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I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped
alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. |
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Well then, maybe soon we'll all be motzarella subscribers....
K "eeyore" wrote in message ... I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. |
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Buddy, they didn't even let me know. They just dumped it. Andrew Cuomo,
c'mon down to the Glades. We'd love to show you around. I am supremely angry. Mottzarella isn't working for those who have tried it. It double posts, and they can only see posts that have been originated by Mottzarella members. Wait for Kye. He started abpo. Hopefully, he'll rescue is this time. Diana "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Well then, maybe soon we'll all be motzarella subscribers.... K "eeyore" wrote in message ... I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:00:51 GMT, "eeyore"
wrote: I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. I have subscribed to Giganews for years now due to their fast access, low cost and ease of use. http://www.giganews.com/ And yes Time Warner has dropped ALL Newsgroups, not just the .ALT groups so I am very glad to have the Giganews. I also have one from Forte' http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php not to mention using Agent as my news reader Dave Dave Fouchey Florence, SC N34° 11' 36.40" W79° 47' 6.85" WA4EMR |
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I've just had all alt.binary. groups dropped by Bellsouth with no warning
whatsoever and I'm p.o.'d. I may just vent a little when opening time comes around. It wouldn't hurt. I'd just get some little old ladiy in India or somewhere who can barely understand me and vice versa. Maybe I'll just hold on long enough until I get someone whose first language is English and can give me some explanation. I know it won't do any good either - a waste of time especially if I don't feel any better after it's done. Threatening to drop all my AT&T services might make me feel like I've got a bat in this war. I have a lot of their services but to them it's a drop in the bucket. They might even make some consilatory offer to show some effort toward good customer service but it still wouldn't bring back alt.binary services. Another score for the big bad guys! Gary "eeyore" wrote in message ... I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. |
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If you want to try Motzarella, they won't let you register with a bell.south
email so get yourself a freebee somewhere. Gary "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message .. . Buddy, they didn't even let me know. They just dumped it. Andrew Cuomo, c'mon down to the Glades. We'd love to show you around. I am supremely angry. Mottzarella isn't working for those who have tried it. It double posts, and they can only see posts that have been originated by Mottzarella members. Wait for Kye. He started abpo. Hopefully, he'll rescue is this time. Diana "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Well then, maybe soon we'll all be motzarella subscribers.... K "eeyore" wrote in message ... I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. |
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:41:45 -0400 in Diana Kulaga wrote:
Buddy, they didn't even let me know. They just dumped it. Andrew Cuomo, c'mon down to the Glades. We'd love to show you around. I am supremely angry. Mottzarella isn't working for those who have tried it. It double posts, and they can only see posts that have been originated by Mottzarella members. Ahem, there's enough FUD without you adding to it. motzarella.org works well enough with a couple exceptions. 1) It sometimes reports a failure to post an article when it actually was successful. Normal user response to such an error is to tell it to retry several times before getting annoyed and giving up. A better response is to postpone the article, check for new articles in the newsgroup, and try again if it has not appeared within 15 minutes or so. It's worth noting that this was common behavior back in the days of mom&pop ISPs. 2) It carries abpo. It appears to receive non-binaries posts from the outside just fine. It sends out binaries posts just fine. As the peers to news.motzarella.org are NOT binary oriented, it does not currently receive binaries posted elsewhere. Wait for Kye. He started abpo. Hopefully, he'll rescue is this time. Diana "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Well then, maybe soon we'll all be motzarella subscribers.... K "eeyore" wrote in message ... I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. -- Chris Dukes "Let all the babies be born. Then let us drown those we do not like." -- G. K. Chesterton. |
Read this if you use your ISP for more than a connection.
If you actually use the USENET server associated with your ISP
*OR* the email associated with your ISP *OR* the web space associated with your ISP, expect them to disappear in the next few years. In the event that your ISP is owned by a media distribution company (TWC and Comcast come to mind immediately), the corporate vision is to turn the Internet into a passive consumption channel like TV and movies. They do not want you to be creative or increase the knowledge base of humanity. They want you to sit back, absorb what they send you, and buy crap. And with AT&T's rollout of uVerse and Verizon's FIOS rollout, they have both firmly stuck their toes into the business of being media distribution companies. No matter who owns your ISP, services such as USENET, email, and web content are used by a diminishing portion of the customer base but still requires the same or increasing number of servers and employees to maintain. Depending on your jurisdiction hosting these services creates increased liability to provide manpower and CPU time to provide information requested under civil and criminal supoenas. The behavior that is responsible to the share holders is to drop such services. The ISPs may claim this is in response to pressure for a noble cause like ridding the net of kiddy pr0n, but it really boils down to their corporate interests. Folks with power love firebrands like kiddy pr0n because they can immediately label those they oppose as "perverts." If you think such services should be part of your ISP bundle, you need to seek out an ISP that advertises that users like you are its target market. And then pick the ones that actually keep their customers informed. If your ISP has started dropping these services on you, look at what other ISPs are available. If you find a suitable alternative switch to it. Inform the ISP. Inform customer service management and executive management. If your ISP has not started dropping these services on you, look at what other ISPs are available. Inform the customer service management and executive management that you will switch if they drop the services you desire. And for those of you that have moved to free replacement services, do NOT bad mouth the service for what is usually a tragedy of the commons situation. Feel free to blame yourself for not understanding the limitations of the service. Feel free to blame yourself for not understanding the resource limitations of someone running a free service without advertising revenue. Feel free to blame yourself for not using the appropriate support channels for the free service. I've heard some of you complain of the drain from leading an orchid society where the members only consume and do not contribute. Running a free news service is the same way. I caught entirely too much crap when I ran a USENET server for IBM in the 90s. A girl I dated caught entirely too much crap when she was NNTP admin for a mom&pop ISP. Oh, and if you're a disruptive soul that can give good sound bites... Contact your local TV-News affilliate and explain to them how what the ISPs are doing actually makes it harder to catch child pornography distributors. It's actually true. -- Chris Dukes "Let all the babies be born. Then let us drown those we do not like." -- G. K. Chesterton. |
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I use ATT DSL and was just checking the news groups and could still see a
large group of binary groups. the server is news.dallas.sbcglobal.net . I did notice RGO is not retaining post as long. "eeyore" wrote in message ... I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. |
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And then it was gone.
"Mark_OK" wrote in message ... I use ATT DSL and was just checking the news groups and could still see a large group of binary groups. the server is news.dallas.sbcglobal.net . I did notice RGO is not retaining post as long. "eeyore" wrote in message ... I use ATT and have just been informed that they've dropped alt.binaries.orchids to block "child porn". Not sure I see the connection, but does anyone know of any alternative providers or other accesses to newsgroups. Apologize as I know this issue has already been posted, but at the time ATT didn't seem to be blocking groups. They just threw this at me with no notification. |
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I think all these **** ISP's owe us a huge rebate for services not
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Storm the barricades! Pitchforks and torches, I say!
Diana "Dusty" wrote in message . 33.102... I think all these **** ISP's owe us a huge rebate for services not rendered. I'm getting really tired of paying more for less. |
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sounds good to me.
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Dusty, the situation is interesting. Andrew Cuomo has been trying for years
to get elected to something - anything. Now that he's won an office, he is doing his best to prove he is effective. I was no fan of Mario the Pious (Andrew's father) when he was Governor of NY. But he established himself as strong and capable. The son is trying to move out of his father's shadow. I know it sounds like psychobabble, but that's what a lot of NYers believe. Shakespeare lives. Diana "Dusty" wrote in message . 33.102... wrote in news:bdceb770-f02d-4d50-bfec-e5d4eec9e2c1 @a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: sounds good to me. --j_a Oops forgot to paste this link http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html |
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What I think of Attorney General Andrew Cuomo is better said by
Mark Twain "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." A couple more of my favorites are Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them. Mark Twain |
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I was trying to be gentle. ;o)
Diana "Dusty" wrote in message . 33.102... What I think of Attorney General Andrew Cuomo is better said by Mark Twain "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." A couple more of my favorites are Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them. Mark Twain |
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