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Humic Acid
Many moons ago, when I was experimenting with developing my own,
better-but-much-cheaper SuperThrive (abandoned, due to EPA regs), I began using humic acid as an additive to the formulation. I am quite certain of its benefit in soils, as it helps release otherwise-sequestered nutrients, but I questioned its applicability to orchid-growing. I know this is quite unscientific, but about 4 months ago - just before the time I had to start mostly "ignoring" my collection due to the various surgeries I endured - I added a liquid humic acid concentrate to my fertilizer feed tank, so have been feeding with it (it ends up being about a teaspoon per gallon), and it "looks" like it may be a "plus" after all, as I am seeing more growth and blooms than I had been (again I'll state - it's quite an unscientific assessment). Anyone else have any thoughts or experience? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! |
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We sell lots of Humic AND fulvic acids. Some people swear by them. Fulvic
is the same group of organic acids, anything with a molecular weight higher than X is humic and anything lighter is fulvic. They supposedly act as organic chelating agents and help plants take up nutrients easier. I have alway assumed that ST contains them. We sell several brands of B-1 and although people like them we get far better feed back from ST users. There is real reasearch out there that supports adding humics and fulvics. I do use them on my orchids but everything gets everything, or ussually everything gets nothing. I've fertilized twice this year already!!! I'm a big believer in the theory that orchids thrive on neglect. BTW the kelp was probably acsophyllum nodosum. Contains cytokinins which helps branching/rates of cell division/ect. AG Canada HATES anything that says humic acid on it. If you think the EPA is hard on the head you should try dealing with those powermad yahoo's. "Ray B" wrote in message ... Many moons ago, when I was experimenting with developing my own, |
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Duncan, what doesn't the Canadian AG like about humic acid? The word 'acid'?
Weird. K Barrett "Duncan" wrote in message news:mmsdk.68843$Jx.48477@pd7urf1no... We sell lots of Humic AND fulvic acids. Some people swear by them. Fulvic is the same group of organic acids, anything with a molecular weight higher than X is humic and anything lighter is fulvic. They supposedly act as organic chelating agents and help plants take up nutrients easier. I have alway assumed that ST contains them. We sell several brands of B-1 and although people like them we get far better feed back from ST users. There is real reasearch out there that supports adding humics and fulvics. I do use them on my orchids but everything gets everything, or ussually everything gets nothing. I've fertilized twice this year already!!! I'm a big believer in the theory that orchids thrive on neglect. BTW the kelp was probably acsophyllum nodosum. Contains cytokinins which helps branching/rates of cell division/ect. AG Canada HATES anything that says humic acid on it. If you think the EPA is hard on the head you should try dealing with those powermad yahoo's. "Ray B" wrote in message ... Many moons ago, when I was experimenting with developing my own, |
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Humic Acid
If it's for plants its part of thier domain. The stupid thing is products
can contain humic acid. The label just cant SAY it contains them. Even if the product is called Humic black thats OK, but the same bottle can't say 'contains Humic acid'. It is actually a very very weak acid only. pH 5.5 ish even at full strength. Anything that isn't NPK they don't like. Humic acid is naturally present in all surface water, so you know the G need to regulate it. "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Duncan, what doesn't the Canadian AG like about humic acid? The word 'acid'? Weird. K Barrett " |
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Humic Acid
If you consider that Canada has the North American market on peat sewn up,
and that's where a lot of humic acid comes from, it's rather ironic, no? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "Duncan" wrote in message news:Envdk.62180$kx.17365@pd7urf3no... If it's for plants its part of thier domain. The stupid thing is products can contain humic acid. The label just cant SAY it contains them. Even if the product is called Humic black thats OK, but the same bottle can't say 'contains Humic acid'. It is actually a very very weak acid only. pH 5.5 ish even at full strength. Anything that isn't NPK they don't like. Humic acid is naturally present in all surface water, so you know the G need to regulate it. "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Duncan, what doesn't the Canadian AG like about humic acid? The word 'acid'? Weird. K Barrett " |
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Humic Acid
"Ray B" wrote in message ... If you consider that Canada has the North American market on peat sewn up, and that's where a lot of humic acid comes from, it's rather ironic, no? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com K Barrett " |
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Opps clicked on send by misteak when i actually wanted to click on nothing
at all! Belleve it or not it mostly comes from coal. The coal used to be peat. We prety much have that market sewn up as well. Most of Alberta has coal under it. I just went to the Alberta Geological Survey web page and they estmate there is over 2 TRILLION tons of coal in the plains region alone with the mountains/foothills being loaded as well. "Ray B" wrote in message ... If you consider that Canada has the North American market on peat sewn up, and that's where a lot of humic acid comes from, it's rather ironic, no " |
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