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Sarah 01-11-2004 03:24 PM

It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




Sarah 01-11-2004 03:24 PM

It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




prem_s 01-11-2004 03:47 PM

New 2005 Orchid Species Calendar
 
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


Som 02-11-2004 12:28 AM

Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message ...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


Som 02-11-2004 12:28 AM

Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message ...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


Som 02-11-2004 12:28 AM

Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message ...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


K Barrett 02-11-2004 01:03 AM

I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett

"Som" wrote in message
om...
Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message

...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




K Barrett 02-11-2004 01:03 AM

I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett

"Som" wrote in message
om...
Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message

...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




K Barrett 02-11-2004 01:03 AM

I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett

"Som" wrote in message
om...
Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message

...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




Al 02-11-2004 02:21 AM

Warning: nondenominational comment ahead:
CafePress.com is the same company that Max (remember her) used to make her
orchid coffee mugs and cards. It is an interesting business model for
people who have pictures that can be put on things like calendars and cards
and t-shirts and coffee mugs and shoes horns and teddy bears and soup cans.
I still have my "Usual Suspects" mug. I went to cafe press and typed
"orchids" into the site search looking for her mugs to see if she was still
doing it. There were 100 pages of orchid related products. Some of them
looked pretty neat. I saw an "I Love Orchids" license plate holder as I was
paging down. :-) and more cards and calendars and mugs than there are
orchid species.... :-)

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:g1Bhd.343344$MQ5.240801@attbi_s52...
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was
advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett

"Som" wrote in message
om...
Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message

...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/






Al 02-11-2004 02:21 AM

Warning: nondenominational comment ahead:
CafePress.com is the same company that Max (remember her) used to make her
orchid coffee mugs and cards. It is an interesting business model for
people who have pictures that can be put on things like calendars and cards
and t-shirts and coffee mugs and shoes horns and teddy bears and soup cans.
I still have my "Usual Suspects" mug. I went to cafe press and typed
"orchids" into the site search looking for her mugs to see if she was still
doing it. There were 100 pages of orchid related products. Some of them
looked pretty neat. I saw an "I Love Orchids" license plate holder as I was
paging down. :-) and more cards and calendars and mugs than there are
orchid species.... :-)

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:g1Bhd.343344$MQ5.240801@attbi_s52...
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was
advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett

"Som" wrote in message
om...
Wow! what a great way to advertise your products for free!!...


"Sarah" wrote in message

...
It's beautiful, Prem!

Sarah

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
I have compiled a 2005 wall calendar featuring my species orchid
photography.

http://www.cafepress.com/speciesorchs006

this is in addition to the FL native orchids calendar posted earlier:

http://www.cafepress.com/nativeorchs001

---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/






prem_s 02-11-2004 07:06 AM

K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


prem_s 02-11-2004 07:06 AM

K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


Ray 02-11-2004 10:50 AM

I think folks were just pulling your leg, Prem.

You're absolutely right about the long-standing tradition. For the first
several years in the existence of my business, posts here stating stuff like
"I just added some new plants. Go to the URL below, if you're interested in
seeing them." was my ONLY form of advertising, and the participants of this
group have always been very supportive.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
..
"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was
advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




Ray 02-11-2004 10:50 AM

I think folks were just pulling your leg, Prem.

You're absolutely right about the long-standing tradition. For the first
several years in the existence of my business, posts here stating stuff like
"I just added some new plants. Go to the URL below, if you're interested in
seeing them." was my ONLY form of advertising, and the participants of this
group have always been very supportive.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
..
"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was
advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




Ray 02-11-2004 10:50 AM

I think folks were just pulling your leg, Prem.

You're absolutely right about the long-standing tradition. For the first
several years in the existence of my business, posts here stating stuff like
"I just added some new plants. Go to the URL below, if you're interested in
seeing them." was my ONLY form of advertising, and the participants of this
group have always been very supportive.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
..
"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was
advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




J Fortuna 02-11-2004 12:26 PM

Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such as
yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in this virtual
community and has posted many messages that are not just advertisements,
chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for their products from time to
time, as long as it is orchid related and likely to be of interest to the
participants, I don't think there is any problem, and I hope that others
feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before posts a
message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at best marginally
related to his subject without bothering to even stick around to see whether
anyone minds. Since what you did wasn't remotely like that, no problem here.
Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was

advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




J Fortuna 02-11-2004 12:26 PM

Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such as
yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in this virtual
community and has posted many messages that are not just advertisements,
chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for their products from time to
time, as long as it is orchid related and likely to be of interest to the
participants, I don't think there is any problem, and I hope that others
feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before posts a
message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at best marginally
related to his subject without bothering to even stick around to see whether
anyone minds. Since what you did wasn't remotely like that, no problem here.
Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was

advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/




Lady Blacksword 04-11-2004 12:10 AM

I agree w/ Joanna. And, being an artist myself, I'd like to offer
counter-encouragement to the comment awhile back, about your calendar being
too expensive.
It Isn't.
Read that a couple of times, and feel free to fluff up and preen.
People will always have a tendency to say something is "too pricey" when
they personally can't or won't afford it. I'll just be truthful - I'm an
artist (jewelry designer), and I can't afford to buy it. I'd love to have
your calendars, Prem, and I'd buy them for that price in a heartbeat, but,
honestly, I'm cheap. I'd rather buy an orchid in my splurge moment.
Keep up the good work and don't let nay-sayers get you down,
Murri

PS-
To all who think Prem's calendars are too expensive, trot your butts down to
Barnes and Noble, and see just how much they are charging for calendars,
many of them far inferior in photographic talent.
Then shut your face and give him the complements he deserves, instead of
stupid complaints.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:S1Lhd.4940$RA4.2775@trnddc06...
Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such as
yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in this

virtual
community and has posted many messages that are not just advertisements,
chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for their products from time to
time, as long as it is orchid related and likely to be of interest to the
participants, I don't think there is any problem, and I hope that others
feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before posts a
message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at best marginally
related to his subject without bothering to even stick around to see

whether
anyone minds. Since what you did wasn't remotely like that, no problem

here.
Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was

advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/






Lady Blacksword 04-11-2004 12:10 AM

I agree w/ Joanna. And, being an artist myself, I'd like to offer
counter-encouragement to the comment awhile back, about your calendar being
too expensive.
It Isn't.
Read that a couple of times, and feel free to fluff up and preen.
People will always have a tendency to say something is "too pricey" when
they personally can't or won't afford it. I'll just be truthful - I'm an
artist (jewelry designer), and I can't afford to buy it. I'd love to have
your calendars, Prem, and I'd buy them for that price in a heartbeat, but,
honestly, I'm cheap. I'd rather buy an orchid in my splurge moment.
Keep up the good work and don't let nay-sayers get you down,
Murri

PS-
To all who think Prem's calendars are too expensive, trot your butts down to
Barnes and Noble, and see just how much they are charging for calendars,
many of them far inferior in photographic talent.
Then shut your face and give him the complements he deserves, instead of
stupid complaints.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:S1Lhd.4940$RA4.2775@trnddc06...
Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such as
yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in this

virtual
community and has posted many messages that are not just advertisements,
chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for their products from time to
time, as long as it is orchid related and likely to be of interest to the
participants, I don't think there is any problem, and I hope that others
feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before posts a
message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at best marginally
related to his subject without bothering to even stick around to see

whether
anyone minds. Since what you did wasn't remotely like that, no problem

here.
Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was

advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/






Frank ess 04-11-2004 01:57 AM

Lady Blacksword wrote:
....trot your butts
....Murri


too cute by half



Frank ess 04-11-2004 01:57 AM

Lady Blacksword wrote:
....trot your butts
....Murri


too cute by half



Lady Blacksword 04-11-2004 09:09 AM

*raised eyebrow*
Excuse me? Is that a pick-up line?
Murri

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Lady Blacksword wrote:
...trot your butts
...Murri


too cute by half





Lady Blacksword 04-11-2004 09:09 AM

*raised eyebrow*
Excuse me? Is that a pick-up line?
Murri

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Lady Blacksword wrote:
...trot your butts
...Murri


too cute by half





J Fortuna 04-11-2004 01:08 PM

Murri,
I was surprised by Frank's reply to your post, too. But then I re-read your
post, and you did write "trot your butts". And it is a phrase that is too
cute by half. And no, this is not a pickup line! :-)
Joanna

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
*raised eyebrow*
Excuse me? Is that a pick-up line?
Murri

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Lady Blacksword wrote:
...trot your butts
...Murri


too cute by half







K Barrett 04-11-2004 04:09 PM

Prem never comes here except to flog his stupid wares, so put that in your
pipe and smoke it MURRI.

K Barrett

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
I agree w/ Joanna. And, being an artist myself, I'd like to offer
counter-encouragement to the comment awhile back, about your calendar

being
too expensive.
It Isn't.
Read that a couple of times, and feel free to fluff up and preen.
People will always have a tendency to say something is "too pricey" when
they personally can't or won't afford it. I'll just be truthful - I'm an
artist (jewelry designer), and I can't afford to buy it. I'd love to have
your calendars, Prem, and I'd buy them for that price in a heartbeat, but,
honestly, I'm cheap. I'd rather buy an orchid in my splurge moment.
Keep up the good work and don't let nay-sayers get you down,
Murri

PS-
To all who think Prem's calendars are too expensive, trot your butts down

to
Barnes and Noble, and see just how much they are charging for calendars,
many of them far inferior in photographic talent.
Then shut your face and give him the complements he deserves, instead of
stupid complaints.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------------
"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:S1Lhd.4940$RA4.2775@trnddc06...
Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such as
yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in this

virtual
community and has posted many messages that are not just advertisements,
chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for their products from time to
time, as long as it is orchid related and likely to be of interest to

the
participants, I don't think there is any problem, and I hope that others
feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before posts a
message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at best

marginally
related to his subject without bothering to even stick around to see

whether
anyone minds. Since what you did wasn't remotely like that, no problem

here.
Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was

advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/








K Barrett 04-11-2004 04:09 PM

Prem never comes here except to flog his stupid wares, so put that in your
pipe and smoke it MURRI.

K Barrett

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
I agree w/ Joanna. And, being an artist myself, I'd like to offer
counter-encouragement to the comment awhile back, about your calendar

being
too expensive.
It Isn't.
Read that a couple of times, and feel free to fluff up and preen.
People will always have a tendency to say something is "too pricey" when
they personally can't or won't afford it. I'll just be truthful - I'm an
artist (jewelry designer), and I can't afford to buy it. I'd love to have
your calendars, Prem, and I'd buy them for that price in a heartbeat, but,
honestly, I'm cheap. I'd rather buy an orchid in my splurge moment.
Keep up the good work and don't let nay-sayers get you down,
Murri

PS-
To all who think Prem's calendars are too expensive, trot your butts down

to
Barnes and Noble, and see just how much they are charging for calendars,
many of them far inferior in photographic talent.
Then shut your face and give him the complements he deserves, instead of
stupid complaints.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------------
"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:S1Lhd.4940$RA4.2775@trnddc06...
Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such as
yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in this

virtual
community and has posted many messages that are not just advertisements,
chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for their products from time to
time, as long as it is orchid related and likely to be of interest to

the
participants, I don't think there is any problem, and I hope that others
feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before posts a
message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at best

marginally
related to his subject without bothering to even stick around to see

whether
anyone minds. Since what you did wasn't remotely like that, no problem

here.
Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was

advertising,
he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/








Frank ess 04-11-2004 04:39 PM

K Barrett wrote:
Prem never comes here except to flog his stupid wares, so put that in
your pipe and smoke it MURRI.

K Barrett

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
I agree w/ Joanna. And, being an artist myself, I'd like to offer
counter-encouragement to the comment awhile back, about your
calendar being too expensive.
It Isn't.
Read that a couple of times, and feel free to fluff up and preen.
People will always have a tendency to say something is "too pricey"
when they personally can't or won't afford it. I'll just be truthful
- I'm an artist (jewelry designer), and I can't afford to buy it.
I'd love to have your calendars, Prem, and I'd buy them for that
price in a heartbeat, but, honestly, I'm cheap. I'd rather buy an
orchid in my splurge moment.
Keep up the good work and don't let nay-sayers get you down,
Murri

PS-
To all who think Prem's calendars are too expensive, trot your butts
down to Barnes and Noble, and see just how much they are charging
for calendars, many of them far inferior in photographic talent.
Then shut your face and give him the complements he deserves,
instead of stupid complaints.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:S1Lhd.4940$RA4.2775@trnddc06...
Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such
as yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in
this virtual community and has posted many messages that are not
just advertisements, chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for
their products from time to time, as long as it is orchid related
and likely to be of interest to the participants, I don't think
there is any problem, and I hope that others feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before
posts a message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at
best marginally related to his subject without bothering to even
stick around to see whether anyone minds. Since what you did wasn't
remotely like that, no problem here. Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was
advertising, he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason to
apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


not here



Lady Blacksword 04-11-2004 09:04 PM

*grin* Sorry, I tend to type the way I speak when I'm ticked off, and I was
avoiding using "a*ses". But then, one man's figure of speech, is another
man's bellylaugh. (My apologies to R.A.H. for slaughtering his quote in the
name of conversation)
Glad to know it's not a pick-up line.
Murri

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:yRpid.283$2c5.237@trnddc01...
Murri,
I was surprised by Frank's reply to your post, too. But then I re-read

your
post, and you did write "trot your butts". And it is a phrase that is too
cute by half. And no, this is not a pickup line! :-)
Joanna

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
*raised eyebrow*
Excuse me? Is that a pick-up line?
Murri

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Lady Blacksword wrote:
...trot your butts
...Murri


too cute by half









Frank ess 04-11-2004 10:23 PM

Lady Blacksword wrote:
Perhaps you chose that insult because you have something smoking in
-your- pipe?
Prem spends 90% of his NG time sharing his knowledge and photography
of native Florida orchids. I haven't seen you being near so selfless.
In fact, you rarely share any knowledge, mostly just very infrequent
photos and snide side-notes. Oh, and since we had to mention
"flogging", you spend an awful lot of time "flogging" your ego, and
"morals". Maybe some of us ARE interested in Prem's "stupid wares."
Quit jeering those who give a lot more to this community than you do.
Murri

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:Nusid.363978$D%.144849@attbi_s51...
Prem never comes here except to flog his stupid wares, so put that
in your pipe and smoke it MURRI.

K Barrett

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
I agree w/ Joanna. And, being an artist myself, I'd like to offer
counter-encouragement to the comment awhile back, about your
calendar being too expensive.
It Isn't.
Read that a couple of times, and feel free to fluff up and preen.
People will always have a tendency to say something is "too pricey"
when they personally can't or won't afford it. I'll just be
truthful - I'm an artist (jewelry designer), and I can't afford to
buy it. I'd love to have your calendars, Prem, and I'd buy them for
that price in a heartbeat, but, honestly, I'm cheap. I'd rather buy
an orchid in my splurge moment.
Keep up the good work and don't let nay-sayers get you down,
Murri

PS-
To all who think Prem's calendars are too expensive, trot your
butts down to Barnes and Noble, and see just how much they are
charging for calendars, many of them far inferior in photographic
talent.
Then shut your face and give him the complements he deserves,
instead of stupid complaints.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-----------------------------
"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:S1Lhd.4940$RA4.2775@trnddc06...
Prem,
My two cents on this subject: I would think that if a person (such
as yourself or Ray, for example) who is a valuable participant in
this virtual community and has posted many messages that are not
just advertisements, chooses to post a brief non-obnoxious ad for
their products from time to time, as long as it is orchid related
and likely to be of interest to the participants, I don't think
there is any problem, and I hope that others feel the same.

What does bother me is if someone we have never heard of before
posts a message to this and a dozen other newsgroups which are at
best marginally related to his subject without bothering to even
stick around to see whether anyone minds. Since what you did
wasn't remotely like that, no problem here. Joanna

"prem_s" wrote in message
...
K Barrett wrote:
I know, next he'll plead innocent that he didn't realize it was
advertising, he only wanted to show how neat his calendars are.
K Barrett


Actually, I'll do no such thing...I was indeed advertising the
presence of my calendar to people who've seen my orchid
photography for a number of years. There's been a
long-standing (long before Mr./Ms./Mrs. Barrett showed up)
tradition on (at least) rec.gardens.orchids that posting a
URL to something new and interesting (like an update to your
own plant listing if you're a commercial vendor) is not
out-of-bounds. Posting the contents of your plant listing,
or posting the details of your orchid-related item
(specifications, price, etc.), directly to the nesgroup, on
the other hand, would be crossing the line.

Hence, since I did not cross this line on r.g.o, I see no reason
to apologize or excuse my actions. Now, if I've violated the
charters of the other newsgroups to which I've posted (of
which I'm admittedly less aware), then I would gladly offer
my sincere apologies for any offense caused.

--
---Prem
Orchid art, photography, t-shirts, and related products:
http://www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/


not here, please?



Al 04-11-2004 11:44 PM

I would have though the word was "flout" not flog. But I should talk:
somebody will to flout me with a wench. ...or flog me with one. That
might be fun, though probably not for the wench.

I have adjusted my header so my comments are only going to this newsgroup
alone (rec.gardens.orchids), rather then being cross-posted to four
newsgroups simultaneously. Even in this newsgroup some of us are more
aware then others of how long and deep the history of some participants go.
But I know that there must be lots of people in rec.gardens who don't have
any idea where any of this is coming from. When they say, "not here please"
they are not speaking of "Here"

And you have to forgive some of us for not joining in often enough to make
it look like we are participating. Believe me there are only so many orchid
questions and answers and comments and even this flare-up is a repeat to
some of us. But to those of you for whom all of this is new: have fun.

If I have to I will squeeze into my old purple spandex wrestling leotard and
step into the ring with you orchid newsgroup yearlings but I assure you that
I have grown considerably larger and though it may be made of a highly
stretchable fabric, the resulting explosion from a rip probably won't be as
humorous as it promises to be at first glance.

I know it is possible that nobody but me cares what my opinion is but I
share it anyway (if somewhat obscurely) because I like to type. And, yes, I
know what I am smoking isn't doing me any good either. I know that if I am
not having fun in the flames here I am at a disadvantage and should get out
fast. I also know that when I get tired of the non-orchid related subject
matter being discussed I have filters that can make it disappear and when I
turn them on it will seem as if I am gone but really it will be you all who
are gone.

In the mean time, in case I need it, I am going to go shake out the wresling
leotard and give it a good once over. If it should explode I don't want
nobody hit in the eye with a moth ball.

If you are reading this, you have read too far.



Al 04-11-2004 11:44 PM

I would have though the word was "flout" not flog. But I should talk:
somebody will to flout me with a wench. ...or flog me with one. That
might be fun, though probably not for the wench.

I have adjusted my header so my comments are only going to this newsgroup
alone (rec.gardens.orchids), rather then being cross-posted to four
newsgroups simultaneously. Even in this newsgroup some of us are more
aware then others of how long and deep the history of some participants go.
But I know that there must be lots of people in rec.gardens who don't have
any idea where any of this is coming from. When they say, "not here please"
they are not speaking of "Here"

And you have to forgive some of us for not joining in often enough to make
it look like we are participating. Believe me there are only so many orchid
questions and answers and comments and even this flare-up is a repeat to
some of us. But to those of you for whom all of this is new: have fun.

If I have to I will squeeze into my old purple spandex wrestling leotard and
step into the ring with you orchid newsgroup yearlings but I assure you that
I have grown considerably larger and though it may be made of a highly
stretchable fabric, the resulting explosion from a rip probably won't be as
humorous as it promises to be at first glance.

I know it is possible that nobody but me cares what my opinion is but I
share it anyway (if somewhat obscurely) because I like to type. And, yes, I
know what I am smoking isn't doing me any good either. I know that if I am
not having fun in the flames here I am at a disadvantage and should get out
fast. I also know that when I get tired of the non-orchid related subject
matter being discussed I have filters that can make it disappear and when I
turn them on it will seem as if I am gone but really it will be you all who
are gone.

In the mean time, in case I need it, I am going to go shake out the wresling
leotard and give it a good once over. If it should explode I don't want
nobody hit in the eye with a moth ball.

If you are reading this, you have read too far.



J Fortuna 04-11-2004 11:58 PM

Since I think some apologies are called for, I will start:

My apologies to rec.gardens and alt.binaries.pictures.gardens for continuing
this thread in all four groups -- I did not realize until a moment ago that
this thread went to 4 groups.

Most of the participants thus far have been regulars in rec.gardens.orchids
and alt.binaries.pictures.orchids (but I don't know how many or how few of
us hang in the other groups as well). Since I do not frequent the other
groups, I would not have replied to all groups if I had realized before that
all four groups were receiving this thread.

This is my last post to this thread.

Joanna

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
not here, please?




J Fortuna 04-11-2004 11:58 PM

Since I think some apologies are called for, I will start:

My apologies to rec.gardens and alt.binaries.pictures.gardens for continuing
this thread in all four groups -- I did not realize until a moment ago that
this thread went to 4 groups.

Most of the participants thus far have been regulars in rec.gardens.orchids
and alt.binaries.pictures.orchids (but I don't know how many or how few of
us hang in the other groups as well). Since I do not frequent the other
groups, I would not have replied to all groups if I had realized before that
all four groups were receiving this thread.

This is my last post to this thread.

Joanna

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
not here, please?




Lady Blacksword 05-11-2004 04:57 AM

I didn't realize there was cross posting till just now when Joanna said
something.
I likewise apologize.
Murri

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:Vmzid.530$mg1.22@trnddc02...
Since I think some apologies are called for, I will start:

My apologies to rec.gardens and alt.binaries.pictures.gardens for

continuing
this thread in all four groups -- I did not realize until a moment ago

that
this thread went to 4 groups.

Most of the participants thus far have been regulars in

rec.gardens.orchids
and alt.binaries.pictures.orchids (but I don't know how many or how few of
us hang in the other groups as well). Since I do not frequent the other
groups, I would not have replied to all groups if I had realized before

that
all four groups were receiving this thread.

This is my last post to this thread.

Joanna

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
not here, please?






Susan Erickson 05-11-2004 05:39 AM

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:44:48 -0500, "Al"
wrote:

In the mean time, in case I need it, I am going to go shake out the wresling
leotard and give it a good once over. If it should explode I don't want
nobody hit in the eye with a moth ball.

If you are reading this, you have read too far.


Sounds like we have a new generation going to the war.
Loved reading to this point. It was well worth a good laugh.
For the 'yearlings' not all of us Old Timers answer as many
questions as we used to. But then you don't always comment when
we do post. So we let you answer and only pop up when it is new,
interesting, or someone has taken a header into the swamp and no
one has rescued them.

I for one wish Prem would learn not to cross post to the world.
He never posts to less than 2 newsgroups at a time.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Susan Erickson 05-11-2004 05:39 AM

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:44:48 -0500, "Al"
wrote:

In the mean time, in case I need it, I am going to go shake out the wresling
leotard and give it a good once over. If it should explode I don't want
nobody hit in the eye with a moth ball.

If you are reading this, you have read too far.


Sounds like we have a new generation going to the war.
Loved reading to this point. It was well worth a good laugh.
For the 'yearlings' not all of us Old Timers answer as many
questions as we used to. But then you don't always comment when
we do post. So we let you answer and only pop up when it is new,
interesting, or someone has taken a header into the swamp and no
one has rescued them.

I for one wish Prem would learn not to cross post to the world.
He never posts to less than 2 newsgroups at a time.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

J. Del Col 05-11-2004 05:04 PM

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message ...
*grin* Sorry, I tend to type the way I speak when I'm ticked off, and I was
avoiding using "a*ses".


It was certainly better than "Trundle your buns."

J. Del Col

J. Del Col 05-11-2004 05:04 PM

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message ...
*grin* Sorry, I tend to type the way I speak when I'm ticked off, and I was
avoiding using "a*ses".


It was certainly better than "Trundle your buns."

J. Del Col


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