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Old 23-10-2003, 10:02 PM
ron doctors
 
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I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to
this group.)

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Old 24-10-2003, 05:12 PM
K Barrett
 
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With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and
shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more
warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species
might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that
means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself.

In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth.

K Barrett
"ron doctors" wrote in message
om...
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to
this group.)



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Old 24-10-2003, 11:02 PM
V_coerulea
 
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I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas below
45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V coerulea.
The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our vandas
take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under 20%
shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The
strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of June-August.
This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright light
and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less light and
they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they may do
just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with watering).
They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line if
you're interested in some V coerulea.
Gary

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s53...
With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and
shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more
warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species
might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO

that
means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself.

In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth.

K Barrett
"ron doctors" wrote in message
om...
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to
this group.)





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Old 25-10-2003, 06:42 PM
dada
 
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i'm interested in a vanda coerulea.. i tries to email u but it bounced
back............

"V_coerulea" wrote in message
...
I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas

below
45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V

coerulea.
The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our

vandas
take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under 20%
shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The
strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of

June-August.
This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright light
and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less light

and
they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they may do
just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with

watering).
They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line if
you're interested in some V coerulea.
Gary

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s53...
With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids

outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and
shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more
warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana

species
might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO

that
means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself.

In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth.

K Barrett
"ron doctors" wrote in message
om...
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to
this group.)







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Old 26-10-2003, 04:42 PM
K Barrett
 
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try spelling the email address as 'duesouth'

K Barrett
Just a guess

"dada" wrote in message
s.com...
i'm interested in a vanda coerulea.. i tries to email u but it bounced
back............

"V_coerulea" wrote in message
...
I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas

below
45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V

coerulea.
The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our

vandas
take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under 20%
shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The
strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of

June-August.
This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright

light
and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less light

and
they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they may

do
just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with

watering).
They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line if
you're interested in some V coerulea.
Gary

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s53...
With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids

outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and
shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more
warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana

species
might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO

that
means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself.

In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth.

K Barrett
"ron doctors" wrote in message
om...
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but

next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I

caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once

a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the

same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting

to
this group.)










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Old 26-10-2003, 10:32 PM
V_coerulea
 
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Thanks, K, that's exactly right.
Gary

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s01...
try spelling the email address as 'duesouth'

K Barrett
Just a guess

"dada" wrote in message
s.com...
i'm interested in a vanda coerulea.. i tries to email u but it bounced
back............

"V_coerulea" wrote in message
...
I agree with what K Barrett said. I wouldn't advise growing any vandas

below
45-50 deg F. Those in the low temp range would be hybrids using V

coerulea.
The sun strength here in southern SC is similiar to yours. All of our

vandas
take full sun from Oct to April. From May to Sept they all go under

20%
shade. The terete -leaved vandas stay under these conditions. The
strap-leaved ones get an additional 20% shade for the months of

June-August.
This includes the vandaceous hybrids such as Ascocendas. The bright

light
and fertilizer gives you the blooms. I'm sure you could give less

light
and
they would survive (may or may not bloom), or more light where they

may
do
just as well or suffer some burn (esp if you're not careful with

watering).
They're all worth a try fr the wonderful flowers. Contact me off line

if
you're interested in some V coerulea.
Gary

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s53...
With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids

outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and
shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want

more
warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana

species
might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but

IMHO
that
means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself.

In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth.

K Barrett
"ron doctors" wrote in message
om...
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions

about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but

next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I

caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing

window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly

once
a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the

same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4

strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting

to
this group.)










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Old 27-10-2003, 06:42 AM
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Ron,

I would call Paul Grippe at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate and ask him your
question. Off-hand it seems to me that some of the more hardy types
might grow outdoors in your area, providing you take them inside when
temps reach below the 40 degree mark. I, too, would tend to agree with
K regarding Vanda sanderiana crosses. But, regarding vandas it may be
noteworthy here that there are two types of vandas, and the terete types
(e.g. Vanda Miss Joaquim )are grown without shade cloth.

.. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System
http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html

--------------------------------------------------

K Barrett wrote:

With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and
shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more
warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana species
might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO that
means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself.

In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth.

K Barrett
"ron doctors" wrote in message
om...
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to
this group.)

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Old 28-10-2003, 01:12 AM
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There's a book called Growing Orchids in the Tropics from SE Asia Orchid
Society that has pictures of these vandas growing in the garden without any
kind of shade.
________________
Ken Woodward
Newton, MA
http://kwoodward.net

"profpam" wrote in message ...
Ron,

I would call Paul Grippe at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate and ask him your
question. Off-hand it seems to me that some of the more hardy types
might grow outdoors in your area, providing you take them inside when
temps reach below the 40 degree mark. I, too, would tend to agree with
K regarding Vanda sanderiana crosses. But, regarding vandas it may be
noteworthy here that there are two types of vandas, and the terete types
(e.g. Vanda Miss Joaquim )are grown without shade cloth.

. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System
http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html

--------------------------------------------------

K Barrett wrote:

With proper case selection you could grow some vandaceous orchids

outside,
however IMHO they'd do better with some protection from the cold and
shadecloth. Anything with sanderiana in the background will want more
warmth. Some of the interesting crosses with other non-sanderiana

species
might work. Reportedly coerulea crosses take more cool temps, but IMHO

that
means the cooler side of warm rather than cool itself.

In anycase, even the Thais use shadecloth.

K Barrett
"ron doctors" wrote in message
om...
I am in Santa Barbara California. I have a couple of questions about
Vandas?
1. Can Vandas take full sun here?
2. What is minimum temperature. We get down to 30F at times, but next
to house probably no lower than 38F. I wanted to find out if I caould
keep the Vandas outside year round.
I keep all my other orchids inside right next to a SW facing window
with a shade cloth over the window, water very very thoroughly once a
week and they do well producing continuous flowers. ( not on the same
plant ! ). I fertilize by a spray once a month at about 1/4 strength
using Peter's Orchid food .
Any help on Vanda's in this area would be most appreciated.
Thank you , ( if possible please email directly as well as posting to
this group.)





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