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Mick Fournier 08-06-2005 03:25 AM

Cattleya mossiae semi alba
 
Dear Friends,

I think I speak for us all when I say that deep down in own hearts we all
desire and covet one orchid genus above all others ... and that is the
Cattleyas.

The Cattleya mossiae are in bloom now and I must say this particular species
is truly regal in its appearance. Wouldn't you agree this Cattleya mossiae
semi alba (Aurora x Blanca) is superb.

Click on:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/f...urxblanca2.jpg

Mick Fournier
HBI, Producers of Fine Orchids in Flask
www.OrchidFlask.com




danny 08-06-2005 04:48 AM

It's very nice, but I really don't covet Catts above other genera.
-danny

"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
...
Dear Friends,

I think I speak for us all when I say that deep down in own hearts we all
desire and covet one orchid genus above all others ... and that is the
Cattleyas.

The Cattleya mossiae are in bloom now and I must say this particular
species
is truly regal in its appearance. Wouldn't you agree this Cattleya
mossiae
semi alba (Aurora x Blanca) is superb.

Click on:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/f...urxblanca2.jpg

Mick Fournier
HBI, Producers of Fine Orchids in Flask
www.OrchidFlask.com






Mick Fournier 08-06-2005 05:43 AM

Danny,

Then you are sadly lost and doomed to drift alone in the dark abyss far, far
away.

Mick



Rob 08-06-2005 02:07 PM

Mick Fournier wrote:
Dear Friends,

I think I speak for us all when I say that deep down in own hearts we all
desire and covet one orchid genus above all others ... and that is the
Cattleyas.


Cattleyas are orchids? Where is the pouch?

The Cattleya mossiae are in bloom now and I must say this particular species
is truly regal in its appearance. Wouldn't you agree this Cattleya mossiae
semi alba (Aurora x Blanca) is superb.


It is indeed quite nice... I particularly like the two-tone lip.

Rob


--
Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit


Ray 08-06-2005 02:49 PM

Down with your big, bold, and brassy cattleyas..;) g
Pleurothallids and miniatures rule all..:)

That said, it's a nice flower. Now, let's see...cross it with Encyclia
tampense to bring down the flower size...;) g

Ray Lloyd

Mick Fournier wrote:
Dear Friends,

I think I speak for us all when I say that deep down in own hearts we all
desire and covet one orchid genus above all others ... and that is the
Cattleyas.

The Cattleya mossiae are in bloom now and I must say this particular species
is truly regal in its appearance. Wouldn't you agree this Cattleya mossiae
semi alba (Aurora x Blanca) is superb.

Click on:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/f...urxblanca2.jpg

Mick Fournier
HBI, Producers of Fine Orchids in Flask
www.OrchidFlask.com





danny 08-06-2005 02:54 PM

Well, yeah, I already knew _that_ :-)

Actually, it is the endless variety of forms, colors, and scents that
attracted me to orchids. I like looking at Cattleyas (and especially Laelia
purpurata), but I'm also very fond of Maxillaria, Catasetum, Gongora,
Paphiopedilum, Phalaenopsis, and the ornate little Pleurothallid-alliance
flowers. If I could figure out how to grow those darn Neofinetias I'd
probably like them too. I finally bloomed my Sedirea, it smells wonderful.
-danny

"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
. ..
Danny,

Then you are sadly lost and doomed to drift alone in the dark abyss far,
far
away.

Mick





salgud 08-06-2005 03:03 PM

Mick,
I must admit, you're right. If I'm not exactly like you, my life is
lost and I am doomed to an empty existence!

Mick Fournier wrote:
Danny,

Then you are sadly lost and doomed to drift alone in the dark abyss far, far
away.

Mick



[email protected] 08-06-2005 08:37 PM

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:07:10 -0400 in Rob wrote:


It is indeed quite nice... I particularly like the two-tone lip.


Looks like a three-tone lip to me.

Rob




--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil

Diana Kulaga 08-06-2005 09:19 PM

I adore Cattleyas in general, and mossiae is one of the especially wonderful
Catts. This is a good thing, as I would hate to be lost forever, far, far
away. That said, I also love Vandas, Dends, Encyclias, Epis, and, um, some
others.....

Diana



Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 12:15 AM

Danny,

Sedirea spelled backwards is Aerides. I bloomed an Aerides quinquevulnerum
var purpurea two weeks ago.

Click on:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/f...ridesquin1.jpg

I sell these in flask on my website.

If you can bloom Sedirea... then what's the big deal over blooming out
Neofinetia falcata?

Mick

=========================

"danny" wrote in message
. ..
Well, yeah, I already knew _that_ :-)

Actually, it is the endless variety of forms, colors, and scents that
attracted me to orchids. I like looking at Cattleyas (and especially

Laelia
purpurata), but I'm also very fond of Maxillaria, Catasetum, Gongora,
Paphiopedilum, Phalaenopsis, and the ornate little Pleurothallid-alliance
flowers. If I could figure out how to grow those darn Neofinetias I'd
probably like them too. I finally bloomed my Sedirea, it smells

wonderful.
-danny

"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
. ..
Danny,

Then you are sadly lost and doomed to drift alone in the dark abyss far,
far
away.

Mick







Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 12:18 AM

Salgud,

Yes it is so sad but true. But don't fret, in your next life you will know
the pitfalls to watch out for... so take consolation in knowing that.

Mick
=================


"salgud" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick,
I must admit, you're right. If I'm not exactly like you, my life is
lost and I am doomed to an empty existence!

Mick Fournier wrote:
Danny,

Then you are sadly lost and doomed to drift alone in the dark abyss far,

far
away.

Mick





Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 12:28 AM

Ray,

Ooooo Ray, that hurt. I am no longer a hybridizer. I put some pollen from
a blue ribbon (2003 Redlands show) Cattleya mossiae var coerulea on this
plant and the pod has already started. I think that is going to be my cross
of choice on this stud plant.

Mick

========================



"Ray" wrote in message
nk.net...
Down with your big, bold, and brassy cattleyas..;) g
Pleurothallids and miniatures rule all..:)

That said, it's a nice flower. Now, let's see...cross it with Encyclia
tampense to bring down the flower size...;) g

Ray Lloyd




Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 12:31 AM

Diana,

Riiiiight. I am sure "lots" of others... rather than just "some" others.

Mick

======================


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
I adore Cattleyas in general, and mossiae is one of the especially

wonderful
Catts. This is a good thing, as I would hate to be lost forever, far, far
away. That said, I also love Vandas, Dends, Encyclias, Epis, and, um, some
others.....

Diana





Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 12:41 AM

Rob,

Yes, there is always one poucher in the group at the least. Ah well... in
due time you too shall come back into the fold where you belong. Some day I
will be posting blooming pictures of the Cattleya percivaliana coeruleas I
have in flask now and you too will succumb to the Cattleya siren.

Mick



danny 09-06-2005 12:43 AM

For some reason the Neofinetias are a bit touchy for me (and many other
people in Atlanta). I haven't gotten them to keep their roots in my CHC mix
or in semi-hydro, I just repotted them into sphagnum to see if that works.

The Sedirea is nice for growing under lights. Some of the Aerides plants
I've seen are kinda big and viny for my conditions.

-danny

"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
...
Danny,

Sedirea spelled backwards is Aerides. I bloomed an Aerides
quinquevulnerum
var purpurea two weeks ago.

Click on:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/f...ridesquin1.jpg

I sell these in flask on my website.

If you can bloom Sedirea... then what's the big deal over blooming out
Neofinetia falcata?

Mick




danny 09-06-2005 12:47 AM

I've had to take judging photos of Ervin Granier's plants and I still
haven't become a Cattleya nut. Of course part of the reason is I can't grow
many of them under lights. Maybe someday when I have a greenhouse...
-danny

"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
. ..
Rob,

Yes, there is always one poucher in the group at the least. Ah well... in
due time you too shall come back into the fold where you belong. Some day
I
will be posting blooming pictures of the Cattleya percivaliana coeruleas I
have in flask now and you too will succumb to the Cattleya siren.

Mick





Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 04:38 AM

Danny,

Neofinetia falcata don't grow in semi hydro or sphagnum moss east of the
Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon. I have seen only a couple of
California growers able to start and maintain some juveniles in sphagnum
moss and then only if the plastic pot is an airy web pot. You need a teak
or cedar basket instead. Tie the plant firmly to the inside of the wood
basket and pop some chopped cubes of coarse coconut husk into the basket.

Mick

=========================

"danny" wrote in message
. ..
For some reason the Neofinetias are a bit touchy for me (and many other
people in Atlanta). I haven't gotten them to keep their roots in my CHC

mix
or in semi-hydro, I just repotted them into sphagnum to see if that works.

The Sedirea is nice for growing under lights. Some of the Aerides plants
I've seen are kinda big and viny for my conditions.

-danny

"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
...
Danny,

Sedirea spelled backwards is Aerides. I bloomed an Aerides
quinquevulnerum
var purpurea two weeks ago.

Click on:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/f...ridesquin1.jpg

I sell these in flask on my website.

If you can bloom Sedirea... then what's the big deal over blooming out
Neofinetia falcata?

Mick






Dave S 09-06-2005 05:43 AM

Mick,

I'm not fully versed on Cattleya genetics. What color form(s) would you
expect from a cross of a coerulea on the semi-alba?

My Cattleya mossiae semi-alba didn't spike this year...probably upset
by our move last fall. It is absolutely stunning when it does...as is
the one in the photo you posted. Hard to beat those big, showy Cattleya
species.

Dave

Mick Fournier wrote:
Ray,

Ooooo Ray, that hurt. I am no longer a hybridizer. I put some pollen from
a blue ribbon (2003 Redlands show) Cattleya mossiae var coerulea on this
plant and the pod has already started. I think that is going to be my cross
of choice on this stud plant.

Mick



Susan Erickson 09-06-2005 06:02 AM

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:38:59 -0400, "Mick Fournier"
wrote:

Danny,

Neofinetia falcata don't grow in semi hydro or sphagnum moss east of the
Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon. I have seen only a couple of
California growers able to start and maintain some juveniles in sphagnum
moss and then only if the plastic pot is an airy web pot. You need a teak
or cedar basket instead. Tie the plant firmly to the inside of the wood
basket and pop some chopped cubes of coarse coconut husk into the basket.

Mick


The basket I agree on - but I like to make it very small and prop
them high in the basket with moss under them - sort of the
traditional mound. When I had coarse husk in the basket they had
a tendency to settle down in below the top edge. Then they
pouted.
They are worth all the fuss Danny.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Susan Erickson 09-06-2005 06:03 AM

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:15:50 -0400, "Mick Fournier"
wrote:

Danny,

Sedirea spelled backwards is Aerides. I bloomed an Aerides quinquevulnerum
var purpurea two weeks ago.

Click on:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/f...ridesquin1.jpg

I sell these in flask on my website.

If you can bloom Sedirea... then what's the big deal over blooming out
Neofinetia falcata?

Mick


Fabulous! Almost worth the fuss of a flask. I am not a seedling
person. My gh gets too cold at night.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 12:49 PM

Sue,

Famed NF grower Cal Early in Korea likes to put them on top of a mound also
as I recall... good suggestion. I recently set one basket up of NF (Syoujou
Red x Amani Pink) using that mound concept with a ball of coconut fiber
(coir) below and it is working well also.

Mick

----------------------------

"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:38:59 -0400, "Mick Fournier"
wrote:

Danny,

Neofinetia falcata don't grow in semi hydro or sphagnum moss east of the
Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon. I have seen only a couple of
California growers able to start and maintain some juveniles in sphagnum
moss and then only if the plastic pot is an airy web pot. You need a

teak
or cedar basket instead. Tie the plant firmly to the inside of the wood
basket and pop some chopped cubes of coarse coconut husk into the basket.

Mick


The basket I agree on - but I like to make it very small and prop
them high in the basket with moss under them - sort of the
traditional mound. When I had coarse husk in the basket they had
a tendency to settle down in below the top edge. Then they
pouted.
They are worth all the fuss Danny.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php




danny 09-06-2005 01:32 PM

I guess I'll have to try the "mound of moss" in a small net pot. Thanks for
the suggestions.
-danny

"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
. ..
Sue,

Famed NF grower Cal Early in Korea likes to put them on top of a mound
also
as I recall... good suggestion. I recently set one basket up of NF
(Syoujou
Red x Amani Pink) using that mound concept with a ball of coconut fiber
(coir) below and it is working well also.

Mick

----------------------------

"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:38:59 -0400, "Mick Fournier"
wrote:

Danny,

Neofinetia falcata don't grow in semi hydro or sphagnum moss east of the
Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon. I have seen only a couple of
California growers able to start and maintain some juveniles in sphagnum
moss and then only if the plastic pot is an airy web pot. You need a

teak
or cedar basket instead. Tie the plant firmly to the inside of the wood
basket and pop some chopped cubes of coarse coconut husk into the
basket.

Mick


The basket I agree on - but I like to make it very small and prop
them high in the basket with moss under them - sort of the
traditional mound. When I had coarse husk in the basket they had
a tendency to settle down in below the top edge. Then they
pouted.
They are worth all the fuss Danny.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php






Rob 09-06-2005 01:43 PM

Mick Fournier wrote:
Rob,

Yes, there is always one poucher in the group at the least. Ah well... in
due time you too shall come back into the fold where you belong. Some day I
will be posting blooming pictures of the Cattleya percivaliana coeruleas I
have in flask now and you too will succumb to the Cattleya siren.

Mick



Actually Mick (or anybody), what do you know about C. harrisoniae? I
have one that is blooming out an almost magenta, hot-pink kind of color.
Is that a real color for harrisoniae? These are out of a 'compot' (of
plants which were all blooming size) from Lenette's.

http://littlefrogfarm.com/images/C_harrisoniae.jpg

The photo makes it out to be far more blue than it actually is... It
does have a little bit of blue in the hot-pink.

--
Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit


Mick Fournier 09-06-2005 11:10 PM

Dave,

I am sure the intellectual scientifcos will dispute my estimates with some
dam facts based on their old high school science books. You know, I always
hate to have to go and look at an intellectual scientifco's greenhouse to
give an opinion on something... all the plants look like dried up shit, but
they can sure quote the exact specifications for what technically "should
have grown" for them.

But I would hope for:

25% coerulea
25% semi alba
25% coerulescens
25% normal

My estimates are based on experience... not genetic theory.

Mick
www.OrchidFlask.com

=============================

"Dave S" wrote in message
ups.com...
Mick,

I'm not fully versed on Cattleya genetics. What color form(s) would you
expect from a cross of a coerulea on the semi-alba?

My Cattleya mossiae semi-alba didn't spike this year...probably upset
by our move last fall. It is absolutely stunning when it does...as is
the one in the photo you posted. Hard to beat those big, showy Cattleya
species.

Dave

Mick Fournier wrote:
Ray,

Ooooo Ray, that hurt. I am no longer a hybridizer. I put some pollen

from
a blue ribbon (2003 Redlands show) Cattleya mossiae var coerulea on this
plant and the pod has already started. I think that is going to be my

cross
of choice on this stud plant.

Mick





Ray 10-06-2005 03:29 AM


Just teasing, Mick..:) The cattleya is gorgeous and I hope that the
cross you are making blooms well and grows magnificently for you... :)
Have a great day...:)
Ray Lloyd

Mick Fournier wrote:

Ray,

Ooooo Ray, that hurt. I am no longer a hybridizer. I put some pollen


from

a blue ribbon (2003 Redlands show) Cattleya mossiae var coerulea on this
plant and the pod has already started. I think that is going to be my


cross

of choice on this stud plant.

Mick





Dave S 10-06-2005 06:37 AM

Thanks Mick....experience wins over theory in the real world.

The few C. mossiae v. coerulea plants I have seen have smaller flowers
than the type or semi-albas, but the flowers lasted longer. I guess one
could hope for the best of all worlds to pass onto a few seedlings. Big
coeruleas and a semi-alba that lasts for a month!

Dave


Mick Fournier 10-06-2005 12:29 PM

Dave,

Thaaaaaat's the new objective.

Mick

====================

"Dave S" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks Mick....experience wins over theory in the real world.

The few C. mossiae v. coerulea plants I have seen have smaller flowers
than the type or semi-albas, but the flowers lasted longer. I guess one
could hope for the best of all worlds to pass onto a few seedlings. Big
coeruleas and a semi-alba that lasts for a month!

Dave




Dave S 10-06-2005 04:29 PM

I'll be in touch for a flask when they ready....

Dave



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