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Hi Everyone.
I've been with this group since sometime in 1997. I've looked at just about every post since then. (I say looked at, rather than read, because there have been times when I glossed over certain subjects.) I hadn't been here in over a week. Today I thought I would catch up but I find that Time Warner (Roadrunner) has cut us off. How rude!! I don't know if this has been discussed here already or not because I just came to Google groups and I'm writing this without reading first. Well, I'll have to do something about this. Using Google Groups isn't the answer for the long run because I find it cumbersome and awkward, and of course, you can't even view ABPO from here. As it is, I feel resentment at the price every time I write a check to Time Warner for TV and internet. Now this. Feeling cheated, Steve (in the Adirondacks) |
Time Warner quit offering newsgroups
Hi, Steve,
It has been a subject for a while. TW wasn't the first; Verizon was the center of the conversation. Verizon was keeping rgo but getting rid of all the binaries groups. In fact, if you scroll down (or up, depending on how you view the subject lines) past the six previous original posts, you will come to one by Al. The subject line is "abpo gone from Verizon news servers". Kye is working on something that we all can use; it is discussed in that thread. The situation sucks. Diana "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Everyone. I've been with this group since sometime in 1997. I've looked at just about every post since then. (I say looked at, rather than read, because there have been times when I glossed over certain subjects.) I hadn't been here in over a week. Today I thought I would catch up but I find that Time Warner (Roadrunner) has cut us off. How rude!! I don't know if this has been discussed here already or not because I just came to Google groups and I'm writing this without reading first. Well, I'll have to do something about this. Using Google Groups isn't the answer for the long run because I find it cumbersome and awkward, and of course, you can't even view ABPO from here. As it is, I feel resentment at the price every time I write a check to Time Warner for TV and internet. Now this. Feeling cheated, Steve (in the Adirondacks) |
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only one good thing about it: next time verizon (who does my phones)
calls and tries to sell me fios, i have a legitimate reason to yell and scream at them. :-) --j_a |
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....but FiOS is spectacular!
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! wrote in message ... only one good thing about it: next time verizon (who does my phones) calls and tries to sell me fios, i have a legitimate reason to yell and scream at them. :-) --j_a |
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Steve wrote:
Feeling cheated, (by Time Warner) Steve (in the Adirondacks) I am currently getting my usenet service via Earthlink on the identical cable that could deliver Road Runner to me if I wanted it. I am NOT a television cable customer. I only subscribe to internet service. Some time after Earthlink bought out mindspring, they announced that usenet service was a free service and therefore its elimination in the future would not be regarded by them as a diminution of service. I protested that it would be a substantial diminution of service as far as I was concerned. |
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On Jun 30, 9:16 pm, somnial wrote:
Steve wrote: Feeling cheated, (by Time Warner) Steve (in the Adirondacks) I am currently getting my usenet service via Earthlink on the identical cable that could deliver Road Runner to me if I wanted it. I am NOT a television cable customer. I only subscribe to internet service. Some time after Earthlink bought out mindspring, they announced that usenet service was a free service and therefore its elimination in the future would not be regarded by them as a diminution of service. I protested that it would be a substantial diminution of service as far as I was concerned. A year or two ago, someone on some newsgroup predicted that newsgroups would be phased out as ISPs slowly dropped that service. I thought to myself, how could they drop newsgroups when there are thousands of groups to choose from and there must be millions of people using them? Well, I guess it is happening. As more ISPs drop the newsgroup service, others will feel less obligated to provide it themselves and they will drop it too. Giganews, EasyNews, and the others will be around as long as they can make money, but how many people will try newsgroups for the first time if they have other options and have to pay a separate bill to get into newsgroups? Google will probably help keep things alive for a long time, but newsgroups weren't born to be read on a web site. It's like keeping a species from extinction by keeping it in a zoo (or, to stay on topic, by keeping it in orchid collections). Maybe we ARE a dying breed. :-( Steve |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... On Jun 30, 9:16 pm, somnial wrote: Steve wrote: Feeling cheated, (by Time Warner) Steve (in the Adirondacks) I am currently getting my usenet service via Earthlink on the identical cable that could deliver Road Runner to me if I wanted it. I am NOT a television cable customer. I only subscribe to internet service. Some time after Earthlink bought out mindspring, they announced that usenet service was a free service and therefore its elimination in the future would not be regarded by them as a diminution of service. I protested that it would be a substantial diminution of service as far as I was concerned. A year or two ago, someone on some newsgroup predicted that newsgroups would be phased out as ISPs slowly dropped that service. I thought to myself, how could they drop newsgroups when there are thousands of groups to choose from and there must be millions of people using them? Well, I guess it is happening. As more ISPs drop the newsgroup service, others will feel less obligated to provide it themselves and they will drop it too. Giganews, EasyNews, and the others will be around as long as they can make money, but how many people will try newsgroups for the first time if they have other options and have to pay a separate bill to get into newsgroups? Google will probably help keep things alive for a long time, but newsgroups weren't born to be read on a web site. It's like keeping a species from extinction by keeping it in a zoo (or, to stay on topic, by keeping it in orchid collections). Maybe we ARE a dying breed. :-( Steve I think there are going to be text groups, but the image groups will go away. That's usually where the porno comes from....but sheesh. If the government is going to say ISPs have to be accountable for the content carried on their bandwidth (read: spreading pornography), then they may as well shut down the internet because its all pornography. It was the'information superhighway' for a split second of time and then became, well, what it is.. Members of the other groups I read have found independent usenet carriers but they mostly carry text groups, few carry binaries, which is what we want to see: pictures of sex organs...*plant* sex organs, but sex organs nonetheless....*G*! K Barrett |
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Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know people
on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html K Barrett |
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No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool!
Here's the link, if it helps anyone out... http://news.motzarella.org/ K "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html K Barrett |
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:20:01 -0700 in K Barrett wrote:
No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool! Here's the link, if it helps anyone out... http://news.motzarella.org/ motzarella.org didn't initially carry abpo. I requested they ad it shortly after I started using them. They warned that they didn't have any real binary feeds, and content so far agrees with that. It'll be interesting to see how far Ray's test post propogates out. It may become use motzarella.org for posting orchid pics. K "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html K Barrett -- Chris Dukes "Let all the babies be born. Then let us drown those we do not like." -- G. K. Chesterton. |
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I joined the motzarella server - no charge, and I can get both groups with
no issue. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "K Barrett" wrote in message ... No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool! Here's the link, if it helps anyone out... http://news.motzarella.org/ K "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html K Barrett |
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On Jun 30, 5:23�pm, "Ray B" wrote:
...but FiOS is spectacular! -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids -www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! Thank you, Ray. Your enthusiasm for FiOS is noted. FiOS is coming to My Town within 14 months. I wonder how deep that I'll need to dig into my pockets? --Stitzelweller-- |
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I went from Comcast (headquartered here in Philly) at a supposed 6 meg down/
2 meg up to 15M/5M for $5 less per month, and at a much better service level, to boot. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! wrote in message ... On Jun 30, 5:23?pm, "Ray B" wrote: ...but FiOS is spectacular! -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids -www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! Thank you, Ray. Your enthusiasm for FiOS is noted. FiOS is coming to My Town within 14 months. I wonder how deep that I'll need to dig into my pockets? --Stitzelweller-- |
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On Jul 1, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:20:01 -0700 in K Barrett wrote: No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool! Here's the link, if it helps anyone out... http://news.motzarella.org/ motzarella.org didn't initially carry abpo. I requested they ad it shortly after I started using them. They warned that they didn't have any real binary feeds, and content so far agrees with that. It'll be interesting to see how far Ray's test post propogates out. It may become use motzarella.org for posting orchid pics. K "K Barrett" wrote in message ... Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html K Barrett -- Chris Dukes "Let all the babies be born. Then let us drown those we do not like." -- G. K. Chesterton. This is exciting news for me, so I went right to the site and registered. I got registered, got the e-mail with a password. First I tried changing my old Time Warner account over to this by changing the server name. etc. That didn't work and I figured it was because it was sending out the wrong password (it didn't ask for a password). OK, I should say I that I use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroups. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Here's what I did: I started over making a new account. I assumed there would be a place to put in the correct user name and password. I was never prompted to put in a name or password and the new account didn't work either. [ Hold on, I just thought of one more thing to try and stumbled onto the answer by pure luck. I'll continue with what I did in case others need to know.] Quote from the motzarella web site: "The following clients are known to need explicit configuration: * Mozilla Thunderbird Tools - Account Settings - Server Settings Always request authentication when connecting to this server " Of course, I did that before I started to write this message and it still didn't work. There are 2 hierarchies available without logging in. My idea was to look for the answer there before I continued here. I subscribed to one group that looked promising. It didn't have my answer but... surprise... it asked for my name and password before I entered. Now I'm logged in and have subscribed to the 2 orchid newsgroups. So... as long as the motzarella deal lasts, I'm all set and this will be my last post using Google. Steve |
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As someone suggested, just keep posting stuff, so the more traffic, the
better. I've signed up for Motzarella and posted a pic in abpo as a plant in need of an ID. Good to read you all again, and boo/hiss to TWC for dropping news access. Eric "K Barrett" wrote in message ... No! Motzarella carries alt.binaries.pictures.orchids! Pretty cool! Here's the link, if it helps anyone out... http://news.motzarella.org/ K "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Here's a link to two articles on the dropping of hierarchies. I know people on the mystery group are going to Germany's motzarella (I think I spelled that right) but again I'm pretty sure its text only. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967004-38.html K Barrett |
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