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Phalguy 29-05-2005 05:20 AM

Need advice on Cattleya!
 
hello everyone!

One of my patient gave me a bare root NOID Cattleya last night. The plant
comes from the montreal botanical garden and has 2 buds.

I planted it into S/H and I was wondering if I could put it outside knowing
that now the average temp is about 20 C durind Day and 12 to 15 C at night!
If not, is under my fluorescent will be enough?
Also, is the morning sun will be ok! ( 08 to 11 )

Thanks

Claude

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Reka 29-05-2005 09:56 AM

Phalguy schrieb:
hello everyone!

One of my patient gave me a bare root NOID Cattleya last night. The plant
comes from the montreal botanical garden and has 2 buds.

I planted it into S/H and I was wondering if I could put it outside knowing
that now the average temp is about 20 C durind Day and 12 to 15 C at night!
If not, is under my fluorescent will be enough?
Also, is the morning sun will be ok! ( 08 to 11 )

Thanks

Claude

Claude, I would say that the temperatures are okay, supposing they will
get higher as summer progresses. IF the 12°C are minimum temps and not
average. Mine have been out for a while now and down to 9°C at night,
but I wouldn't feel safe letting them get any colder.
Anyone else have input?

--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html

Susan Erickson 29-05-2005 01:44 PM

On Sun, 29 May 2005 00:20:18 -0400, "Phalguy"
wrote:

hello everyone!

One of my patient gave me a bare root NOID Cattleya last night. The plant
comes from the montreal botanical garden and has 2 buds.

I planted it into S/H and I was wondering if I could put it outside knowing
that now the average temp is about 20 C durind Day and 12 to 15 C at night!
If not, is under my fluorescent will be enough?
Also, is the morning sun will be ok! ( 08 to 11 )

Thanks

Claude


A wild guess. IF the plant is from the gardens it has been grown
in good strong light. The leaves are very hard and feel like
shoe leather and are a lighter green. If so it can probably take
all that light. But if the leaves are a rich lush green, it has
not been getting great light. I might take a chance, but I would
feel better if you could find somewhere with broken shadows
instead. Is there anything, even a chair back, that could cast a
moving shadow across this location?

I am a bit touchy about sunburn today - having sunburned me.

Congratulations, and good luck.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Phalguy 29-05-2005 02:10 PM

Thanl you!

The leaves are very leathery and are a nice pale green. I placed it on my
balcony where it can get lots of shadowed light! I`ll see!
There is an old cane where I can see an old flower spike, yhen another cane
with a kind of capsule with 2 buds ( don`t remember the name of it ) and a
third cane which seems to grow another capsule!

Does almost all Cattleya are flagrant?

Claude


"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
| On Sun, 29 May 2005 00:20:18 -0400, "Phalguy"
| wrote:
|
| hello everyone!
|
| One of my patient gave me a bare root NOID Cattleya last night. The plant
| comes from the montreal botanical garden and has 2 buds.
|
| I planted it into S/H and I was wondering if I could put it outside
knowing
| that now the average temp is about 20 C durind Day and 12 to 15 C at
night!
| If not, is under my fluorescent will be enough?
| Also, is the morning sun will be ok! ( 08 to 11 )
|
| Thanks
|
| Claude
|
| A wild guess. IF the plant is from the gardens it has been grown
| in good strong light. The leaves are very hard and feel like
| shoe leather and are a lighter green. If so it can probably take
| all that light. But if the leaves are a rich lush green, it has
| not been getting great light. I might take a chance, but I would
| feel better if you could find somewhere with broken shadows
| instead. Is there anything, even a chair back, that could cast a
| moving shadow across this location?
|
| I am a bit touchy about sunburn today - having sunburned me.
|
| Congratulations, and good luck.
| SuE
| http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php



Steve 29-05-2005 03:50 PM

Reka wrote:

Phalguy schrieb:

hello everyone!

One of my patient gave me a bare root NOID Cattleya last night. The
plant comes from the montreal botanical garden and has 2 buds.

I planted it into S/H and I was wondering if I could put it outside
knowing that now the average temp is about 20 C durind Day and 12 to
15 C at night! If not, is under my fluorescent will be enough?
Also, is the morning sun will be ok! ( 08 to 11 )

Thanks

Claude

Claude, I would say that the temperatures are okay, supposing they will
get higher as summer progresses. IF the 12°C are minimum temps and not
average. Mine have been out for a while now and down to 9°C at night,
but I wouldn't feel safe letting them get any colder.
Anyone else have input?



Yeah, I do.
I think a Catt that is bare root AND has 2 buds on it is going to need a
little extra caution if those buds are going to progress to flowers.
(I'm assuming, Claude, that you really mean flower buds and not new
leads developing.)
I would leave it under the fluorescent lights until it blooms then move
it outside for the rest of the summer. If you didn't mean that it has
flower buds it still might be a good idea to keep it in for a while so
it can get established. Remember, I live just a couple of hours down the
road from you and we both know we are prone to some cool nights for a
while longer.
I will say that since you use semi-hydro I would worry a little less
about water stress and so, worry less about going from bare root to
outside in a short time. Also, it's just one plant so it's easy to just
bring it back in if we get some cold or windy weather. (I've almost
talked myself into telling you to leave it outside.) :-)

Steve (in the Adirondacks)





Reka 29-05-2005 05:46 PM

Phalguy schrieb:
Thanl you!

The leaves are very leathery and are a nice pale green. I placed it on my
balcony where it can get lots of shadowed light! I`ll see!
There is an old cane where I can see an old flower spike, yhen another cane
with a kind of capsule with 2 buds ( don`t remember the name of it ) and a
third cane which seems to grow another capsule!

Does almost all Cattleya are flagrant?

Claude, I have seen a photo of you and you don't look Chinese! ;-)
I think you meant fragrant. There are unfortunately lots of Cattleyas
that *aren't* fragrant.

--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html

Susan Erickson 29-05-2005 06:25 PM

On Sun, 29 May 2005 09:10:59 -0400, "Phalguy"
wrote:

Thanl you!

The leaves are very leathery and are a nice pale green. I placed it on my
balcony where it can get lots of shadowed light! I`ll see!
There is an old cane where I can see an old flower spike, yhen another cane
with a kind of capsule with 2 buds ( don`t remember the name of it ) and a
third cane which seems to grow another capsule!

Does almost all Cattleya are flagrant?

Claude


The 'capsule' with the buds is a sheath. If you can see the bud
shadows the development is well along. I hope the division has
some roots to support this so your buds will not blast. Good
luck and please try to post a photo of the blooms. Sounds like
you have a good place to summer the Catt. If you summer it
outside, It should bloom regularly for you even if it gets less
than optimum light under the grow lights in the winter.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Phalguy 29-05-2005 06:26 PM

Hello Reka!

Ah ah ah ! I`m solly ! :-)

Claude

"Reka" wrote in message
...
| Phalguy schrieb:
| Thanl you!
|
| The leaves are very leathery and are a nice pale green. I placed it on
my
| balcony where it can get lots of shadowed light! I`ll see!
| There is an old cane where I can see an old flower spike, yhen another
cane
| with a kind of capsule with 2 buds ( don`t remember the name of it ) and
a
| third cane which seems to grow another capsule!
|
| Does almost all Cattleya are flagrant?
| Claude, I have seen a photo of you and you don't look Chinese! ;-)
| I think you meant fragrant. There are unfortunately lots of Cattleyas
| that *aren't* fragrant.
|
| --
| Reka
|
| This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
| http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html



Phalguy 31-05-2005 01:27 AM

hello everyone!

I have decided to put the plant on windowsill until it finished blooming!
One bud is starting to open ! I`ll try to post some picture!

Claude

"Steve" wrote in message
...
| Reka wrote:
|
| Phalguy schrieb:
|
| hello everyone!
|
| One of my patient gave me a bare root NOID Cattleya last night. The
| plant comes from the montreal botanical garden and has 2 buds.
|
| I planted it into S/H and I was wondering if I could put it outside
| knowing that now the average temp is about 20 C durind Day and 12 to
| 15 C at night! If not, is under my fluorescent will be enough?
| Also, is the morning sun will be ok! ( 08 to 11 )
|
| Thanks
|
| Claude
|
| Claude, I would say that the temperatures are okay, supposing they will
| get higher as summer progresses. IF the 12°C are minimum temps and not
| average. Mine have been out for a while now and down to 9°C at night,
| but I wouldn't feel safe letting them get any colder.
| Anyone else have input?
|
|
| Yeah, I do.
| I think a Catt that is bare root AND has 2 buds on it is going to need a
| little extra caution if those buds are going to progress to flowers.
| (I'm assuming, Claude, that you really mean flower buds and not new
| leads developing.)
| I would leave it under the fluorescent lights until it blooms then move
| it outside for the rest of the summer. If you didn't mean that it has
| flower buds it still might be a good idea to keep it in for a while so
| it can get established. Remember, I live just a couple of hours down the
| road from you and we both know we are prone to some cool nights for a
| while longer.
| I will say that since you use semi-hydro I would worry a little less
| about water stress and so, worry less about going from bare root to
| outside in a short time. Also, it's just one plant so it's easy to just
| bring it back in if we get some cold or windy weather. (I've almost
| talked myself into telling you to leave it outside.) :-)
|
| Steve (in the Adirondacks)
|
|
|
|



Phalguy 04-06-2005 04:17 PM

Hello again!

Both buds are now open, it`s a white florer with yellow lip! It has a very
nice fragrance, kind of a mix between lilac and lilly of the valley!

I followed your advice and lifted the plant a bit. Now, I can see where the
cane are attached to the rhizome. Is this ok?

Thanks

Claude

"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
| On Sun, 29 May 2005 09:10:59 -0400, "Phalguy"
| wrote:
|
| Thanl you!
|
| The leaves are very leathery and are a nice pale green. I placed it on my
| balcony where it can get lots of shadowed light! I`ll see!
| There is an old cane where I can see an old flower spike, yhen another
cane
| with a kind of capsule with 2 buds ( don`t remember the name of it ) and
a
| third cane which seems to grow another capsule!
|
| Does almost all Cattleya are flagrant?
|
| Claude
|
|
| The 'capsule' with the buds is a sheath. If you can see the bud
| shadows the development is well along. I hope the division has
| some roots to support this so your buds will not blast. Good
| luck and please try to post a photo of the blooms. Sounds like
| you have a good place to summer the Catt. If you summer it
| outside, It should bloom regularly for you even if it gets less
| than optimum light under the grow lights in the winter.
| SuE
| http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php



Reka 04-06-2005 04:39 PM

Phalguy schrieb:
Hello again!

Both buds are now open, it`s a white florer with yellow lip! It has a very
nice fragrance, kind of a mix between lilac and lilly of the valley!

I followed your advice and lifted the plant a bit. Now, I can see where the
cane are attached to the rhizome. Is this ok?


Good deal, Claude! It sounds nice. Pics on abpo, puh-leez!! :-)

--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html

Bob Walsh 04-06-2005 07:10 PM

Reka,

Someone stole his camera. :(

Bob
"Reka" wrote in message
...
Phalguy schrieb:
Hello again!

Both buds are now open, it`s a white florer with yellow lip! It has a
very nice fragrance, kind of a mix between lilac and lilly of the valley!

I followed your advice and lifted the plant a bit. Now, I can see where
the cane are attached to the rhizome. Is this ok?


Good deal, Claude! It sounds nice. Pics on abpo, puh-leez!! :-)

--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html




Reka 04-06-2005 09:12 PM

Bob Walsh schrieb:
Reka,

Someone stole his camera. :(

Pooh! That's no excuse! He'll come up with a pic, right, Claude?
--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html

Phalguy 04-06-2005 09:18 PM

Hello!

:-)

I`m working on that!

Claude

"Reka" wrote in message
...
| Bob Walsh schrieb:
| Reka,
|
| Someone stole his camera. :(
|
| Pooh! That's no excuse! He'll come up with a pic, right, Claude?
| --
| Reka
|
| This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
| http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html



Susan Erickson 04-06-2005 11:01 PM

On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:18:07 -0400, "Phalguy"
wrote:

Hello!

:-)

I`m working on that!

Claude

"Reka" wrote in message
...
| Bob Walsh schrieb:
| Reka,
|
| Someone stole his camera. :(
|
| Pooh! That's no excuse! He'll come up with a pic, right, Claude?
| --
| Reka
|
| This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
| http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html


It is all a matter of faith. We grow orchids - we must have
faith - or we would not try.

It sounds like it will works Claude.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php


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