hi everyone I am sure I am not the only one receiving Microsoft's security
updates(viruses as Microsoft don't email to tell you of updates)I am getting
hundreds a day, among other Spam mail,returned mail that I haven't sent!
I now this isn't about orchids,but this issue needs looking at!is there
anyway I can get my email address not to be shown after a posted
message,your email address should be private unless you want to give it
out!I have had to create more email addresses,& cancel my original.The only
way around this I can think of is to create a new email address,private one
only give it out to trusted parties.keep the original for newsgroups etc!
thanks keith

Hi keith,

It is a real pain as it is such a waste of time
with virus risks too. There are a lot of us out
there bugged by this problem.
This does not directly answer your question re
this newsgroup but the following may help.

I have tried a number of approaches including
software such as 'I-hate-Spam'
with various degrees of success, but you still
waste time downloading them.

You could put up a filter system which you visit
prior to opening emails when you start getting
blitzed.
That seems to block out a lot as you can just view
the headers and decide then if you want to delete
or not. Then only those permitted will arrive at
your computer.
I use the program 'Email Remover' version 3. which
is a free trial version.
http://www.eremover.bizhosting.com

If that link does not work try searching Google
for Email Remover - lots of views on this software
there.
Good luck
Alan



"keith" wrote in
message
...
hi everyone I am sure I am not the only one
receiving Microsoft's security
updates(viruses as Microsoft don't email to tell
you of updates)I am getting
hundreds a day, among other Spam mail,returned
mail that I haven't sent!
I now this isn't about orchids,but this issue
needs looking at!is there
anyway I can get my email address not to be
shown after a posted
message,your email address should be private
unless you want to give it
out!I have had to create more email addresses,&
cancel my original.The only
way around this I can think of is to create a
new email address,private one
only give it out to trusted parties.keep the
original for newsgroups etc!
thanks keith

Hoi, Keith I hope you haven't sent me any mails because I'm not getting
anything except viruses for the moment, since 18september, and I'm getting a
serious cramp from deleting messages.
I'll be changing my E-mail adress and find a way to post without revieling
it on the groups. So if anyone want's my adress in the future it will be by
postalservice (letter) or telephone. I won't be responding to anything
untill I've figured out a sollution.
Cheers
Peter

"keith" schreef in bericht
...
hi everyone I am sure I am not the only one receiving Microsoft's security
updates(viruses as Microsoft don't email to tell you of updates)I am
getting
hundreds a day, among other Spam mail,returned mail that I haven't sent!
I now this isn't about orchids,but this issue needs looking at!is there
anyway I can get my email address not to be shown after a posted
message,your email address should be private unless you want to give it
out!I have had to create more email addresses,& cancel my original.The
only
way around this I can think of is to create a new email address,private
one
only give it out to trusted parties.keep the original for newsgroups etc!
thanks keith

I, too, have received several hundred of these. As a result, I upgraded my
antivirus software and installed additional internet security and anti-spam
programming [Norton Internet Security 2004]. So far, it seems to be working
well [today's virus scan with virus definitions updated earlier today
pronounced my computer 'clean' and the anti-spam feature is working a lot
better than the Outlook Express message rules did]. I will be checking the
spam folder before I empty it, to avoid deleting unread mail I actually want
to receive, at least for a while.

But I would suggest that all of us, if sending private emails to others who
post here, use very specific subject lines, to help each other avoid
deleting good mail along with the piles of spam ...

Death to spammers and hackers!

--
Kenni Judd
Juno Beach Orchids

http://www.jborchids.com
"keith" wrote in message
...
hi everyone I am sure I am not the only one receiving Microsoft's security
updates(viruses as Microsoft don't email to tell you of updates)I am
getting
hundreds a day, among other Spam mail,returned mail that I haven't sent!
I now this isn't about orchids,but this issue needs looking at!is there
anyway I can get my email address not to be shown after a posted
message,your email address should be private unless you want to give it
out!I have had to create more email addresses,& cancel my original.The
only
way around this I can think of is to create a new email address,private
one
only give it out to trusted parties.keep the original for newsgroups etc!
thanks keith

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:13:36 -0400, "Kenni Judd"
wrote:

But I would suggest that all of us, if sending private emails to others who
post here, use very specific subject lines, to help each other avoid
deleting good mail along with the piles of spam ...

Death to spammers and hackers!

Great ideas Kenni.
I just heard from someone whose email I was waiting for that this
"little bug" has been causing my address to have a denial of
service issue. He could not get anything into my box. It kept
overflowing even thou I emptied it several times a day.

The other problem is those who just set filters to "bounce". The
bounce doubles and sometimes tipples the volume of Garbage out
there. Much of what I got was "bounce" with a mangled version of
my address as the return. I had sent none of this. My system
has not caught the virus. So this thing is mangling harvested
addresses and using them as the from address (just what the
auto-bounce uses.) We can complain to ISPs and others without
bouncing the stuff to someone else. Lets all just delete what we
get and GRIPE at the ISPs. I am sure there are some filters that
could be set in the first hour to extract the thing.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

I took a hard line against SPAM a long time ago. I keep one dummy
address for everything to get caught by. I keep a real email address for
talking to people with, the hitch being everything going there gets
deleted by default, except for addresses in a text file buried in my
system. I'm getting 5-6000 SPAMS daily. Spammers should be sent to
Gitmo. -Rod-

Kenni Judd wrote:
I, too, have received several hundred of these. As a result, I upgraded my
antivirus software and installed additional internet security and anti-spam
programming [Norton Internet Security 2004]. So far, it seems to be working
well [today's virus scan with virus definitions updated earlier today
pronounced my computer 'clean' and the anti-spam feature is working a lot
better than the Outlook Express message rules did]. I will be checking the
spam folder before I empty it, to avoid deleting unread mail I actually want
to receive, at least for a while.

But I would suggest that all of us, if sending private emails to others who
post here, use very specific subject lines, to help each other avoid
deleting good mail along with the piles of spam ...

Death to spammers and hackers!

--
Kenni Judd
Juno Beach Orchids

http://www.jborchids.com
"keith" wrote in message
...

hi everyone I am sure I am not the only one receiving Microsoft's security
updates(viruses as Microsoft don't email to tell you of updates)I am

getting

hundreds a day, among other Spam mail,returned mail that I haven't sent!
I now this isn't about orchids,but this issue needs looking at!is there
anyway I can get my email address not to be shown after a posted
message,your email address should be private unless you want to give it
out!I have had to create more email addresses,& cancel my original.The

only

way around this I can think of is to create a new email address,private

one

only give it out to trusted parties.keep the original for newsgroups etc!
thanks keith

"keith" wrote in message ...
hi everyone I am sure I am not the only one receiving Microsoft's security
updates(viruses as Microsoft don't email to tell you of updates)I am getting
hundreds a day, among other Spam mail,returned mail that I haven't sent!
I now this isn't about orchids,but this issue needs looking at!is there
anyway I can get my email address not to be shown after a posted
message,your email address should be private unless you want to give it
out!I have had to create more email addresses,& cancel my original.The only
way around this I can think of is to create a new email address,private one
only give it out to trusted parties.keep the original for newsgroups etc!
thanks keith

It is probably the Swen32 worm or some variant of it.

It hit here three days ago.


J. Del Col

Still not a perfect world, but so far I highly recommend the Norton Internet
Security 2004 package. It's catching 99% of the spam [as opposed to the
about 5% that my Message Rules were catching], and has only caught 1
"non-spam" so far -- and that one was "marginal" [a message from e-bay,
technically not spam since I do have an account there and they actually had
a question ...]. I have been sending the spam in batches to my ISP's
reporting service at , every few hours as they
pile up; don't have time to track down every one to report it to THEIR ISP
[I'd be doing _nothing_ else and still getting behind _just_ on that!].

The software has also advised me of a number of attempted "intrusions," and
those I _have_ tracked down and reported to the appropriate ISP
administrators. If these were people trying to get in and steal my address
book to spam everyone in it, then I'm sorry I didn't install this much
earlier!

In addition, I visited several websites today [looking for more ways to deal
with these issues -- found lots but most were beyond my technical
capabilities], during which travel it helped me reject a PILE of unwanted
cookies & blocked 100+ ads, and, when I finished and ran Ad-Aware, I
actually had 0 new components to delete!

--
Kenni Judd
Juno Beach Orchids

http://www.jborchids.com

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
.. .
Still not a perfect world, but so far I highly recommend the Norton
Internet
Security 2004 package. It's catching 99% of the spam [as opposed to the
about 5% that my Message Rules were catching], and has only caught 1
"non-spam" so far -- and that one was "marginal" [a message from e-bay,
technically not spam since I do have an account there and they actually
had
a question ...]. I have been sending the spam in batches to my ISP's

Is NIS2004 really out already? I have NIS2003, and it has caught all the
viruses attached to the SPAM messages, but it hasn't stopped the SPAM. And
Sympatico's anti-spam service on their mail server catches less than 1% of
the SPAM: hardly a stellar performance. :-(

What did you do to get it to stop the SPAM? I have looked and haven't seen
any settings for dealing with SPAM.

Cheers,

Ted

Yes, the ISPs could easily block it (or at least remove the virused
attachment).

"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:13:36 -0400, "Kenni Judd"
wrote:

But I would suggest that all of us, if sending private emails to others
who
post here, use very specific subject lines, to help each other avoid
deleting good mail along with the piles of spam ...

Death to spammers and hackers!

Great ideas Kenni.
I just heard from someone whose email I was waiting for that this
"little bug" has been causing my address to have a denial of
service issue. He could not get anything into my box. It kept
overflowing even thou I emptied it several times a day.

The other problem is those who just set filters to "bounce". The
bounce doubles and sometimes tipples the volume of Garbage out
there. Much of what I got was "bounce" with a mangled version of
my address as the return. I had sent none of this. My system
has not caught the virus. So this thing is mangling harvested
addresses and using them as the from address (just what the
auto-bounce uses.) We can complain to ISPs and others without
bouncing the stuff to someone else. Lets all just delete what we
get and GRIPE at the ISPs. I am sure there are some filters that
could be set in the first hour to extract the thing.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

OK folks,

All of you are putting your email address out there for the Bots that walk
the web to pick up.

For example the Bot looks at the news group and sees:

"J. Del Col" wrote in message
m...
"keith" wrote in message
...


From that they can harvest two valid email addresses.

Go into your newsgroup reader and change the email address to something that
invalidates the address you post when you post to this newsgroup such as



The Bot would now pick an invalid email that would bounce back.

Someone manually typing would know to remove the "NOSPAM" to send you a
valid email. It should be easy to do in your newreader software. For
Outlook Express go to Accounts and then pick Properties.

When I did this my spam dropped dramatically!

Now get back to growing Orchids!

Gene

Trying what you said
Thanks if this works
Cheers
Peter
BTW thanks anyway

"Gene Schurg" schreef in bericht
nk.net...
OK folks,

All of you are putting your email address out there for the Bots that walk
the web to pick up.

For example the Bot looks at the news group and sees:

"J. Del Col" wrote in message
m...
"keith" wrote in message
...


From that they can harvest two valid email addresses.

Go into your newsgroup reader and change the email address to something
that
invalidates the address you post when you post to this newsgroup such as



The Bot would now pick an invalid email that would bounce back.

Someone manually typing would know to remove the "NOSPAM" to send you a
valid email. It should be easy to do in your newreader software. For
Outlook Express go to Accounts and then pick Properties.

When I did this my spam dropped dramatically!

Now get back to growing Orchids!

Gene

Failed the first time, so trying again
Cheers
Peter

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." schreef in bericht
.be...
Trying what you said
Thanks if this works
Cheers
Peter
BTW thanks anyway

"Gene Schurg" schreef in bericht
nk.net...
OK folks,

All of you are putting your email address out there for the Bots that
walk
the web to pick up.

For example the Bot looks at the news group and sees:

"J. Del Col" wrote in message
m...
"keith" wrote in message
...


From that they can harvest two valid email addresses.

Go into your newsgroup reader and change the email address to something
that
invalidates the address you post when you post to this newsgroup such as



The Bot would now pick an invalid email that would bounce back.

Someone manually typing would know to remove the "NOSPAM" to send you a
valid email. It should be easy to do in your newreader software. For
Outlook Express go to Accounts and then pick Properties.

When I did this my spam dropped dramatically!

Now get back to growing Orchids!

Gene

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message ink.net...
OK folks,

All of you are putting your email address out there for the Bots that walk
the web to pick up.

For example the Bot looks at the news group and sees:

"J. Del Col" wrote in message
m...
"keith" wrote in message
...


From that they can harvest two valid email addresses.

Go into your newsgroup reader and change the email address to something that
invalidates the address you post when you post to this newsgroup such as



The Bot would now pick an invalid email that would bounce back.

Someone manually typing would know to remove the "NOSPAM" to send you a
valid email. It should be easy to do in your newreader software. For
Outlook Express go to Accounts and then pick Properties.

When I did this my spam dropped dramatically!

Now get back to growing Orchids!

Gene

This won't stop 32.Swen. It is an auto-mailer worm that hijacks the
e-mail lists of people who -do- know your real e-mail address and then
sends itself to you in an avalanche of phony
Microsoft e-mails.

It also attempts to disable anti-virus programs.

If people are being bombarded by scores of such e-mails every day, it
means that someone with whom they exchange e-mail has been hit by
32.Swen or one of its morphs.


It's become a -big- problem on the net.

J. Del Col

ok group- I've taken out my ISP from these messages, not fair- I like
getting legitimate mail. Not much is in my email these days- most is in the
automatically deleted file. Diane
"J. Del Col" wrote in message
m...
"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
ink.net...
OK folks,

All of you are putting your email address out there for the Bots that
walk
the web to pick up.

For example the Bot looks at the news group and sees:

"J. Del Col" wrote in message
m...
"keith" wrote in message
...


From that they can harvest two valid email addresses.

Go into your newsgroup reader and change the email address to something
that
invalidates the address you post when you post to this newsgroup such as



The Bot would now pick an invalid email that would bounce back.

Someone manually typing would know to remove the "NOSPAM" to send you a
valid email. It should be easy to do in your newreader software. For
Outlook Express go to Accounts and then pick Properties.

When I did this my spam dropped dramatically!

Now get back to growing Orchids!

Gene

This won't stop 32.Swen. It is an auto-mailer worm that hijacks the
e-mail lists of people who -do- know your real e-mail address and then
sends itself to you in an avalanche of phony
Microsoft e-mails.

It also attempts to disable anti-virus programs.

If people are being bombarded by scores of such e-mails every day, it
means that someone with whom they exchange e-mail has been hit by
32.Swen or one of its morphs.


It's become a -big- problem on the net.

J. Del Col