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Old 11-05-2004, 04:08 PM
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I have ordered many bare rooted orchid plants in the past & have
been lucky enough to grow some!
Now my question is, if the plant has not viable roots, mostly shrivelled
canes, in this case a dendrobium, with buds, would it be better to remove
the buds to give the plant a chance to grow?
I have posted a pic on abpo.
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Old 11-05-2004, 07:06 PM
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wendy7 wrote:

I have ordered many bare rooted orchid plants in the past & have
been lucky enough to grow some!
Now my question is, if the plant has not viable roots, mostly shrivelled
canes, in this case a dendrobium, with buds, would it be better to remove
the buds to give the plant a chance to grow?
I have posted a pic on abpo.


Well, I can't get abpo, but make sure you are removing flower buds,
and not vegetative ones. Other than that, probably not a bad idea. I'd
put that plant in a nice humid place, without too much light. Maybe
laying on a bed of sphagnum moss.

Although usually bare root plants come with actual roots... Unless
you are ordering them from an importer. Sometimes those plants spend
substantial time on slow boats, slower customs, etc. If you ordered
them from an in-country vendor, I'd probably complain. You really
should get quality plants, with roots, regardless of whether they come
in or out of pots. I ship out of pot for that very reason, if the plant
has bad roots I want to replace it before the customer finds out.


Just my $0.02 (where o where did my 'cents' key go...).

Rob

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Old 11-05-2004, 09:14 PM
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wendy7 wrote:

I have ordered many bare rooted orchid plants in the past & have
been lucky enough to grow some!
Now my question is, if the plant has not viable roots, mostly

shrivelled
canes, in this case a dendrobium, with buds, would it be better to remove
the buds to give the plant a chance to grow?
I have posted a pic on abpo.


Well, I can't get abpo, but make sure you are removing flower buds,
and not vegetative ones. Other than that, probably not a bad idea. I'd
put that plant in a nice humid place, without too much light. Maybe
laying on a bed of sphagnum moss.

Yeah, that sounds good, Wendy. Put it in a nice dark room with a bed. Give
it a few cocktails. Maybe Dyna-Gro on the rocks? Who knows, something may
come of it...maybe keikis???!!
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Old 12-05-2004, 12:07 AM
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All,

First of all, I know first hand how rough some of those imported bare
rooters can be. Still, I've taken some and rehydrated them overnight with a
little rooting medium in the water, with some success. Seems to give them a
leg up.

Also, last year at Redland I bought a bunch of bare root plants on which the
pbulbs looked pretty good even though the roots were dry as a crisp.
They've grown, thrived and bloomed after rehydration.

Diana


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Old 12-05-2004, 02:05 AM
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*G* Good idea Reka. Thanks.
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Reka wrote:
"Rob Halgren" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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wendy7 wrote:

I have ordered many bare rooted orchid plants in the past & have
been lucky enough to grow some!
Now my question is, if the plant has not viable roots, mostly
shrivelled canes, in this case a dendrobium, with buds, would it be
better to remove the buds to give the plant a chance to grow?
I have posted a pic on abpo.


Well, I can't get abpo, but make sure you are removing flower
buds, and not vegetative ones. Other than that, probably not a bad
idea. I'd put that plant in a nice humid place, without too much
light. Maybe laying on a bed of sphagnum moss.

Yeah, that sounds good, Wendy. Put it in a nice dark room with a
bed. Give it a few cocktails. Maybe Dyna-Gro on the rocks? Who
knows, something may come of it...maybe keikis???!!





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Old 12-05-2004, 04:04 PM
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Many thanks Rob for your 2¢......(Type 2 Alt 0162)*g*
Yes the plants did look as though they came off a slow boat!
India to Port of Entry to Texas to S.Calif.
Anyway Rob, forgot to mention the flowers are already open,
so maybe it is too late to remove them?
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Ps.... I think abpo is the most fantastic newsgroup, the photos
are outstanding & of course you know the people.

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wendy7 wrote:

I have ordered many bare rooted orchid plants in the past & have
been lucky enough to grow some!
Now my question is, if the plant has not viable roots, mostly

shrivelled
canes, in this case a dendrobium, with buds, would it be better to remove
the buds to give the plant a chance to grow?
I have posted a pic on abpo.


Well, I can't get abpo, but make sure you are removing flower buds,
and not vegetative ones. Other than that, probably not a bad idea. I'd
put that plant in a nice humid place, without too much light. Maybe
laying on a bed of sphagnum moss.

Although usually bare root plants come with actual roots... Unless
you are ordering them from an importer. Sometimes those plants spend
substantial time on slow boats, slower customs, etc. If you ordered
them from an in-country vendor, I'd probably complain. You really
should get quality plants, with roots, regardless of whether they come
in or out of pots. I ship out of pot for that very reason, if the plant
has bad roots I want to replace it before the customer finds out.


Just my $0.02 (where o where did my 'cents' key go...).

Rob

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1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit
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Good advice Diana, I too have ordered many bare rooters, I'd be lying if I
say
I haven't lost any but that's the price you pay! *g*
The situ with the Den devonianum is that I was wondering if I should
have sacrificed the buds at the time as their cane was the only live looking
one? Too late now though as it is blooming. Just have to hope for new
growth.
Thanks for the info.
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All,

First of all, I know first hand how rough some of those imported bare
rooters can be. Still, I've taken some and rehydrated them overnight with

a
little rooting medium in the water, with some success. Seems to give them

a
leg up.

Also, last year at Redland I bought a bunch of bare root plants on which

the
pbulbs looked pretty good even though the roots were dry as a crisp.
They've grown, thrived and bloomed after rehydration.

Diana




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Old 12-05-2004, 08:06 PM
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wendy7 wrote:

Many thanks Rob for your 2¢......(Type 2 Alt 0162)*g*


$&#*@! inflation! *grin* I'm never going to remember that one...

Yes the plants did look as though they came off a slow boat!
India to Port of Entry to Texas to S.Calif.
Anyway Rob, forgot to mention the flowers are already open,
so maybe it is too late to remove them?


Doesn't matter too much. They won't last long on a plant with no
root system anyway. I'd still take them off.

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Cheers Wendy
Ps.... I think abpo is the most fantastic newsgroup, the photos
are outstanding & of course you know the people.



As wonderful as I'm sure it is, for some reason the university won't
pick it up. They have newsgroups that would make a sailor blush, but
not orchids, that is too exciting.

Rob


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1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit
4) LittlefrogFarm kinda/sorta/somewhat open for business -
e-mail me for a list )
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wendy7 wrote:

Many thanks Rob for your 2¢......(Type 2 Alt 0162)*g*


$&#*@! inflation! *grin* I'm never going to remember that one...

Yes the plants did look as though they came off a slow boat!
India to Port of Entry to Texas to S.Calif.
Anyway Rob, forgot to mention the flowers are already open,
so maybe it is too late to remove them?


Doesn't matter too much. They won't last long on a plant with no
root system anyway. I'd still take them off.

--
Cheers Wendy
Ps.... I think abpo is the most fantastic newsgroup, the photos
are outstanding & of course you know the people.



As wonderful as I'm sure it is, for some reason the university won't
pick it up. They have newsgroups that would make a sailor blush, but
not orchids, that is too exciting.

Rob


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Hi. Someone had mentioned soaking bare root plants in a rooting solution. Can
someone elaborate on this a bit? Thanks for any info.


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Old 15-05-2004, 03:12 PM
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George Norris of Spring Orchid Specialties advocates the following:

In one gallon of 80°F water, dissolve:
One cup of sugar
5 drops of SuperThrive
One teaspoon vitamin E

I have taken that a step farther since hearing Alan Koch of Gold Country Orchids, adding 1/2
teaspoon of STEM (soluble trace element mixture).

In any case, soak the plant for two- to four hours.

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I apologize, I missed the thread, but I would like to find out when does
this apply? Is it something that is done when you receive plants via mail or
as an occasional treatment?

Mariana

"Ray" wrote in message
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George Norris of Spring Orchid Specialties advocates the following:

In one gallon of 80°F water, dissolve:
One cup of sugar
5 drops of SuperThrive
One teaspoon vitamin E

I have taken that a step farther since hearing Alan Koch of Gold Country

Orchids, adding 1/2
teaspoon of STEM (soluble trace element mixture).

In any case, soak the plant for two- to four hours.

--

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Ray, Where can one buy this STEM?

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Ray wrote:
George Norris of Spring Orchid Specialties advocates the following:

In one gallon of 80°F water, dissolve:
One cup of sugar
5 drops of SuperThrive
One teaspoon vitamin E

I have taken that a step farther since hearing Alan Koch of Gold
Country Orchids, adding 1/2 teaspoon of STEM (soluble trace element
mixture).

In any case, soak the plant for two- to four hours.


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Hi. Someone had mentioned soaking bare root plants in a rooting
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It's mostly used for bare-root imports that have gotten fairly desiccated. If you have
"professionally abused" a plant into that condition, it can apply to it prior to rescuing, too!

The idea behind it is to provide some fuel and inducement to root.

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"GrlIntrpted" wrote in message
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I apologize, I missed the thread, but I would like to find out when does
this apply? Is it something that is done when you receive plants via mail or
as an occasional treatment?

Mariana

"Ray" wrote in message
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George Norris of Spring Orchid Specialties advocates the following:

In one gallon of 80°F water, dissolve:
One cup of sugar
5 drops of SuperThrive
One teaspoon vitamin E

I have taken that a step farther since hearing Alan Koch of Gold Country

Orchids, adding 1/2
teaspoon of STEM (soluble trace element mixture).

In any case, soak the plant for two- to four hours.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

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"IiSpankyii" wrote in message
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Hi. Someone had mentioned soaking bare root plants in a rooting

solution. Can
someone elaborate on this a bit? Thanks for any info.







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Old 15-05-2004, 07:05 PM
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I carry it, and it is also available (slightly different formulation called TEMO from Plant Hormones
Canada

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Ray wrote:
George Norris of Spring Orchid Specialties advocates the following:

In one gallon of 80°F water, dissolve:
One cup of sugar
5 drops of SuperThrive
One teaspoon vitamin E

I have taken that a step farther since hearing Alan Koch of Gold
Country Orchids, adding 1/2 teaspoon of STEM (soluble trace element
mixture).

In any case, soak the plant for two- to four hours.


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Hi. Someone had mentioned soaking bare root plants in a rooting
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