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I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD
discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? http://www.alternet.org/story/20666/ http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2...ian/index.html K Barrett |
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I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD
discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? IMO, this is politics at its worst. An awful lot of supposition on the part of the writers what is in other people's heads. I claim no affiliation here in either direction - I keep that strictly out of rgo - but whatever one's leanings there is no doubt whatsoever about where Bill Moyers stands. Are there some Americans who believe the things he ascribed to them? Probably, as there are Americans who believe that nobody should own property, and there are Americans who think the earth is flat, and there are Americans who think that our computers are actualy infiltrating our minds (well, okay, maybe that part is true, LOL!). Personally, I'm getting quite tired of the demonization on both sides of this argument. Regardless of who I vote for, or who you vote for, can anyone honestly think either of us wants dirty air and dead animals? Apparently some people believe just that about those on the other side of their views, and I think it's getting pretty old. Democrats do not want Communism, and Republicans do not want to starve grandma. The true ideologues reside in the chattering classes, and both sides can take their cases elsewhere. Just my 2 cents. Diana |
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I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD
discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? IMO, this is politics at its worst. An awful lot of supposition on the part of the writers what is in other people's heads. I claim no affiliation here in either direction - I keep that strictly out of rgo - but whatever one's leanings there is no doubt whatsoever about where Bill Moyers stands. Are there some Americans who believe the things he ascribed to them? Probably, as there are Americans who believe that nobody should own property, and there are Americans who think the earth is flat, and there are Americans who think that our computers are actualy infiltrating our minds (well, okay, maybe that part is true, LOL!). Personally, I'm getting quite tired of the demonization on both sides of this argument. Regardless of who I vote for, or who you vote for, can anyone honestly think either of us wants dirty air and dead animals? Apparently some people believe just that about those on the other side of their views, and I think it's getting pretty old. Democrats do not want Communism, and Republicans do not want to starve grandma. The true ideologues reside in the chattering classes, and both sides can take their cases elsewhere. Just my 2 cents. Diana |
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K Barrett wrote: I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? http://www.alternet.org/story/20666/ http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2...ian/index.html K Barrett Are what true? The fact that Moyers made the speech? The facts, allegations and/or references in the speech? Something else? I don't know if all the specific allegations are true but if you question their credibility just because they sound too bizarre to be true - think again!! Mike (The email address is real, but I very rarely check it so don't count on it.) |
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K Barrett wrote: I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? http://www.alternet.org/story/20666/ http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2...ian/index.html K Barrett Are what true? The fact that Moyers made the speech? The facts, allegations and/or references in the speech? Something else? I don't know if all the specific allegations are true but if you question their credibility just because they sound too bizarre to be true - think again!! Mike (The email address is real, but I very rarely check it so don't count on it.) |
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"Mike" wrote in message
oups.com... K Barrett wrote: I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? http://www.alternet.org/story/20666/ http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2...ian/index.html K Barrett Are what true? The fact that Moyers made the speech? The facts, allegations and/or references in the speech? Something else? I don't know if all the specific allegations are true but if you question their credibility just because they sound too bizarre to be true - think again!! Mike (The email address is real, but I very rarely check it so don't count on it.) Yeah, I was questioning their credibility becasue I thought they were too bizzarre to be true. Guess I'd better think again. Thanks OK, let's get back on topic K |
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"Mike" wrote in message
oups.com... K Barrett wrote: I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? http://www.alternet.org/story/20666/ http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2...ian/index.html K Barrett Are what true? The fact that Moyers made the speech? The facts, allegations and/or references in the speech? Something else? I don't know if all the specific allegations are true but if you question their credibility just because they sound too bizarre to be true - think again!! Mike (The email address is real, but I very rarely check it so don't count on it.) Yeah, I was questioning their credibility becasue I thought they were too bizzarre to be true. Guess I'd better think again. Thanks OK, let's get back on topic K |
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"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
ink.net... I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? IMO, this is politics at its worst. An awful lot of supposition on the part of the writers what is in other people's heads. I claim no affiliation here in either direction - I keep that strictly out of rgo - but whatever one's leanings there is no doubt whatsoever about where Bill Moyers stands. Are there some Americans who believe the things he ascribed to them? Probably, as there are Americans who believe that nobody should own property, and there are Americans who think the earth is flat, and there are Americans who think that our computers are actualy infiltrating our minds (well, okay, maybe that part is true, LOL!). Personally, I'm getting quite tired of the demonization on both sides of this argument. Regardless of who I vote for, or who you vote for, can anyone honestly think either of us wants dirty air and dead animals? Apparently some people believe just that about those on the other side of their views, and I think it's getting pretty old. Democrats do not want Communism, and Republicans do not want to starve grandma. The true ideologues reside in the chattering classes, and both sides can take their cases elsewhere. Just my 2 cents. Diana Well I used to think that none of us wanted dirty air and dead animals until I read these articles, and now I'm left wondering about that and also wondering whose ox is being gored by the articles in the 1st place... so I'm confused. Thanks Diana. OK, Back to orchids, K |
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"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
ink.net... I'm not sure what to make of these articles. I got the links from the OGD discussion. I've been pondering them ever since. Think they are true? IMO, this is politics at its worst. An awful lot of supposition on the part of the writers what is in other people's heads. I claim no affiliation here in either direction - I keep that strictly out of rgo - but whatever one's leanings there is no doubt whatsoever about where Bill Moyers stands. Are there some Americans who believe the things he ascribed to them? Probably, as there are Americans who believe that nobody should own property, and there are Americans who think the earth is flat, and there are Americans who think that our computers are actualy infiltrating our minds (well, okay, maybe that part is true, LOL!). Personally, I'm getting quite tired of the demonization on both sides of this argument. Regardless of who I vote for, or who you vote for, can anyone honestly think either of us wants dirty air and dead animals? Apparently some people believe just that about those on the other side of their views, and I think it's getting pretty old. Democrats do not want Communism, and Republicans do not want to starve grandma. The true ideologues reside in the chattering classes, and both sides can take their cases elsewhere. Just my 2 cents. Diana Well I used to think that none of us wanted dirty air and dead animals until I read these articles, and now I'm left wondering about that and also wondering whose ox is being gored by the articles in the 1st place... so I'm confused. Thanks Diana. OK, Back to orchids, K |
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In article . net,
"Diana Kulaga" wrote: Personally, I'm getting quite tired of the demonization on both sides of this argument. Regardless of who I vote for, or who you vote for, can anyone honestly think either of us wants dirty air and dead animals? Apparently some people believe just that about those on the other side of their views, and I think it's getting pretty old. Democrats do not want Communism, and Republicans do not want to starve grandma. The true ideologues reside in the chattering classes, and both sides can take their cases elsewhere. Just my 2 cents. Diana i don't think it's a matter of "wanting", i think it's a matter of simply not giving a damn, with the result that we get the dirty air and the dead animals. no, i don't think anyone's going out and actively seeking these things, but they'e refusing to do things to avoid these outcomes. --j_a |
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