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Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info etc
..I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .

I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith



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Keith,

The stuff you do with rainwater is exactly correct with RO water.

Pay particular to the pH and buffering.

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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:57 PM
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Subject: RO water

Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info
etc
..I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .

I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this
suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith


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RO waterHi Ray , so my regime should fit in ok .
I add 15ml feed, 5ml cal ,5ml sulphate of ammonia ,5 ml mag then add this gradually to 80 ltrs to get the required strength depending on time of year.
So no more additives are needed ?
I tested some waste RO water today and the PH was 7.4 and 750 m/sm i was thinking of using this waste water for my hydrofogger. Good or bad idea or is it no better than tap water so waste of time using.
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:[email protected]
Keith,

The stuff you do with rainwater is exactly correct with RO water.

Pay particular to the pH and buffering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:57 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info etc
.I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .

I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith

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As I use a complete fertilizer formulation, I cannot comment on the
additional stuff needed other than to say "make sure it's complete"
(which those don't seem to be).

If your hydrofogger does not deposit any droplets on your plants, and
you don't mind doing some periodic cleaning, the flush water ought to be
OK. I use RO in mine, because it does and I do.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:59 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
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Subject: RO water

Hi Ray , so my regime should fit in ok .
I add 15ml feed, 5ml cal ,5ml sulphate of ammonia ,5 ml mag then add
this gradually to 80 ltrs to get the required strength depending on time
of year.
So no more additives are needed ?
I tested some waste RO water today and the PH was 7.4 and 750 m/sm i was
thinking of using this waste water for my hydrofogger. Good or bad idea
or is it no better than tap water so waste of time using.
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Keith,
The stuff you do with rainwater is exactly correct with RO water.
Pay particular to the pH and buffering.
Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!
-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:57 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water
Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info
etc
..I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .
I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this
suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith

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RO waterHi Ray , i may have been misunderstood , the 15 ml feed is a complete feed of 2-1-4 /trace ,the N added to make it
4-1-4 and Cal & Mg added as a suppliment .I mix all this together in 100 ml of water then gradually add this to 80 lt of rain water to the required strength depending on time of year then alter the ph between 6.1 -6.9 .
So if this was used with RO should it be o.k ?.
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:[email protected]
As I use a complete fertilizer formulation, I cannot comment on the additional stuff needed other than to say "make sure it's complete" (which those don't seem to be).



If your hydrofogger does not deposit any droplets on your plants, and you don't mind doing some periodic cleaning, the flush water ought to be OK. I use RO in mine, because it does and I do.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com

Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:59 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water



Hi Ray , so my regime should fit in ok .

I add 15ml feed, 5ml cal ,5ml sulphate of ammonia ,5 ml mag then add this gradually to 80 ltrs to get the required strength depending on time of year.

So no more additives are needed ?

I tested some waste RO water today and the PH was 7.4 and 750 m/sm i was thinking of using this waste water for my hydrofogger. Good or bad idea or is it no better than tap water so waste of time using.

Thanks Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:[email protected]

Keith,

The stuff you do with rainwater is exactly correct with RO water.

Pay particular to the pH and buffering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:57 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info etc
.I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .

I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith



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I would think so.

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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, June 08, 2009 5:41 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Hi Ray , i may have been misunderstood , the 15 ml feed is a complete
feed of 2-1-4 /trace ,the N added to make it
4-1-4 and Cal & Mg added as a suppliment .I mix all this together in
100 ml of water then gradually add this to 80 lt of rain water to the
required strength depending on time of year then alter the ph between
6.1 -6.9 .
So if this was used with RO should it be o.k ?.
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
As I use a complete fertilizer formulation, I cannot comment on the
additional stuff needed other than to say "make sure it's complete"
(which those don't seem to be).

If your hydrofogger does not deposit any droplets on your plants, and
you don't mind doing some periodic cleaning, the flush water ought to be
OK. I use RO in mine, because it does and I do.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:59 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Hi Ray , so my regime should fit in ok .
I add 15ml feed, 5ml cal ,5ml sulphate of ammonia ,5 ml mag then add
this gradually to 80 ltrs to get the required strength depending on time
of year.
So no more additives are needed ?
I tested some waste RO water today and the PH was 7.4 and 750 m/sm i was
thinking of using this waste water for my hydrofogger. Good or bad idea
or is it no better than tap water so waste of time using.
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Keith,
The stuff you do with rainwater is exactly correct with RO water.
Pay particular to the pH and buffering.
Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!
-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:57 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water
Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info
etc
..I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .
I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this
suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith

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RO waterThanks for your time Ray.
Still undecided , i think my feeding regime will suit RO , i am now concidering wether to switch rain to RO due to RO being cleaner as my rain storage is left standing ,impractical to clean out and i like the idea of not having to mess about collecting rain/knowing RO is there when i need it so it will not be left standing unused.
Putting feeding regime to one side , would you say RO is better for orchids than rain water .
Are you only using RO ?
Cheers
Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message news:[email protected]
I would think so.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com

Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, June 08, 2009 5:41 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water



Hi Ray , i may have been misunderstood , the 15 ml feed is a complete feed of 2-1-4 /trace ,the N added to make it

4-1-4 and Cal & Mg added as a suppliment .I mix all this together in 100 ml of water then gradually add this to 80 lt of rain water to the required strength depending on time of year then alter the ph between 6.1 -6.9 .

So if this was used with RO should it be o.k ?.

Regards Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:[email protected]

As I use a complete fertilizer formulation, I cannot comment on the additional stuff needed other than to say "make sure it's complete" (which those don't seem to be).



If your hydrofogger does not deposit any droplets on your plants, and you don't mind doing some periodic cleaning, the flush water ought to be OK. I use RO in mine, because it does and I do.



Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com

Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!



From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:59 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water



Hi Ray , so my regime should fit in ok .

I add 15ml feed, 5ml cal ,5ml sulphate of ammonia ,5 ml mag then add this gradually to 80 ltrs to get the required strength depending on time of year.

So no more additives are needed ?

I tested some waste RO water today and the PH was 7.4 and 750 m/sm i was thinking of using this waste water for my hydrofogger. Good or bad idea or is it no better than tap water so waste of time using.

Thanks Keith

"Ray B" wrote in message news:[email protected]

Keith,

The stuff you do with rainwater is exactly correct with RO water.

Pay particular to the pH and buffering.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:57 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info etc
.I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .

I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith

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RO, at least, is "controlled".

If you do a good job keeping up with filter and membrane changes (quite
infrequent), you KNOW you always have pure water. With rainwater, you
have to consider what it cleaned out of the atmosphere and off of the
collection surfaces.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:08 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Thanks for your time Ray.
Still undecided , i think my feeding regime will suit RO , i am now
concidering wether to switch rain to RO due to RO being cleaner as my
rain storage is left standing ,impractical to clean out and i like the
idea of not having to mess about collecting rain/knowing RO is there
when i need it so it will not be left standing unused.
Putting feeding regime to one side , would you say RO is better for
orchids than rain water .
Are you only using RO ?
Cheers
Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I would think so.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, June 08, 2009 5:41 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Hi Ray , i may have been misunderstood , the 15 ml feed is a complete
feed of 2-1-4 /trace ,the N added to make it
4-1-4 and Cal & Mg added as a suppliment .I mix all this together in
100 ml of water then gradually add this to 80 lt of rain water to the
required strength depending on time of year then alter the ph between
6.1 -6.9 .
So if this was used with RO should it be o.k ?.
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
As I use a complete fertilizer formulation, I cannot comment on the
additional stuff needed other than to say "make sure it's complete"
(which those don't seem to be).

If your hydrofogger does not deposit any droplets on your plants, and
you don't mind doing some periodic cleaning, the flush water ought to be
OK. I use RO in mine, because it does and I do.

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - http://www.firstrays.com
www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!

From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:59 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water

Hi Ray , so my regime should fit in ok .
I add 15ml feed, 5ml cal ,5ml sulphate of ammonia ,5 ml mag then add
this gradually to 80 ltrs to get the required strength depending on time
of year.
So no more additives are needed ?
I tested some waste RO water today and the PH was 7.4 and 750 m/sm i was
thinking of using this waste water for my hydrofogger. Good or bad idea
or is it no better than tap water so waste of time using.
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Keith,
The stuff you do with rainwater is exactly correct with RO water.
Pay particular to the pH and buffering.
Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info!
-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:57 PM
Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids
Conversation: RO water
Subject: RO water
Hi All !
I am concidering a Ro unit ,i have looked at the First Rays info
etc
..I know you can buy ready made fertilizer designed for use with pure
water,but don`t think this type of feed is available in the UK .
I add fertilizer ,and added Mg & Cal to my rain water so would this
suit RO
or is this not enough .
Any input appreciatted.
Regards Keith



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