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Ogres is history
I was going through my favorite bookmarks & found OGRES is closed!
http://www.proinnovation.com/ogres/ |
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Well that sucks.
K Barrett "Wendy" wrote in message ... I was going through my favorite bookmarks & found OGRES is closed! http://www.proinnovation.com/ogres/ |
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K Barrett wrote:
Well that sucks. Do we know why it is dead? Lack of money, lack of interest, or some stupid legal problem? I can predict with 100% accuracy that eventually some schmuck who gets a bad review will threaten legal action, even though they have no case... If somebody can find out why it isn't there and that it definitely isn't coming back, I will volunteer to create/administer its replacement. Although there may be 10 other people who want to do that. We could make it open source... Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit LittlefrogFarm is open - e-mail me for a list ) |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:37:32 -0400, Rob Halgren
wrote: Do we know why it is dead? There is an explanation on the site (http://www.proinnovation.com/ogres/) Basically, it sounds like he got tired of vendors complaining that it was unfair. He's accepting comments from those that want to give their opinions. deg |
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from what has been posted on the forums, I gather some vendor was unhappy
with a rating. (no names were given) And after all the negative email, etc. that the person running the Ogres site was getting, he decided to shut it down. it no longer became worth the hassle he was getting. "Rob Halgren" wrote in message ... Do we know why it is dead? Lack of money, lack of interest, or some stupid legal problem? I can predict with 100% accuracy that eventually some schmuck who gets a bad review will threaten legal action, even though they have no case... If somebody can find out why it isn't there and that it definitely isn't coming back, I will volunteer to create/administer its replacement. Although there may be 10 other people who want to do that. We could make it open source... Rob |
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molli wrote:
from what has been posted on the forums, I gather some vendor was unhappy with a rating. (no names were given) And after all the negative email, etc. that the person running the Ogres site was getting, he decided to shut it down. it no longer became worth the hassle he was getting. You know, if a vendor doesn't want to be evaluated, I kind of want to know that. A simple "this vendor has elected not to be rated by OGRES" would be just about right. Of course I wouldn't purchase something from them... But at least you know their position. Rob (Rated XXX - for XXXcellent. Or maybe for foul language, I can't remember) -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit LittlefrogFarm is open - e-mail me for a list ) |
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Yep,
That's right. While there was plenty of opportunity for abuse, my feeling is that if you're fair with your customers, you have nothing serious to fear. I was taken aback by someone who griped about First Rays because a blossom arrived a bit mushed - but then acknowledged that she wasn't expecting it to be in-bloom or spike anyway! -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. "Dewitt" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:37:32 -0400, Rob Halgren wrote: Do we know why it is dead? There is an explanation on the site (http://www.proinnovation.com/ogres/) Basically, it sounds like he got tired of vendors complaining that it was unfair. He's accepting comments from those that want to give their opinions. deg |
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Ray wrote:
Yep, That's right. While there was plenty of opportunity for abuse, my feeling is that if you're fair with your customers, you have nothing serious to fear. 110% correct. And you probably make more money by being scrupulously fair than by dinking around with excuses. And sleep better at night. I was taken aback by someone who griped about First Rays because a blossom arrived a bit mushed - but then acknowledged that she wasn't expecting it to be in-bloom or spike anyway! And there are always a few people that seem to take pleasure in complaining, too. But most complaints are due to miscommunication. I'd appreciate the availabilty of a secondary place to store complaints about me. Perhaps the customer couldn't reach me for some reason (spam filters, packet-loss, whatever). I might never know there was a problem if there wasn't a neutral third party collecting comments. Of course there has to be a mechanism for complaint removal (in the case where the complaint was resolved to the satisfaction of both parties), or at least a way for the vendor to present a rebuttal. I didn't use OGREs enough to know if that was implemented. Another nice feature would be to rate customers... There are a few bad apples in that basket too. Not many, thank goodness. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit LittlefrogFarm is open - e-mail me for a list ) |
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Too bad. I didn't go there all that often, but it was a good source on the
occasions when I needed it. Diana |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:05:16 -0400, "Ray"
wrote: I was taken aback by someone who griped about First Rays because a blossom arrived a bit mushed - but then acknowledged that she wasn't expecting it to be in-bloom or spike anyway! And someone was critical of Al for being stingy with the sphagnum he potted in. . . Kind of like ebay comments, vendors have to trust that rational customers are able to look at the totality of the comments and are able to filter out comments from naive customers and kooks. deg |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:27:56 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: Too bad. I didn't go there all that often, but it was a good source on the occasions when I needed it. Diana I do wonder if this was not part of it too. I can not remember the last time I used it. If all the traffic is Gripe - you tend to not want to offer the service. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php |
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Ray wrote:
Yep, That's right. While there was plenty of opportunity for abuse, my feeling is that if you're fair with your customers, you have nothing serious to fear. 110% correct. And you probably make more money by being scrupulously fair than by dinking around with excuses. And sleep better at night. I was taken aback by someone who griped about First Rays because a blossom arrived a bit mushed - but then acknowledged that she wasn't expecting it to be in-bloom or spike anyway! And there are always a few people that seem to take pleasure in complaining, too. But most complaints are due to miscommunication. I'd appreciate the availabilty of a secondary place to store complaints about me. Perhaps the customer couldn't reach me for some reason (spam filters, packet-loss, whatever). I might never know there was a problem if there wasn't a neutral third party collecting comments. Of course there has to be a mechanism for complaint removal (in the case where the complaint was resolved to the satisfaction of both parties), or at least a way for the vendor to present a rebuttal. I didn't use OGREs enough to know if that was implemented. Another nice feature would be to rate customers... There are a few bad apples in that basket too. Not many, thank goodness. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit LittlefrogFarm is open - e-mail me for a list ) |
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Too bad. I didn't go there all that often, but it was a good source on the
occasions when I needed it. Diana |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:27:56 GMT, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote: Too bad. I didn't go there all that often, but it was a good source on the occasions when I needed it. Diana I do wonder if this was not part of it too. I can not remember the last time I used it. If all the traffic is Gripe - you tend to not want to offer the service. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php |
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