Ok,
I'm planning a trip to Ecuador in 2005. End of augaut beginning of
september.
What I would like to know are some basic tips. It's going to become a real
orchid hunt, just to see what I can find. My Aunt works at the Belgium
embassy and should be able to arange the needed paperwork.
I was thinking about one week at an altitude of 2900. Being Quito. My aunt
lives there and outside the city I saw a lot of orchids when I went in 1992.
Later a week at the coast there's a lot of forest there and a different
climat an last but not least one week in the jungle. There a belgian monk
living at a small mission just outside the jungle and he's a good friend of
my aunt.
My budget is going to be 2500Euro(=dollar) and I'm hoping to find one or
two experienced travelers to come along. Splitting the costs and helping
eachother in case of trouble. Also hoping that a niece or cousin can help
with the language.
That's the basic Idea.

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.
Cheers
Peter

Boystrup Pb, ann,... wrote:

Ok,
I'm planning a trip to Ecuador in 2005. End of augaut beginning of
september.
What I would like to know are some basic tips. It's going to become a real
orchid hunt, just to see what I can find. My Aunt works at the Belgium
embassy and should be able to arange the needed paperwork.
I was thinking about one week at an altitude of 2900. Being Quito. My aunt
lives there and outside the city I saw a lot of orchids when I went in 1992.
Later a week at the coast there's a lot of forest there and a different
climat an last but not least one week in the jungle. There a belgian monk
living at a small mission just outside the jungle and he's a good friend of
my aunt.
My budget is going to be 2500Euro(=dollar) and I'm hoping to find one or
two experienced travelers to come along. Splitting the costs and helping
eachother in case of trouble. Also hoping that a niece or cousin can help
with the language.
That's the basic Idea.



You might want to contact Pepe Portillo at Ecuagenera
(http://ecuagenera.com/). He would be an excellent resource for your
trip. They also offer orchid habitat tours, and I want to go sometime.
If I recall properly, they have bought several acres at several
different elevations in some very prime locations, and much if not all
of the tours are at their own properties. Pepe's English is quite good,
and he is a nice guy.


--

Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:46:43 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.

You might contact these people about orchid hunting and its
requirements:

http://www.plantadventures.com/

Plant Tour to Guatemala and Belize

December 3 - 16, 2003


We will be exploring the countries of Guatemala and Belize to explore
and observe exciting species of Orchids, Bromeliads, Heliconias,
Cacti, Aroids, Ferns, and many other exotic tropical plants. We will
be covering a wide range of climates and terrain changes as well as a
river trips on the Rio Dulce in Guatemala and Punta Gorda, Belize.
Plant specialists will be part of trip to assist in the identification
of plants. It will be an exciting adventure for all. The trip is
designed for a small group for all to have a great time, lots of fun,
and of course plants!

This will be a unique opportunity to visit both Guatemala and Belize.
The itinerary has been arranged so that one can visit Guatemala or
Belize or both countries. In addition the first part of the trip will
be a optional tour to Antigua Guatemala, Chichicastenango and Lago de
Atitlan.

The price of the trip as follows:

$1,450 USD for Guatemala
$1,950 USD for Belize
$3,195 USD for both Guatemala and Belize
$450 USD for optional tour to Antigua and Lago de Atitlan.
A 50% deposit is required by October 21st and the balance is due on
arrival in Guatemala or Belize (Cash or certified check only). The
cost of the trip includes all your meals, double-room hotel
accommodations, transportation and all the fun you can have. The trip
costs does not include your airfare, $20 USD Belize departure tax,
liquor, and souvenirs, etc… Single room accommodations can be arranged
at a higher rate.

Please send your deposit to…

Sun South, Inc.
P.O. Box 767002
Roswell, GA 30076

We are limiting the group to 10 – 12 people so please act quickly. We
can provide great references from botanical gardens and past
adventurers. You must bring a smile, camera with plenty of film and a
desire to have a great time and an adventurous trip in two beautiful
countries with friendly people.

For more information about this trip click here to get on our mailing
list.



--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

Peter, you are so lucky to be able to do this. Be sure to take lots of
pictures for us please! *G*
Cheers Wendy

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
Ok,
I'm planning a trip to Ecuador in 2005. End of augaut beginning of
september.
What I would like to know are some basic tips. It's going to become a real
orchid hunt, just to see what I can find. My Aunt works at the Belgium
embassy and should be able to arange the needed paperwork.
I was thinking about one week at an altitude of 2900. Being Quito. My aunt
lives there and outside the city I saw a lot of orchids when I went in
1992.
Later a week at the coast there's a lot of forest there and a different
climat an last but not least one week in the jungle. There a belgian monk
living at a small mission just outside the jungle and he's a good friend
of
my aunt.
My budget is going to be 2500Euro(=dollar) and I'm hoping to find one or
two experienced travelers to come along. Splitting the costs and helping
eachother in case of trouble. Also hoping that a niece or cousin can help
with the language.
That's the basic Idea.

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.
Cheers
Peter

How about you came along.
I'm looking for two or three people for this trip. It's not going to be
luxurious, just improvising and traveling around. Looking at tourist
atractions whenever we see them and especially looking for orchids. If
possible take a few home with us.
Just having fun and perhaps getting to know a few orchid hobbyists.

To the rest of you thanks for the responses.
Cheers
Peter

"Wendy" schreef in bericht
news:TW07b.120308$kP.7392@fed1read03...
Peter, you are so lucky to be able to do this. Be sure to take lots of
pictures for us please! *G*
Cheers Wendy

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
Ok,
I'm planning a trip to Ecuador in 2005. End of augaut beginning of
september.
What I would like to know are some basic tips. It's going to become a
real
orchid hunt, just to see what I can find. My Aunt works at the Belgium
embassy and should be able to arange the needed paperwork.
I was thinking about one week at an altitude of 2900. Being Quito. My
aunt
lives there and outside the city I saw a lot of orchids when I went in
1992.
Later a week at the coast there's a lot of forest there and a different
climat an last but not least one week in the jungle. There a belgian
monk
living at a small mission just outside the jungle and he's a good friend
of
my aunt.
My budget is going to be 2500Euro(=dollar) and I'm hoping to find one
or
two experienced travelers to come along. Splitting the costs and helping
eachother in case of trouble. Also hoping that a niece or cousin can
help
with the language.
That's the basic Idea.

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.
Cheers
Peter

This sounds like great fun, just one probleme. Still have to save for my
trip in 2005.
I already have a vacationjob for the next 3 years. So I know I'll have the
monny by then.
Just don't have it now.
Thanks for the invitation
Cheers
Peter

"Larry Dighera" schreef in bericht
...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:46:43 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.

You might contact these people about orchid hunting and its
requirements:

http://www.plantadventures.com/

Plant Tour to Guatemala and Belize

December 3 - 16, 2003


We will be exploring the countries of Guatemala and Belize to explore
and observe exciting species of Orchids, Bromeliads, Heliconias,
Cacti, Aroids, Ferns, and many other exotic tropical plants. We will
be covering a wide range of climates and terrain changes as well as a
river trips on the Rio Dulce in Guatemala and Punta Gorda, Belize.
Plant specialists will be part of trip to assist in the identification
of plants. It will be an exciting adventure for all. The trip is
designed for a small group for all to have a great time, lots of fun,
and of course plants!

This will be a unique opportunity to visit both Guatemala and Belize.
The itinerary has been arranged so that one can visit Guatemala or
Belize or both countries. In addition the first part of the trip will
be a optional tour to Antigua Guatemala, Chichicastenango and Lago de
Atitlan.

The price of the trip as follows:

$1,450 USD for Guatemala
$1,950 USD for Belize
$3,195 USD for both Guatemala and Belize
$450 USD for optional tour to Antigua and Lago de Atitlan.
A 50% deposit is required by October 21st and the balance is due on
arrival in Guatemala or Belize (Cash or certified check only). The
cost of the trip includes all your meals, double-room hotel
accommodations, transportation and all the fun you can have. The trip
costs does not include your airfare, $20 USD Belize departure tax,
liquor, and souvenirs, etc. Single room accommodations can be arranged
at a higher rate.

Please send your deposit to.

Sun South, Inc.
P.O. Box 767002
Roswell, GA 30076

We are limiting the group to 10 - 12 people so please act quickly. We
can provide great references from botanical gardens and past
adventurers. You must bring a smile, camera with plenty of film and a
desire to have a great time and an adventurous trip in two beautiful
countries with friendly people.

For more information about this trip click here to get on our mailing
list.



--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

Thanks for the invitation Peter, if I was 40 years younger I would do it!
Cheers Wendy
"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
. be...
How about you came along.
I'm looking for two or three people for this trip. It's not going to be
luxurious, just improvising and traveling around. Looking at tourist
atractions whenever we see them and especially looking for orchids. If
possible take a few home with us.
Just having fun and perhaps getting to know a few orchid hobbyists.

To the rest of you thanks for the responses.
Cheers
Peter

"Wendy" schreef in bericht
news:TW07b.120308$kP.7392@fed1read03...
Peter, you are so lucky to be able to do this. Be sure to take lots of
pictures for us please! *G*
Cheers Wendy

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
Ok,
I'm planning a trip to Ecuador in 2005. End of augaut beginning of
september.
What I would like to know are some basic tips. It's going to become a
real
orchid hunt, just to see what I can find. My Aunt works at the Belgium
embassy and should be able to arange the needed paperwork.
I was thinking about one week at an altitude of 2900. Being Quito. My
aunt
lives there and outside the city I saw a lot of orchids when I went in
1992.
Later a week at the coast there's a lot of forest there and a
different
climat an last but not least one week in the jungle. There a belgian
monk
living at a small mission just outside the jungle and he's a good
friend
of
my aunt.
My budget is going to be 2500Euro(=dollar) and I'm hoping to find
one
or
two experienced travelers to come along. Splitting the costs and
helping
eachother in case of trouble. Also hoping that a niece or cousin can
help
with the language.
That's the basic Idea.

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.
Cheers
Peter

Peter,

I, too, envy you. Would love to go to Ecuador and also to the
Galapagos. We did not get this side trip when we went to Costa
Rica/Panama/Columbia. It sounds really exciting. I know it will be a
journey of a lifetime.

.. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System
http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html

--------------------------------------


Wendy wrote:

Peter, you are so lucky to be able to do this. Be sure to take lots of
pictures for us please! *G*
Cheers Wendy

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
Ok,
I'm planning a trip to Ecuador in 2005. End of augaut beginning of
september.
What I would like to know are some basic tips. It's going to become a real
orchid hunt, just to see what I can find. My Aunt works at the Belgium
embassy and should be able to arange the needed paperwork.
I was thinking about one week at an altitude of 2900. Being Quito. My aunt
lives there and outside the city I saw a lot of orchids when I went in
1992.
Later a week at the coast there's a lot of forest there and a different
climat an last but not least one week in the jungle. There a belgian monk
living at a small mission just outside the jungle and he's a good friend
of
my aunt.
My budget is going to be 2500Euro(=dollar) and I'm hoping to find one or
two experienced travelers to come along. Splitting the costs and helping
eachother in case of trouble. Also hoping that a niece or cousin can help
with the language.
That's the basic Idea.

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.
Cheers
Peter

"Larry Dighera" schreef in bericht
.. .
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:46:43 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.

You might contact these people about orchid hunting and its
requirements:

http://www.plantadventures.com/

Plant Tour to Guatemala and Belize

December 3 - 16, 2003


We will be exploring the countries of Guatemala and Belize to explore
and observe exciting species of Orchids, Bromeliads, Heliconias,
Cacti, Aroids, Ferns, and many other exotic tropical plants. We will
be covering a wide range of climates and terrain changes as well as a
river trips on the Rio Dulce in Guatemala and Punta Gorda, Belize.
Plant specialists will be part of trip to assist in the identification
of plants. It will be an exciting adventure for all. The trip is
designed for a small group for all to have a great time, lots of fun,
and of course plants!

This will be a unique opportunity to visit both Guatemala and Belize.
The itinerary has been arranged so that one can visit Guatemala or
Belize or both countries. In addition the first part of the trip will
be a optional tour to Antigua Guatemala, Chichicastenango and Lago de
Atitlan.

The price of the trip as follows:

$1,450 USD for Guatemala
$1,950 USD for Belize
$3,195 USD for both Guatemala and Belize
$450 USD for optional tour to Antigua and Lago de Atitlan.
A 50% deposit is required by October 21st and the balance is due on
arrival in Guatemala or Belize (Cash or certified check only). The
cost of the trip includes all your meals, double-room hotel
accommodations, transportation and all the fun you can have. The trip
costs does not include your airfare, $20 USD Belize departure tax,
liquor, and souvenirs, etc. Single room accommodations can be arranged
at a higher rate.

Please send your deposit to.

Sun South, Inc.
P.O. Box 767002
Roswell, GA 30076

We are limiting the group to 10 - 12 people so please act quickly. We
can provide great references from botanical gardens and past
adventurers. You must bring a smile, camera with plenty of film and a
desire to have a great time and an adventurous trip in two beautiful
countries with friendly people.

For more information about this trip click here to get on our mailing
list.

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:41:08 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

This sounds like great fun, just one probleme. Still have to save for my
trip in 2005.
I already have a vacationjob for the next 3 years. So I know I'll have the
monny by then.
Just don't have it now.
Thanks for the invitation
Cheers
Peter


Just to provide another tour operator to the thread:

Orchid Tours to Mexico:
http://www.abundaflora.com/orchid%20tour.htm

Don't miss the photos on this web site.



--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

Larry, I say go!!!! But only if you have the legs? *G*
http://www.plantadventures.com/PastT.../DSC06048.html
I would go in a New York minute if it was guaranteed that I see the orchid
on the left of this photo!*G*

No, seriously, if you have the time & the money GO! I wish I could?
There must be a webpage out there with info on what to take & do etc.?
Definitely lots of photos, waterproof camera bag, extra cards if digital or
even a laptop with CD's
Bug repellant & water bottle.
Cheers Wendy


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

"Larry Dighera" schreef in bericht
.. .
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:46:43 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.

You might contact these people about orchid hunting and its
requirements:

http://www.plantadventures.com/

Plant Tour to Guatemala and Belize

December 3 - 16, 2003


We will be exploring the countries of Guatemala and Belize to explore
and observe exciting species of Orchids, Bromeliads, Heliconias,
Cacti, Aroids, Ferns, and many other exotic tropical plants. We will
be covering a wide range of climates and terrain changes as well as a
river trips on the Rio Dulce in Guatemala and Punta Gorda, Belize.
Plant specialists will be part of trip to assist in the identification
of plants. It will be an exciting adventure for all. The trip is
designed for a small group for all to have a great time, lots of fun,
and of course plants!

This will be a unique opportunity to visit both Guatemala and Belize.
The itinerary has been arranged so that one can visit Guatemala or
Belize or both countries. In addition the first part of the trip will
be a optional tour to Antigua Guatemala, Chichicastenango and Lago de
Atitlan.

The price of the trip as follows:

$1,450 USD for Guatemala
$1,950 USD for Belize
$3,195 USD for both Guatemala and Belize
$450 USD for optional tour to Antigua and Lago de Atitlan.
A 50% deposit is required by October 21st and the balance is due on
arrival in Guatemala or Belize (Cash or certified check only). The
cost of the trip includes all your meals, double-room hotel
accommodations, transportation and all the fun you can have. The trip
costs does not include your airfare, $20 USD Belize departure tax,
liquor, and souvenirs, etc. Single room accommodations can be arranged
at a higher rate.

Please send your deposit to.

Sun South, Inc.
P.O. Box 767002
Roswell, GA 30076

We are limiting the group to 10 - 12 people so please act quickly. We
can provide great references from botanical gardens and past
adventurers. You must bring a smile, camera with plenty of film and a
desire to have a great time and an adventurous trip in two beautiful
countries with friendly people.

For more information about this trip click here to get on our mailing
list.

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:41:08 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

This sounds like great fun, just one probleme. Still have to save for my
trip in 2005.
I already have a vacationjob for the next 3 years. So I know I'll have
the
monny by then.
Just don't have it now.
Thanks for the invitation
Cheers
Peter


Just to provide another tour operator to the thread:

Orchid Tours to Mexico:
http://www.abundaflora.com/orchid%20tour.htm

Don't miss the photos on this web site.



--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

I went to Costa Rica two years ago. I agree with the previous posts
about "necessary items." I'd add these: diarhea medication,
water-purifier tablets, bandages and Bactine for cuts and blisters,
quick-dry clothing and underwear, a small bottle of laundry detergent,
more sox than you think you'll need (BTW, Thorlo socks are wonderful
and provide a lot of cushion if you're hiking), Afterbite for bug bite
itching, a cheap rain poncho, Ziploc bags, and a face cloth (some
hotels don't supply these because they are considered to be an item of
personal hygiene). By the way, doing laundry in some parts of Central
America is not easy and very expensive. Because of the humidity, it can
take clothing forever to dry--thus the recommendation for extra
socks--hiking boots and wet socks = blisters; sandles with no socks =
scorpion and chigger bites. If you sleep overnight in a jungle, be sure
to knock out your boots before you put them on in the morning--chances
are that a scorpion might be hiding in one.

BTW, it was the best trip of my life, and I'm a girly girl and not
inclined to discomfort or roughing it.

DD




In article nXzhb.67190$Ms2.7294@fed1read03, Wendy
wrote:

Larry, I say go!!!! But only if you have the legs? *G*
http://www.plantadventures.com/PastT.../DSC06048.html
I would go in a New York minute if it was guaranteed that I see the orchid
on the left of this photo!*G*

No, seriously, if you have the time & the money GO! I wish I could?
There must be a webpage out there with info on what to take & do etc.?
Definitely lots of photos, waterproof camera bag, extra cards if digital or
even a laptop with CD's
Bug repellant & water bottle.
Cheers Wendy


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

"Larry Dighera" schreef in bericht
.. .
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:46:43 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.

You might contact these people about orchid hunting and its
requirements:

When I go -

I put a days underthings in a ziplock and get all the air out. Then I
Duct tape it shut over the zipper. I put an extra pair of socks for each
day in their own ziplocks and get the air out...

I worry much less about outer clothes. Cotton is the best in my
experience...It can be washed anywhere and will wear well.

For boots - get Neats foot oil and oil them daily for 4 or 5 days prior
to going if they are leather - it will help keep the feet drier.

Good luck.

Doug

In article ,
dd wrote:

I went to Costa Rica two years ago. I agree with the previous posts
about "necessary items." I'd add these: diarhea medication,
water-purifier tablets, bandages and Bactine for cuts and blisters,
quick-dry clothing and underwear, a small bottle of laundry detergent,
more sox than you think you'll need (BTW, Thorlo socks are wonderful
and provide a lot of cushion if you're hiking), Afterbite for bug bite
itching, a cheap rain poncho, Ziploc bags, and a face cloth (some
hotels don't supply these because they are considered to be an item of
personal hygiene). By the way, doing laundry in some parts of Central
America is not easy and very expensive. Because of the humidity, it can
take clothing forever to dry--thus the recommendation for extra
socks--hiking boots and wet socks = blisters; sandles with no socks =
scorpion and chigger bites. If you sleep overnight in a jungle, be sure
to knock out your boots before you put them on in the morning--chances
are that a scorpion might be hiding in one.

BTW, it was the best trip of my life, and I'm a girly girl and not
inclined to discomfort or roughing it.

DD




In article nXzhb.67190$Ms2.7294@fed1read03, Wendy
wrote:

Larry, I say go!!!! But only if you have the legs? *G*
http://www.plantadventures.com/PastT.../DSC06048.html
I would go in a New York minute if it was guaranteed that I see the orchid
on the left of this photo!*G*

No, seriously, if you have the time & the money GO! I wish I could?
There must be a webpage out there with info on what to take & do etc.?
Definitely lots of photos, waterproof camera bag, extra cards if digital or
even a laptop with CD's
Bug repellant & water bottle.
Cheers Wendy


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

"Larry Dighera" schreef in bericht
.. .
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:46:43 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or think off.

You might contact these people about orchid hunting and its
requirements:

THanks
For all the tips
I'm already making a list of do's an do not's
Cheers
Peter

"doug houseman" schreef in bericht
...
When I go -

I put a days underthings in a ziplock and get all the air out. Then I
Duct tape it shut over the zipper. I put an extra pair of socks for each
day in their own ziplocks and get the air out...

I worry much less about outer clothes. Cotton is the best in my
experience...It can be washed anywhere and will wear well.

For boots - get Neats foot oil and oil them daily for 4 or 5 days prior
to going if they are leather - it will help keep the feet drier.

Good luck.

Doug

In article ,
dd wrote:

I went to Costa Rica two years ago. I agree with the previous posts
about "necessary items." I'd add these: diarhea medication,
water-purifier tablets, bandages and Bactine for cuts and blisters,
quick-dry clothing and underwear, a small bottle of laundry detergent,
more sox than you think you'll need (BTW, Thorlo socks are wonderful
and provide a lot of cushion if you're hiking), Afterbite for bug bite
itching, a cheap rain poncho, Ziploc bags, and a face cloth (some
hotels don't supply these because they are considered to be an item of
personal hygiene). By the way, doing laundry in some parts of Central
America is not easy and very expensive. Because of the humidity, it can
take clothing forever to dry--thus the recommendation for extra
socks--hiking boots and wet socks = blisters; sandles with no socks =
scorpion and chigger bites. If you sleep overnight in a jungle, be sure
to knock out your boots before you put them on in the morning--chances
are that a scorpion might be hiding in one.

BTW, it was the best trip of my life, and I'm a girly girl and not
inclined to discomfort or roughing it.

DD




In article nXzhb.67190$Ms2.7294@fed1read03, Wendy
wrote:

Larry, I say go!!!! But only if you have the legs? *G*
http://www.plantadventures.com/PastT.../DSC06048.html
I would go in a New York minute if it was guaranteed that I see the
orchid
on the left of this photo!*G*

No, seriously, if you have the time & the money GO! I wish I
could?
There must be a webpage out there with info on what to take & do etc.?
Definitely lots of photos, waterproof camera bag, extra cards if
digital or
even a laptop with CD's
Bug repellant & water bottle.
Cheers Wendy


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

"Larry Dighera" schreef in bericht
.. .
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:46:43 +0200, "Boystrup Pb, ann,..."
wrote in Message-Id:
:

So what do you think and any tips what I should remember or
think off.

You might contact these people about orchid hunting and its
requirements: