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Ray B 15-12-2007 02:49 PM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as
it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better prices
than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50 or 60
gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers offer 25
gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the cost
differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and there's
nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity!

The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete systems,
but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point, as I don't
want to have to carry too many components.

The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to tap
into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to remove
chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow restrictor, drain
saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or 4-gallon pressure
tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available water), and a faucet.
Typically they are installed under a sink, with the faucet installed in one
of the holes next to your normal faucet.

My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a
large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own
standard system?
--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!




Ray B 15-12-2007 06:19 PM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
Oops. That last paragraph was supposed to ask if it's "worth" it, not
"work" it.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as
it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better
prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50
or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers
offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the
cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and
there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity!

The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete
systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point,
as I don't want to have to carry too many components.

The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to
tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to
remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow
restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or
4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available
water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the
faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet.

My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a
large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own
standard system?
--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!






K Barrett 16-12-2007 04:35 PM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
I dunno Ray. Do you really want to compete with Home Depot, Costco or
Lowes? They have larger warehouses than you do, no? And return
desks/clerks. I was at HD looking at bathroom fixtures and got sidetracked
by their r/o & filtration systems (just to see what's available these days.)
The myriad of choices was astounding. I think information about choosing a
system would be more helpful. Like: Do charcoal filters work? How big a
molecule is actually filtered in those prefilter systems and could one get
away with one of those instead of the actual r/o system? etc.

K Barrett

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Oops. That last paragraph was supposed to ask if it's "worth" it, not
"work" it.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line,
as it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better
prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50
or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers
offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the
cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and
there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity!

The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete
systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point,
as I don't want to have to carry too many components.

The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to
tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to
remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow
restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or
4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available
water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the
faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet.

My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a
large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own
standard system?
--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!








Ray B 16-12-2007 08:10 PM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
I think at a minimum I'll go with replacement filters and membranes.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
I dunno Ray. Do you really want to compete with Home Depot, Costco or
Lowes? They have larger warehouses than you do, no? And return
desks/clerks. I was at HD looking at bathroom fixtures and got sidetracked
by their r/o & filtration systems (just to see what's available these
days.) The myriad of choices was astounding. I think information about
choosing a system would be more helpful. Like: Do charcoal filters work?
How big a molecule is actually filtered in those prefilter systems and
could one get away with one of those instead of the actual r/o system? etc.

K Barrett

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]trnddc03...
Oops. That last paragraph was supposed to ask if it's "worth" it, not
"work" it.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line,
as it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better
prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer
50 or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most
retailers offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything
smaller, as the cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems
refill quicker, and there's nothing that says you have to use the entire
capacity!

The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete
systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking
point, as I don't want to have to carry too many components.

The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to
tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter
to remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow
restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3-
or 4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of
instantly-available water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed
under a sink, with the faucet installed in one of the holes next to your
normal faucet.

My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a
large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own
standard system?
--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!










wendy7 17-12-2007 02:01 AM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
Ray,
There was the guy that used to frequent out ng, he was a RO water man.
He also used to advertise in the Orchids Bulletin way back.
He was very helpful with me but his name escapes me, he would definitely
steer you right.
Cheers Wendy

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as
it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better
prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50
or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers
offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the
cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and
there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity!

The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete
systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point,
as I don't want to have to carry too many components.

The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to
tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to
remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow
restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or
4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available
water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the
faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet.

My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a
large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own
standard system?
--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!





Aaron Hicks 25-12-2007 11:01 PM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 

Wendy:

That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under
what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing. John
died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam
war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer was
likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health
problems that he had.

He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to
water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also an
orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems
and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice.

The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ



wendy7 26-12-2007 12:26 AM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
Aah! Thanks for the info Aaron albeit so sad & why I haven't seen his name
mentioned.
"Aaron Hicks" wrote in message
...

Wendy:

That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under
what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing. John
died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam
war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer was
likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health
problems that he had.

He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to
water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also an
orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems
and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice.

The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ




Ray B 26-12-2007 10:30 AM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
Yeah, John was my "go-to guy" on water quality, as well.

He was always ready to share what he knew and find out what he didn't (a
rare thing).

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Aah! Thanks for the info Aaron albeit so sad & why I haven't seen his name
mentioned.
"Aaron Hicks" wrote in message
...

Wendy:

That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under
what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing. John
died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam
war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer was
likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health
problems that he had.

He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to
water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also an
orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems
and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice.

The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ






K Barrett 27-12-2007 02:40 AM

Question for the group (cross-posted to forums)
 
I had no idea he passed away! I sad to hear that. We had him come and chat
at OrchidSafari once. He was always willing to help out & answer questions.

K barrett

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Yeah, John was my "go-to guy" on water quality, as well.

He was always ready to share what he knew and find out what he didn't (a
rare thing).

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Aah! Thanks for the info Aaron albeit so sad & why I haven't seen his
name mentioned.
"Aaron Hicks" wrote in message
...

Wendy:

That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under
what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing.
John
died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam
war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer
was
likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health
problems that he had.

He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to
water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also
an
orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems
and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice.

The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ









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