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Old 13-11-2004, 12:11 AM
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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow them? I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

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Old 13-11-2004, 12:29 AM
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Nepenthes: start with N. alata, and be prepared to grow it super bright,
warm, humid, and don't feed it.

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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow them?
I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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Nepenthes: start with N. alata, and be prepared to grow it super bright,
warm, humid, and don't feed it.

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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow them?
I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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Thanks for the help. I have an old aquarium I was planning to turn into a
terarrium, I hope that will keep it humid enough and the light will help
keep it warm and bright enough.

Shell


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Nepenthes: start with N. alata, and be prepared to grow it super bright,
warm, humid, and don't feed it.

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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will

phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow

them?
I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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Thanks for the help. I have an old aquarium I was planning to turn into a
terarrium, I hope that will keep it humid enough and the light will help
keep it warm and bright enough.

Shell


"Ray" wrote in message
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Nepenthes: start with N. alata, and be prepared to grow it super bright,
warm, humid, and don't feed it.

--

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"Shell" wrote in message
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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will

phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow

them?
I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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I don't think a terrarium is a good idea,

Nepenthes need a LOT of light - along the lines of vandas. How are you
going to do that in a terrarium?

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"Shell" wrote in message
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Thanks for the help. I have an old aquarium I was planning to turn into a
terarrium, I hope that will keep it humid enough and the light will help
keep it warm and bright enough.

Shell


"Ray" wrote in message
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Nepenthes: start with N. alata, and be prepared to grow it super bright,
warm, humid, and don't feed it.

--

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"Shell" wrote in message
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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will

phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow

them?
I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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I don't think a terrarium is a good idea,

Nepenthes need a LOT of light - along the lines of vandas. How are you
going to do that in a terrarium?

--

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"Shell" wrote in message
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Thanks for the help. I have an old aquarium I was planning to turn into a
terarrium, I hope that will keep it humid enough and the light will help
keep it warm and bright enough.

Shell


"Ray" wrote in message
...
Nepenthes: start with N. alata, and be prepared to grow it super bright,
warm, humid, and don't feed it.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
.
"Shell" wrote in message
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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will

phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow

them?
I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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Old 13-11-2004, 07:15 AM
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There's already a lot of light in my computer room and I have 2 plant
lights, plus I thought I would rig up some extra flourescents and the old
aquarium light. My middle name is Rig It I will figure something out.

My real problem is rigging up a night box of some kind for my Christmas
cactus so I can get it to set buds. It's a fairly large plant

Shell


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I don't think a terrarium is a good idea,

Nepenthes need a LOT of light - along the lines of vandas. How are you
going to do that in a terrarium?

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"Shell" wrote in message
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Thanks for the help. I have an old aquarium I was planning to turn into

a
terarrium, I hope that will keep it humid enough and the light will help
keep it warm and bright enough.

Shell


"Ray" wrote in message
...
Nepenthes: start with N. alata, and be prepared to grow it super

bright,
warm, humid, and don't feed it.

--

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"Shell" wrote in message
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I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its

mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will

phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow

them?
I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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Old 13-11-2004, 07:31 AM
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Shell wrote:

I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow them? I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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I have a Nepenthes (not sure which one, as the label doesn't say)
growing in fine bark. I keep it pretty damp and feed it any slugs or
bugs I find on my plants. Give it lots of room, as mine currently has
two eight-foot growths with about twenty-five pods each. I keep mine on
the top shelf of the center isle of my greenhouse, so it gets lots of
light.
Good luck with yours.

Jerry
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Shell wrote:

I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will phal
mix be ok?

My other question is about Nepenthes plants. Does anyone here grow them? I
need all the advice I can get on them.

Thaks in advance

Shell


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I have a Nepenthes (not sure which one, as the label doesn't say)
growing in fine bark. I keep it pretty damp and feed it any slugs or
bugs I find on my plants. Give it lots of room, as mine currently has
two eight-foot growths with about twenty-five pods each. I keep mine on
the top shelf of the center isle of my greenhouse, so it gets lots of
light.
Good luck with yours.

Jerry


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Old 13-11-2004, 07:37 AM
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I had thought neps take a lot of light- and they do, in many
cases, to grow them well. However, a nepenthes hybrid I have growing on my
desk at work is no closer than 8' away from fluorescent lights, shoved
back into a corner next to an aquarium with a paltry 15 watt bulb (which
it can't possibly be getting much light from), inside a plastic container
that can't be transmitting too much light. I use the plastic tub only to
keep the humidity up, since it's normally around 9% during the day out
here in the desert.

While I wouldn't say it's thriving, it is throwing pitchers and
otherwise doing quite well.

While many mature neps require lots of room, young ones are easy
enough to protect and grow well in a terrarium. I grow a number in vitro,
and they're kept at the same light as the orchids- about 14" away from
twin 40-watt fluorescent tubes.

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I had thought neps take a lot of light- and they do, in many
cases, to grow them well. However, a nepenthes hybrid I have growing on my
desk at work is no closer than 8' away from fluorescent lights, shoved
back into a corner next to an aquarium with a paltry 15 watt bulb (which
it can't possibly be getting much light from), inside a plastic container
that can't be transmitting too much light. I use the plastic tub only to
keep the humidity up, since it's normally around 9% during the day out
here in the desert.

While I wouldn't say it's thriving, it is throwing pitchers and
otherwise doing quite well.

While many mature neps require lots of room, young ones are easy
enough to protect and grow well in a terrarium. I grow a number in vitro,
and they're kept at the same light as the orchids- about 14" away from
twin 40-watt fluorescent tubes.

The address in the header is bogus. Send no e-mail there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ


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"Ray" wrote in message ...
I don't think a terrarium is a good idea,

Nepenthes need a LOT of light - along the lines of vandas. How are you
going to do that in a terrarium?


Before I had my greenhouse, I grew many Nepenthes in terrariums or
under fluorescent light. Humidity, not light, seems to be the biggest
limiting factor indoors, so a terrarium or grow chamber can help. In
the greenhouse, I grow them in a variety of exposures, from bright
light at the top of the greenhouse to shadier spots with the Paphs.

A bigger problem than light is that Nepenthes are typically BIG plants
and will rapidly outgrow most terraria. Some people keep seedlings
and trade them out when they get too big. That's not really
satisfactory IMO, because then you never see the really mature
pitchers.

N. alata and especially its hybrid N. Ventrata are well suited to
windowsill or under-lights culture.

In a smaller terrarium, try Nepenthes gracilis or N. ampullaria. N.
gracilis is a miniature scrambler. N. ampullaria produces very long
vines. However, it also produces rosettes of pitches at ground level,
and the climbing vines can be pruned.

Lowland and intermediate altitude plants are best for indoor growers.
A centrally heated house is too warm for most highlanders.


Regards,

Nick
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"Ray" wrote in message ...
I don't think a terrarium is a good idea,

Nepenthes need a LOT of light - along the lines of vandas. How are you
going to do that in a terrarium?


Before I had my greenhouse, I grew many Nepenthes in terrariums or
under fluorescent light. Humidity, not light, seems to be the biggest
limiting factor indoors, so a terrarium or grow chamber can help. In
the greenhouse, I grow them in a variety of exposures, from bright
light at the top of the greenhouse to shadier spots with the Paphs.

A bigger problem than light is that Nepenthes are typically BIG plants
and will rapidly outgrow most terraria. Some people keep seedlings
and trade them out when they get too big. That's not really
satisfactory IMO, because then you never see the really mature
pitchers.

N. alata and especially its hybrid N. Ventrata are well suited to
windowsill or under-lights culture.

In a smaller terrarium, try Nepenthes gracilis or N. ampullaria. N.
gracilis is a miniature scrambler. N. ampullaria produces very long
vines. However, it also produces rosettes of pitches at ground level,
and the climbing vines can be pruned.

Lowland and intermediate altitude plants are best for indoor growers.
A centrally heated house is too warm for most highlanders.


Regards,

Nick
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"Shell" wrote in message .com...
I just got a Schlumburgkia brysiana and I want to take it off its mount,
it's wired to a piece of bark like stuff, and I want to pot it. Will phal
mix be ok?


Your Schomburgkia really will be much happier mounted. They tend to
be moderately xerophytic plants, so they will tolerate dry indoor
conditions while mounted. Most of the potted plants I've seen look a
bit funny, because the orientation of the pseudobulbs is better suited
to a mount. If you must pot, use an open mix (coarse bark, aliflor,
large perlite, or charcoal chunks). Your Phal mix may be O.K., but I
would avoid any pro-mix or peat-based mixes.

Regards,

Nick
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