I have a sick phalanopsis. I have been keeping it in a screened in
porch in S. Florida and watering every few days. I cut one of the top
leaves (probably a stupid thing to do) as it seemed that the leaf was
deteriorating and I thought it would spread. Now I see black spots
inside the leaf. Looks like it could be a mold / fungus. I'd
greatly appreciate anyone's thoughts on what it is and how I can fix
it.

see pic:
http://www.consumergroup.com/sickorchid.jpg

Thanks,

-David

Looks like it is terminally infected with a bacterial or fungal rot - in the
trash immediately!

Now then, go buy two new plants as compensation.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
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"David Sussman" wrote in message
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I have a sick phalanopsis. I have been keeping it in a screened in
porch in S. Florida and watering every few days. I cut one of the top
leaves (probably a stupid thing to do) as it seemed that the leaf was
deteriorating and I thought it would spread. Now I see black spots
inside the leaf. Looks like it could be a mold / fungus. I'd
greatly appreciate anyone's thoughts on what it is and how I can fix
it.

see pic:
http://www.consumergroup.com/sickorchid.jpg

Thanks,

-David

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:50:54 -0400, "Ray"
wrote:

Looks like it is terminally infected with a bacterial or fungal rot - in the
trash immediately!

Now then, go buy two new plants as compensation.

David -
We are really not brushing you off. It is very infectious and
not readily curable and if you have other Phal plants you could
carry it to them. Get rid of this one. It is too far gone. And
your standard grief suggestions is to buy 2, one for the
replacement for the one lost and one to make you smile.

Next time, see if you can get a light breeze across you plant so
the leaves dry before night. Keep the crown (center point of the
leaves) dry.


SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

David,

That appears to be rot. I hate to say so, but I don't have high hopes for
the plant, with all that necrotic tissue. What you can try is peroxide,
sprayed all over the plant, and watered through the medium. Also, it
appears that the parts of the leaves nearest the crown are not so badly
affected yet, so you can try cutting back to good tissue (using a sterile
blade) and then making a paste of Elmer's glue and cinnamon to be applied to
the cut edges of the leaves.

Can I assume that you are growing the plant shady and out of possible rain
fall? Phals need to be watered in the morning, so that they have time for
the leaves to dry before nightfall. And, it's important to keep water out
of the crown. Watering every few days, with our humid weather down here at
the moment, might be too much, but I can't say that for sure.

Hey. If you lose it, you lose it. Go get another!

Diana

I agree, if the phal isn't a expensive/rare plant then it isn't worth trying
to save & risk any healthy plants you may have or may not, if not treat
yourself.But first look at your conditions to determine what caused the
rot/infection in the first place.

--
Thanks Keith,England,UK.
"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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David,

That appears to be rot. I hate to say so, but I don't have high hopes for
the plant, with all that necrotic tissue. What you can try is peroxide,
sprayed all over the plant, and watered through the medium. Also, it
appears that the parts of the leaves nearest the crown are not so badly
affected yet, so you can try cutting back to good tissue (using a sterile
blade) and then making a paste of Elmer's glue and cinnamon to be applied
to
the cut edges of the leaves.

Can I assume that you are growing the plant shady and out of possible rain
fall? Phals need to be watered in the morning, so that they have time for
the leaves to dry before nightfall. And, it's important to keep water out
of the crown. Watering every few days, with our humid weather down here
at
the moment, might be too much, but I can't say that for sure.

Hey. If you lose it, you lose it. Go get another!

Diana

The infection looks pretty systemic...I don't think it's curable at this
point.

Cheers,
Xi

David Sussman wrote:

I have a sick phalanopsis. I have been keeping it in a screened in
porch in S. Florida and watering every few days. I cut one of the top
leaves (probably a stupid thing to do) as it seemed that the leaf was
deteriorating and I thought it would spread. Now I see black spots
inside the leaf. Looks like it could be a mold / fungus. I'd
greatly appreciate anyone's thoughts on what it is and how I can fix
it.

see pic:
http://www.consumergroup.com/sickorchid.jpg

Thanks,

-David

Gee, Sue. I didn't know you were my wife! Big grin here

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
..
"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:50:54 -0400, "Ray"
wrote:

Looks like it is terminally infected with a bacterial or fungal rot - in
the
trash immediately!

Now then, go buy two new plants as compensation.

David -
We are really not brushing you off. It is very infectious and
not readily curable and if you have other Phal plants you could
carry it to them. Get rid of this one. It is too far gone. And
your standard grief suggestions is to buy 2, one for the
replacement for the one lost and one to make you smile.

Next time, see if you can get a light breeze across you plant so
the leaves dry before night. Keep the crown (center point of the
leaves) dry.


SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

On 31 Aug 2004 13:43:56 -0700, (David Sussman) wrote:

see pic:
http://www.consumergroup.com/sickorchid.jpg

Remember the original Star Trek series? "It's dead, Jim."

deg

Hey Diana,

I am a bit of a beginner. When I first got the plant I did not water
it enough. It went limp. How often should I water it? It seems that
my last watering technique of not "SOAKING" the media was not enough
water once each week. Now I have been told to let it actually soak
in water (in a pot of water for example) for about 10-15 min and add a
bit of fertilizer once every week or so. Next take it out of the
soaking pot and let it drain and dry outside (no direct sun).

How often should I do such a soaking rather than just running some
running water over it for a few seconds.

I guess this plant is going to die but I'd like to learn something
from it so that I can try and prevent anything from getting this bad
in the future again.
I will try some hydrogen peroxide as an experiment.

-David

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message hlink.net...
David,

That appears to be rot. I hate to say so, but I don't have high hopes for
the plant, with all that necrotic tissue. What you can try is peroxide,
sprayed all over the plant, and watered through the medium. Also, it
appears that the parts of the leaves nearest the crown are not so badly
affected yet, so you can try cutting back to good tissue (using a sterile
blade) and then making a paste of Elmer's glue and cinnamon to be applied to
the cut edges of the leaves.

Can I assume that you are growing the plant shady and out of possible rain
fall? Phals need to be watered in the morning, so that they have time for
the leaves to dry before nightfall. And, it's important to keep water out
of the crown. Watering every few days, with our humid weather down here at
the moment, might be too much, but I can't say that for sure.

Hey. If you lose it, you lose it. Go get another!

Diana

David,

Phals prefer to have the medium never dry out completely, but need to have
lots of air flow to the rot system as well. That could mean watering a lot
more often. It may also be that a coarse bark mix is inappropriate for
phals in your conditions, and that you should consider an alternate medium -
one that stays moist and airy under the watering regimen you can easily
handle.

If you're willing to share details about the growing conditions, I'm sure we
can all throw our two-cents in, eventually coming up with enough to actually
help!

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
..
"David Sussman" wrote in message
om...
Hey Diana,

I am a bit of a beginner. When I first got the plant I did not water
it enough. It went limp. How often should I water it? It seems that
my last watering technique of not "SOAKING" the media was not enough
water once each week. Now I have been told to let it actually soak
in water (in a pot of water for example) for about 10-15 min and add a
bit of fertilizer once every week or so. Next take it out of the
soaking pot and let it drain and dry outside (no direct sun).

How often should I do such a soaking rather than just running some
running water over it for a few seconds.

I guess this plant is going to die but I'd like to learn something
from it so that I can try and prevent anything from getting this bad
in the future again.
I will try some hydrogen peroxide as an experiment.

-David

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
David,

That appears to be rot. I hate to say so, but I don't have high hopes
for
the plant, with all that necrotic tissue. What you can try is peroxide,
sprayed all over the plant, and watered through the medium. Also, it
appears that the parts of the leaves nearest the crown are not so badly
affected yet, so you can try cutting back to good tissue (using a
sterile
blade) and then making a paste of Elmer's glue and cinnamon to be
applied to
the cut edges of the leaves.

Can I assume that you are growing the plant shady and out of possible
rain
fall? Phals need to be watered in the morning, so that they have time
for
the leaves to dry before nightfall. And, it's important to keep water
out
of the crown. Watering every few days, with our humid weather down here
at
the moment, might be too much, but I can't say that for sure.

Hey. If you lose it, you lose it. Go get another!

Diana

(David Sussman) wrote in message m...
I have a sick phalanopsis.

In addition to what others have posted, the dried, whitish patch on
the left side looks a lot like sunburn. If the plant was stressed and
burned by direct sunlight, that might make the leaf tissue more
susceptible to bacterial and fungal infections.

Nick

(David Sussman) wrote in message m...
I have a sick phalanopsis.

In addition to what others have posted, the dried, whitish patch on
the left side looks a lot like sunburn. If the plant was stressed and
burned by direct sunlight, that might make the leaf tissue more
susceptible to bacterial and fungal infections.

Nick