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Hello Again , ABPO ?
On Feb 6, 11:30*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:29:59 -0800 (PST) in Ted Byers *wrote: Granted, things have gotten better, we're back to normally having web pages where I can click on a specific blog entry and get a URL I can send to someone else and 1) it'll work 2) It's human readable and less than 80 characters long.... But it's a UI nightmare to shuffle between live journal, various software blogs, launchpad.... *And maintaining state about what's read and unread and what was marked as unread so it could be reread, is pretty much non-existant. Tell me about it. I have to handle such nightmares when designing web based user interfaces that the end user would find both useful and friendly. BTW: maintaining such state is not hard to handle IF one creates an effective subscription interface (using a design pattern similar to what is required for the combination of security and user friendliness that requires single logon for multiple applications with unique permissions requirements for different categories of users); but creating it requires a software engineer who knows what he's doing and finding one of these is itself a nightmare. Plus I'm horribly biased from 11 years of dealing with incompetent websphere developers mixed with cargo cult PHP developers and my normal inspiration being to go build a raised bed instead of writing something that sucks less :-). Don't forget the cult Ruby developers and cult Javascript developers and, the worst of the lot, VB developers. ;-) I no longer get upset with the hordes of incompetent developers out there. Instad I seek to endure what I can't change, change what I can, and especially seek the wisdom to know the difference. What passes for a curriculum for software engineers these days at a lot of colleagues is a disgrace. It is annoying that such folks damage the market for custom software by their routine failure to deliver good quality software, but there isn't much one can do about it. And I see poor quality software everywhere I go. I'll stop here as this gets rather depressing ... Cheers Ted |
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Hello Again , ABPO ?
On Feb 7, 9:28*am, "Pat Brennan" wrote:
If you really do not like Outlook that much get on google and find a news reader that is more to your liking. *There are a couple of them out there which are free to download. I do not think any website is going to be the same as USENET. *With websites come moderators, administrator, owners, IDs and passwords, rules, and hosting bills. *If these things do not bother you, there are lots of web based orchid forums out there. *None of them are like the wild, wild west USENET used to be. *I was recently asked where all the RGOers went. *I replied that I really did not know and that you did not see that many of them on the various website forums except Ray and Ray is ubiquitous. This is an encouragement to develop a better website which includes forums. While USENET was useful in its time, there are major problems with it (SPAM, flamewars, poor signal to noise ratio). I prefer a little more order than is possible in the wild wild west. For plain text fora, I find google groups to be as effective, and more user friendly, than a conventional news reader' although it does nothing to address the major problems that may be an inevitable part of unmoderated usenet newsgroups. I have seen once useful newsgroups become completely worthless because of problems like SPAM (some of which was so disgraceful no responsible parent would let their kids see similar material). It is not just an orchid based forum I would like to see (I have probably already bookmarked most of them), but one where the regulars here can continue to provide their expertise, others can ask their questions, pictures can be posted/viewed, and one which includes a database back end that contains first hand experience and records from those growing orchids (and other plants) that can be queried/analyzed, and including data that can be used to identify/classify specimens that have yet to be identified, and a whole lot more. For example, being able to maintain a record of culture practices and results would allow us to learn what works best in a given environment. I know a guy who can heal any plants almost killed by neighbors (putatively in the same general environment: same temperature, lighting and humidity in the outside environment), and he makes them thrive. He attributes this to his practice of keeping humidity in his greanhouse at almost 100% where his neighbors attempt to compensate for low humidity by watering more frequently. I don't know if his explanation is right, but having environmental conditions and cultural practices stored in a database along with the performance of the plants, for subsequent analysis, would allow one to find out and more importantly learn what is both practicable and effective in almost any situation (window sill, greenhouse, &c.). Have you seen any resource anywhere on the web that supports anything like this? Cheers Ted |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:55:22 -0800 (PST) in Ted Byers wrote:
Ah, OK. More evidence that politicians are useless idiots who are highly unlikely to ever do anything useful. Well, Cuomo did do something useful. He provided the legal excuse for ISPs to dump a service they perceived to be high cost and utilized by only a fraction of their customers. Unfortunately the utility of the action depends on who you are... -- Chris Dukes davej eskimos have hundreds of words for snow. I have two. Bullshit. |
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