimes dial thermostat... Do not give into temptation and buy the one with digital controls. It turns off during power blinks :-). -- Chris Dukes Nice to know! K |
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