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No one from Victoria?
On Feb 12, 8:43*am, "K Barrett" wrote:
Thank you Andrew. You're a pal! *I guess I can't get over being a den mother. K Barrett Not a problem. I realise it's quite disconcerting, when disasters occur outside of your country, to try and piece together where your international friends are on a map you're probably not familiar with. |
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No one from Victoria?
Does anyone know anything about Kye?
Diana "Andrew" wrote in message ... On Feb 12, 8:43 am, "K Barrett" wrote: Thank you Andrew. You're a pal! I guess I can't get over being a den mother. K Barrett Not a problem. I realise it's quite disconcerting, when disasters occur outside of your country, to try and piece together where your international friends are on a map you're probably not familiar with. |
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No one from Victoria?
Hi Diana
No need to worry about Kye. He lives in Queensland and is probably closer to the floods in Northern Australia than he is to the bush fires in Victoria. Such is the nature of Australia that we are drowning in the north, burning in the south and being eaten in the middle (two shark attacks in Sydney in last two days!) http://www.theage.com.au/national/bo...0213-86a6.html John "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ... Does anyone know anything about Kye? Diana "Andrew" wrote in message ... On Feb 12, 8:43 am, "K Barrett" wrote: Thank you Andrew. You're a pal! I guess I can't get over being a den mother. K Barrett Not a problem. I realise it's quite disconcerting, when disasters occur outside of your country, to try and piece together where your international friends are on a map you're probably not familiar with. |
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No one from Victoria?
Thanks, John. I am geographically (not to mention vertically!) challenged.
Diana "John Varigos" wrote in message ster.com... Hi Diana No need to worry about Kye. He lives in Queensland and is probably closer to the floods in Northern Australia than he is to the bush fires in Victoria. Such is the nature of Australia that we are drowning in the north, burning in the south and being eaten in the middle (two shark attacks in Sydney in last two days!) http://www.theage.com.au/national/bo...0213-86a6.html John "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message ... Does anyone know anything about Kye? Diana "Andrew" wrote in message ... On Feb 12, 8:43 am, "K Barrett" wrote: Thank you Andrew. You're a pal! I guess I can't get over being a den mother. K Barrett Not a problem. I realise it's quite disconcerting, when disasters occur outside of your country, to try and piece together where your international friends are on a map you're probably not familiar with. |
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No one from Victoria?
On Feb 12, 4:04*pm, "John Varigos"
wrote: Hi Diana No need to worry about Kye. *He lives in Queensland and is probably closer to the floods in Northern Australia than he is to the bush fires in Victoria. *Such is the nature of Australia that we are drowning in the north, burning in the south and being eaten in the middle (two shark attacks in Sydney in last two days!)http://www.theage.com.au/national/bo...dneys-second-i... That reminds me of when I was in India a few years ago. I was in the Punjab, where the monsoons had failed for several years in a row by the time I arrived. Average temperature was 45 degrees Celcius, and Rajastan, to the south of Punjab was even hotter and drier. The suffering of those in rural areas and in ghettos was terrible. And a month after I arrived in the Punjab, in Assam, the easternmost state in India, they had terrible floods that drove all kinds of nasty critters into homes, and we remarked how cool the Punjab had become when the termperatures moderated to 35 degrees Celcius ;-). To bad one can't easily create an infrastructure that takes such surplus water and pipe or otherwise ship it to neighbors who need it. That makes as much sense as the pipelines that carry oil and natural gas from western and northern Canada down to the states and east to central Canada, perhaps more so. Reduce the hazard, at least a little, due to flooding, and get it to the south to ameliorate the worst aspects of the drought. Needless to say, our thought and prayers in this household are with the folk down under who are living through such tough times; both in the flooded north and burning south. Ted |
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Thanks for your thoughts Ted. Our politicians have been talking about a
North-South water pipeline to bring water from the monsoonal north to the drought stricken south for more than 100 years. If they had started back then it would have been finished by now. Now, had it been an oil pipeline that was required ......!! John "Ted Byers" wrote in message ... On Feb 12, 4:04 pm, "John Varigos" wrote: Hi Diana No need to worry about Kye. He lives in Queensland and is probably closer to the floods in Northern Australia than he is to the bush fires in Victoria. Such is the nature of Australia that we are drowning in the north, burning in the south and being eaten in the middle (two shark attacks in Sydney in last two days!)http://www.theage.com.au/national/bo...dneys-second-i... That reminds me of when I was in India a few years ago. I was in the Punjab, where the monsoons had failed for several years in a row by the time I arrived. Average temperature was 45 degrees Celcius, and Rajastan, to the south of Punjab was even hotter and drier. The suffering of those in rural areas and in ghettos was terrible. And a month after I arrived in the Punjab, in Assam, the easternmost state in India, they had terrible floods that drove all kinds of nasty critters into homes, and we remarked how cool the Punjab had become when the termperatures moderated to 35 degrees Celcius ;-). To bad one can't easily create an infrastructure that takes such surplus water and pipe or otherwise ship it to neighbors who need it. That makes as much sense as the pipelines that carry oil and natural gas from western and northern Canada down to the states and east to central Canada, perhaps more so. Reduce the hazard, at least a little, due to flooding, and get it to the south to ameliorate the worst aspects of the drought. Needless to say, our thought and prayers in this household are with the folk down under who are living through such tough times; both in the flooded north and burning south. Ted |
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No one from Victoria?
On Feb 12, 9:17*pm, "John Varigos"
wrote: Thanks for your thoughts Ted. *Our politicians have been talking about a North-South water pipeline to bring water from the monsoonal north to the drought stricken south for more than 100 years. *If they had started back then it would have been finished by now. Now, had it been an oil pipeline that was required ......!! One can live without oil, but one can not live without water! And business can't thrive if there's no-one to hire to do the work or buy their product/service. I guess the politicians there are as useless as those here. Maybe someone needs to rattle their cages and demand that they get it done. I would hold them, and their predecessors, guilty of negligent homicide in the deaths of everyone who has died as a result of either the floods in the north or the fires in the south. A combination of water pipelines, with appropriate water management, and creative landscaping ought to minimize risk of wild fire at least in urban centres, and around homes in rural areas. There are wildly different kinds of plants growing in each area. For example, in the Canadian boreal forest, there is no such thing as a truly old growth forest. The forest NEEDS fire to replenish itself, and many boreal tree species can not reproduce unless fire burns the resin of their cones so they can open. And some of these species have bark that is loaded with resin, and they burn magnificently. But there are species that, if sufficiently mature, will suffer only trivial scarring, surviving most fires well, and there are some species that can be described as reluctant burners: stands of these are sometimes referred to as asbestos forests. It isn't that they won't burn, but rather that wildfires tend not to propagate through them very well. All of these live in the same general environment: the Canadian boreal forest. As for water management, lessons can be learned from beavers. When they were thriving through north america, including the arid southwest of Alberta (I guess that would be in the foothills, primarily, as they need access to streams and trees, those sites with the largest concentration of beaver always had plenty of surface potable water even in the worst of droughts. It isn't likely that any of these Canadian species could survive down under, but understanding their ecology here, and the hydrology of ecosystems containing lots of beaver, could aide in designing useful water management systems, and identifying native plants that could provide something of a buffer between homes and areas prone to wildfire. I can only hope the final death toll is no worse than what we've heard, and that once the shock of the tragedy has subsided, all the people there start taking their politicians to task, demanding that they finally do something useful to minimize the chances of such tragedies occuring again. Cheers, Ted |
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