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Two questions from a rank beginner
I've been lurking around since I received my first orchid on Mother's Day,
knowing that eventually I would have a question for you. Now, I actually have two: The first question regards a phalaenopsis that I received from my husband in early May. It looked very healthy, with two spikes and at least a dozen blooms, with some buds. I did a little research and put it on a coffee table where it would get indirect light from an eastern exposure but no direct sun. I watered in every few days, checking to make sure it wasn't getting too soggy. The flowers lasted through all of May and June, finally fading one at a time starting in early July. I still have 3 blooms left. I cut one of the spikes back when it lost its last bloom. One of the leaves is turning yellow starting from the base of the leaf. The other leaves look unaffected and perfectly healthy. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong and how to correct my error before any more damage occurs? The second question regards my second orchid. It is a dendrobium (Burana Wan) that had lost all its blooms and was looking a bit neglected. I got it at a local discount store for $4.99. I figure for that price I can try to help the poor thing. I put this one on a table facing a west window. There is an overhang, so it doesn't get much direct sun at all, but lots of light. It has some nice fat green little tubers??? or roots??? (I don't know what they are called sorry) coming from the bottom of one stem. They appear to be reaching for the medium. There is one stalk that has no growth at all. The other two have leaves that appear to be burned at the tips, and their color is a bit yellowish/green, otherwise they appear strong and thick. Can this orchid be saved? If so, how? Thanks for any help you can offer. I've gotten some books from the local library, but sometimes they give too much information. I just found myself getting confused. |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Welcome to our group Shea, you will get some great help here.
I can't help with indoor growing culture but the biggest killer is overwatering! Be very patient & remember that orchids take a while to grow, bloom & die! Cheers Wendy "Shea" wrote in message om... I've been lurking around since I received my first orchid on Mother's Day, knowing that eventually I would have a question for you. Now, I actually have two: The first question regards a phalaenopsis that I received from my husband in early May. It looked very healthy, with two spikes and at least a dozen blooms, with some buds. I did a little research and put it on a coffee table where it would get indirect light from an eastern exposure but no direct sun. I watered in every few days, checking to make sure it wasn't getting too soggy. The flowers lasted through all of May and June, finally fading one at a time starting in early July. I still have 3 blooms left. I cut one of the spikes back when it lost its last bloom. One of the leaves is turning yellow starting from the base of the leaf. The other leaves look unaffected and perfectly healthy. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong and how to correct my error before any more damage occurs? The second question regards my second orchid. It is a dendrobium (Burana Wan) that had lost all its blooms and was looking a bit neglected. I got it at a local discount store for $4.99. I figure for that price I can try to help the poor thing. I put this one on a table facing a west window. There is an overhang, so it doesn't get much direct sun at all, but lots of light. It has some nice fat green little tubers??? or roots??? (I don't know what they are called sorry) coming from the bottom of one stem. They appear to be reaching for the medium. There is one stalk that has no growth at all. The other two have leaves that appear to be burned at the tips, and their color is a bit yellowish/green, otherwise they appear strong and thick. Can this orchid be saved? If so, how? Thanks for any help you can offer. I've gotten some books from the local library, but sometimes they give too much information. I just found myself getting confused. |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Shea,
First of all, welcome to this wonderful addiction and the newsgroup! Never hesitate to ask anything. Loss of a lower leaf on a phal is a reasonably normal part of the growth process, and you should start seeing new leaves growing from the top soon. If it continues with other leaves, it may be a sign that the root system is compromised, usually indicating root rot due to overwatering and/or decomposing medium that is not allowing free air exchange to the root system. You'll have to be the judge of that, and can share more info if you want more advice in that arena. I would also suggest that the phal could probably be moved to somewhat brighter conditions. I picture the coffee table in the middle of the room, maybe ten feet from the window. If that's a good guess, then for all practical purposes, your plant is getting almost no light at all. Direct, early-morning sun is not too much for a phal, assuming it wouldn't get the direct sun all morning, so once it's stopped blooming, you can probably consider moving it closer to the window. The cooling effect of air conditioning actually helps that a bit. As to the dendrobium, I'm not a great source of info, so will let others take over, but it sounds like you're described new root growth, which is a good sign. The stalks of the dendrobium at pseudobulbs, which serve as storage vessels for water and nutrition for the whole plant, even long after they have bloomed and lost all of their leaves. Actually, each is its own plant, with the individuals joined via a rhizome. That is the typical growth habit of sympodial orchids, as opposed to the monopodial growth habit of the phalaenopsis. This I can tell you, though: more light! I see from your email address that you're in the Tampa area, so maybe transitioning it to full sun isn't a great idea, but up here in Pennsylvania, the 2 or three I have are up high in the greenhouse, getting almost full sun. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "Shea" wrote in message om... I've been lurking around since I received my first orchid on Mother's Day, knowing that eventually I would have a question for you. Now, I actually have two: The first question regards a phalaenopsis that I received from my husband in early May. It looked very healthy, with two spikes and at least a dozen blooms, with some buds. I did a little research and put it on a coffee table where it would get indirect light from an eastern exposure but no direct sun. I watered in every few days, checking to make sure it wasn't getting too soggy. The flowers lasted through all of May and June, finally fading one at a time starting in early July. I still have 3 blooms left. I cut one of the spikes back when it lost its last bloom. One of the leaves is turning yellow starting from the base of the leaf. The other leaves look unaffected and perfectly healthy. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong and how to correct my error before any more damage occurs? The second question regards my second orchid. It is a dendrobium (Burana Wan) that had lost all its blooms and was looking a bit neglected. I got it at a local discount store for $4.99. I figure for that price I can try to help the poor thing. I put this one on a table facing a west window. There is an overhang, so it doesn't get much direct sun at all, but lots of light. It has some nice fat green little tubers??? or roots??? (I don't know what they are called sorry) coming from the bottom of one stem. They appear to be reaching for the medium. There is one stalk that has no growth at all. The other two have leaves that appear to be burned at the tips, and their color is a bit yellowish/green, otherwise they appear strong and thick. Can this orchid be saved? If so, how? Thanks for any help you can offer. I've gotten some books from the local library, but sometimes they give too much information. I just found myself getting confused. |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Thank you, Wendy. I realized that I probably should have added that I live
in Florida. "Wendy" wrote in message news:BHcSa.5848$Ne.5551@fed1read03... Welcome to our group Shea, you will get some great help here. I can't help with indoor growing culture but the biggest killer is overwatering! Be very patient & remember that orchids take a while to grow, bloom & die! Cheers Wendy "Shea" wrote in message om... I've been lurking around since I received my first orchid on Mother's Day, knowing that eventually I would have a question for you. Now, I actually have two: The first question regards a phalaenopsis that I received from my husband in early May. It looked very healthy, with two spikes and at least a dozen blooms, with some buds. I did a little research and put it on a coffee table where it would get indirect light from an eastern exposure but no direct sun. I watered in every few days, checking to make sure it wasn't getting too soggy. The flowers lasted through all of May and June, finally fading one at a time starting in early July. I still have 3 blooms left. I cut one of the spikes back when it lost its last bloom. One of the leaves is turning yellow starting from the base of the leaf. The other leaves look unaffected and perfectly healthy. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong and how to correct my error before any more damage occurs? The second question regards my second orchid. It is a dendrobium (Burana Wan) that had lost all its blooms and was looking a bit neglected. I got it at a local discount store for $4.99. I figure for that price I can try to help the poor thing. I put this one on a table facing a west window. There is an overhang, so it doesn't get much direct sun at all, but lots of light. It has some nice fat green little tubers??? or roots??? (I don't know what they are called sorry) coming from the bottom of one stem. They appear to be reaching for the medium. There is one stalk that has no growth at all. The other two have leaves that appear to be burned at the tips, and their color is a bit yellowish/green, otherwise they appear strong and thick. Can this orchid be saved? If so, how? Thanks for any help you can offer. I've gotten some books from the local library, but sometimes they give too much information. I just found myself getting confused. |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Shea,
Ray has already given you great advice on the Phal, but here's my 2 cents on the Dend. We live over in Port St. Lucie, and our orchids live outside year round. If you have a screened in pool with good sun exposure, or a lanai or even a balcony where the Dend can live, you might want to move it outside gradually. Dends like high light conditions. If you move it out, though, don't leave it completely unprotected (as in full sun, no screening or other minimizer). As for the canes, unless they are in some way diseased, and it doesn't sound that way, leave them be. Dends can and often do bloom on bare canes. For both plants, if you have not already done so, a repotting is probably in order, if only to check the root systems. Amazing what fresh media can do! Best, Diana |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Diana, I have a Burana den- it is bare caned- got an idea when these get new
leaves. the plant has good roots but seems to be dormant. Got it in the winter at Kmart on the out of bloom shelf. What about feeding it? Might give it some super thrive to give it a jump start Diane "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message hlink.net... Shea, Ray has already given you great advice on the Phal, but here's my 2 cents on the Dend. We live over in Port St. Lucie, and our orchids live outside year round. If you have a screened in pool with good sun exposure, or a lanai or even a balcony where the Dend can live, you might want to move it outside gradually. Dends like high light conditions. If you move it out, though, don't leave it completely unprotected (as in full sun, no screening or other minimizer). As for the canes, unless they are in some way diseased, and it doesn't sound that way, leave them be. Dends can and often do bloom on bare canes. For both plants, if you have not already done so, a repotting is probably in order, if only to check the root systems. Amazing what fresh media can do! Best, Diana |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Diana, I have a Burana den- it is bare caned- got an idea when these get new
leaves. the plant has good roots but seems to be dormant. Got it in the winter at Kmart on the out of bloom shelf. What about feeding it? Might give it some super thrive to give it a jump start Diane "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message hlink.net... Shea, Ray has already given you great advice on the Phal, but here's my 2 cents on the Dend. We live over in Port St. Lucie, and our orchids live outside year round. If you have a screened in pool with good sun exposure, or a lanai or even a balcony where the Dend can live, you might want to move it outside gradually. Dends like high light conditions. If you move it out, though, don't leave it completely unprotected (as in full sun, no screening or other minimizer). As for the canes, unless they are in some way diseased, and it doesn't sound that way, leave them be. Dends can and often do bloom on bare canes. For both plants, if you have not already done so, a repotting is probably in order, if only to check the root systems. Amazing what fresh media can do! Best, Diana |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Diana, I have a Burana den- it is bare caned- got an idea when these get new
leaves. the plant has good roots but seems to be dormant. Got it in the winter at Kmart on the out of bloom shelf. What about feeding it? Might give it some super thrive to give it a jump start Diane "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message hlink.net... Shea, Ray has already given you great advice on the Phal, but here's my 2 cents on the Dend. We live over in Port St. Lucie, and our orchids live outside year round. If you have a screened in pool with good sun exposure, or a lanai or even a balcony where the Dend can live, you might want to move it outside gradually. Dends like high light conditions. If you move it out, though, don't leave it completely unprotected (as in full sun, no screening or other minimizer). As for the canes, unless they are in some way diseased, and it doesn't sound that way, leave them be. Dends can and often do bloom on bare canes. For both plants, if you have not already done so, a repotting is probably in order, if only to check the root systems. Amazing what fresh media can do! Best, Diana |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
This is great information. Thanks so much. I'll move the phal closer to
the light. The coffee table is about 6 ft. from the sliding doors, but since the doors lead to a covered screened porch, you are probably right about the light. Also, it has been a crummy summer sunshine-wise. I'll move it over here to my desk, which is right in front of a window overlooking the port (eastern exposure). Ray, you helped a lot and put my mind at ease on the leaf. It is definitely only the one. I will watch the sunlight, though. Down here plants that normally need "full sun" can sometimes literally burn to a crisp if we follow that rule. As for the dendrobium, I'm in the process of moving it closer to outside. I'll eventually put it on the screened porch. Getting the input from a fellow Floridian on this was invaluable! Thanks so much, Diana! I have a niece who works for St. Lucie county, by the way (and let's go Mets). I'll be shopping for new medium and a fertilizer for my babies. Thanks again. I'll keep reading and learning from you great people. "Diane Mancino" wrote in message ... Diana, I have a Burana den- it is bare caned- got an idea when these get new leaves. the plant has good roots but seems to be dormant. Got it in the winter at Kmart on the out of bloom shelf. What about feeding it? Might give it some super thrive to give it a jump start Diane "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message hlink.net... Shea, Ray has already given you great advice on the Phal, but here's my 2 cents on the Dend. We live over in Port St. Lucie, and our orchids live outside year round. If you have a screened in pool with good sun exposure, or a lanai or even a balcony where the Dend can live, you might want to move it outside gradually. Dends like high light conditions. If you move it out, though, don't leave it completely unprotected (as in full sun, no screening or other minimizer). As for the canes, unless they are in some way diseased, and it doesn't sound that way, leave them be. Dends can and often do bloom on bare canes. For both plants, if you have not already done so, a repotting is probably in order, if only to check the root systems. Amazing what fresh media can do! Best, Diana |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
I've progressed to actually putting the Dendrobium outside. I introduced it
to my other "orphan" - a mostly dead jade plant that Walmart was practically giving away. It is now in the best of health and growing like crazy. They seem to be getting along quite well, so I have high hopes. The yellow leaf finally fell off the Phal. I'm trying to give it more light. This is difficult lately since we've had stormy days nearly constantly this summer. I guess the artificial light of indoors helps. I would put it outside also, but I'm not sure if this would be a good move. It is awfully hot. "Diane Mancino" wrote in message ... I like the term "antelope type Dendrobium" At least on the cork mount it is interesting to look at out of bloom. Put a few together for some wall art ( maybe no one will count how many plants), I'll keep giving them care- I guess right now is the time to water away. It's nice to let the rain showers do my work. I'm reading about moss- I have tons of it in my yard, I'm sure its full of bugs though and don't know if it would thrive in the house. Diane "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message thlink.net... Diane, Burana kids are pretty hardy Dends. Important to know that the bare canes will not grow new leaves but may flower anyway; you'll get new canes growing from the bottom (off the rhizome). Sometimes our *rescue* plants (oh, yes, I do it too!) need some time to recover before starting to grow again, and if everything else looks good that's probably what's happening. Lots of light and the usual Dend culture will pay off in the end. I went to a sale about 8 months ago, a sad case where the plant owner was very ill and a mutual friend was selling the collection for him, and took pity on a $4 Dend that was near to death. It hasn't bloomed yet, but it has new growth and will be okay. Patience! Diana |
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Shea,
My instincts tell me we cant do wrong in the summer since the dends like a good watering ( well draining medium of course). Normal weather you will have your dry days and wet days. gradually move into a sunny spot on a dend- they like light and feed 2x a month in the summer. Remember you can get a sunburn on a cloudy day- the sun is there. Its like a summer break from all those trips to the sink. I damaged a plant on a unusually hot day that I should have shaded. I'd watch for the unusual- like hale and high winds. bummer when a plant falls to the ground and gets broken I've only been growing these for the past year myself, so I haven't seen the annual cycle on my dends. it will be a real treat to see what I have developed with a years worth of care. If anyone has taken a orchid out of rainy weather it would be interesting to hear. "Shea" wrote in message om... I've progressed to actually putting the Dendrobium outside. I introduced it to my other "orphan" - a mostly dead jade plant that Walmart was practically giving away. It is now in the best of health and growing like crazy. They seem to be getting along quite well, so I have high hopes. The yellow leaf finally fell off the Phal. I'm trying to give it more light. This is difficult lately since we've had stormy days nearly constantly this summer. I guess the artificial light of indoors helps. I would put it outside also, but I'm not sure if this would be a good move. It is awfully hot. "Diane Mancino" wrote in message ... I like the term "antelope type Dendrobium" At least on the cork mount it is interesting to look at out of bloom. Put a few together for some wall art ( maybe no one will count how many plants), I'll keep giving them care- I guess right now is the time to water away. It's nice to let the rain showers do my work. I'm reading about moss- I have tons of it in my yard, I'm sure its full of bugs though and don't know if it would thrive in the house. Diane "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message thlink.net... Diane, Burana kids are pretty hardy Dends. Important to know that the bare canes will not grow new leaves but may flower anyway; you'll get new canes growing from the bottom (off the rhizome). Sometimes our *rescue* plants (oh, yes, I do it too!) need some time to recover before starting to grow again, and if everything else looks good that's probably what's happening. Lots of light and the usual Dend culture will pay off in the end. I went to a sale about 8 months ago, a sad case where the plant owner was very ill and a mutual friend was selling the collection for him, and took pity on a $4 Dend that was near to death. It hasn't bloomed yet, but it has new growth and will be okay. Patience! Diana |
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My Dends need to put up with whatever the weather dictates, unless we have a
winter like last year (cold, cold, cold), when I foolishly took them in. Better to have left them outside but semi protected (against the house, perhaps). Now, I have too many to cart around, so am looking at ways to warm their area if it gets cold next winter. In general, Dends are the most forgiving of all my genera. I grow them in rock or Aliflor, with the exception of the hirstute Dends, which have made it know n that they want more moisture (yes, they talk to me). Growing in a fast drying medium works well in FL, for Dends and Catts. I know it's different in other climates. Remember, in nature it doesn't necessarily rain every Tuesday............. Diana |
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Diana,
You have a benefit of being able to keep your plants out year long-I get the benefit of the great variety of temperature- minus 20, don't think my collection could take the wintering, but we do have native orchids here. Some of the orchids need that temp drop-cymbidiums are a favorite up here. You do get that occasional freeze in Fl. I guess those days you dine in front of the TV while you fill the table up with pots. Diana Kulaga" wrote in message rthlink.net... My Dends need to put up with whatever the weather dictates, unless we have a winter like last year (cold, cold, cold), when I foolishly took them in. Better to have left them outside but semi protected (against the house, perhaps). Now, I have too many to cart around, so am looking at ways to warm their area if it gets cold next winter. In general, Dends are the most forgiving of all my genera. I grow them in rock or Aliflor, with the exception of the hirstute Dends, which have made it know n that they want more moisture (yes, they talk to me). Growing in a fast drying medium works well in FL, for Dends and Catts. I know it's different in other climates. Remember, in nature it doesn't necessarily rain every Tuesday............. Diana |
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Two questions from a rank beginner
Speaking of hirstute Dends, my Green Lantern has 2 keikis that I thought
were new shoots. Is this another dend that likes to make keikis or was it my care. "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message rthlink.net... My Dends need to put up with whatever the weather dictates, unless we have a winter like last year (cold, cold, cold), when I foolishly took them in. Better to have left them outside but semi protected (against the house, perhaps). Now, I have too many to cart around, so am looking at ways to warm their area if it gets cold next winter. In general, Dends are the most forgiving of all my genera. I grow them in rock or Aliflor, with the exception of the hirstute Dends, which have made it know n that they want more moisture (yes, they talk to me). Growing in a fast drying medium works well in FL, for Dends and Catts. I know it's different in other climates. Remember, in nature it doesn't necessarily rain every Tuesday............. Diana |
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"Shea" wrote in message .com...
This is great information. Thanks so much. I'll move the phal closer to the light. The coffee table is about 6 ft. from the sliding doors, but since the doors lead to a covered screened porch, you are probably right about the light. Also, it has been a crummy summer sunshine-wise. If you have a covered, screened porch, I would move the Phalaenopsis out there. Just put it on the side of the porch that gets the least direct sun. IIRC insect netting acts roughly like 50% shade cloth, but even so, direct sun will be too much for a Phal. The Phalaenopsis will greatly appreciate the increased humidity outdoors at this time of year, and you may see much better root growth. If you leave it out in the porch until night temperatures start to drop into the 50's this autumn, you may well get better flower production next year. Nick -- |
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