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Have I FINALLY made it back here, or is the new provider a fizzer too?
If I have made it back; Hi to all the old regulars (and the new ones too :-)) |
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g'day fran,
welcome back, have you got any new tricks on making it rain huh chuckle len On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:19:34 +1100, "Fran" wrote: Have I FINALLY made it back here, or is the new provider a fizzer too? If I have made it back; Hi to all the old regulars (and the new ones too :-)) -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/ |
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"Fran" wrote in message u... Have I FINALLY made it back here, Sorry ..No try again :-) I can see that you are still the same old Pete :-)) I read your post at google about the hardships caused by the drought and how the goats had gone. Sorry to hear it and that you are now a horse slave (been there done that!). Hope things are on the improve rain wise. We went over your way recently (spent 2 hours in the Hills and then turned round and drove right back here dragging an old Series 1) and the Hay Plains were looking simply glooooorrrriouuus. Never seen so much feed or lushness, but I'll bet it's all hayed off by now. |
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"len gardener" wrote in message
g'day fran, How do Len? Any luck with the sale yet (or shouldn't I be asking)? welcome back, have you got any new tricks on making it rain huh chuckle Well I must be holding my mouth right. We have had enough showers to keep us going till now and to fill up all the dams and the house tanks. My garden is also looking quite reasonable too, buuuttt, it is now starting to reach the serious start of the heat. It's cloudy overhead now and they are forcasting showers today so I'm hoping we might get the odd 10ml (this has been the norm with the odd 30ml thrown in). It is now time to finally put in the cucurbits so I need to get the planting areas looking a bit more friendly for tender seedlings. Have the toms in - they went in in 32degrees C with ghastly hot dry winds blowing. They didn't miss a beat 'cos I gave then a good drink with seedweed emulsion before I planted them and then watered them with it and covered them with shade cloth for a day. Had another win too in the veg garden. I've been ignoring the garden totally over winter and forgot that I had planted a fig in there which I had intended to cosset and cover formt he frosts. I forgot din I! Anyway the mustard greens had gone really feral and they were about as big as a house and so saved the poor little fig. I was particularly keen on saving the fig as we had found one very old tree, with a few figs on it, growing in the middle of State Forest at an abandoned house site (house went sometime in the '60s). I figured if the fig could survive uncared for and still fruiting in the middle of a drought where it was then it would be a good one to have in the garden,. I took 5 cuttings and managed to get 3 to grow so I don't want to lose any of them. Any sight or sound of Tara on the list? |
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g'day fran.
i've been working real hard on a personal problem i had this was impacting heavily on our relationship, so now that things are looking much much better the property is off the market. we are both doing MYOB courses i have finished my bit so hope to do BAS work for small businesses from home and bev when she finishes hopes to get a job in town, all this so we can live with dignity just can't do that on the pension. we've been doing heaps around here, if you check the property pics page on our site then check our tree plantings we've planted around 160 euc's mainly nad a few casuarinas in the past few months, as money is tight all these where freebies ie.,. seedlings dug up from places where they would be in the road later and transplanted to were they are needed most. been doing salshing to get mulch so bulk mulching has ben going on still got more to do but now that sanke season has started got to bwe careful, saw our first for the season the other day and it had to be a bady our first sighting in 3 years, and eastern brown. been doing summer plantings since second week in september so got the pumpkins, cuces, melons & tom's etc.,. all growing well decided to just plant all tom' seeds we had in stock in a mass planting and yes you guessed it they all germinated, try planting and orderly amount none come up lol. so at presente have planted out 146 tom' plants, sounds more like a farm hey. the contour ripping we did they act like temp' swales but are still working 2 years later, worked very well it has enabled us to get more wet into the sub layers of soil, so keeps our block looking that much greener that much longer. the cattle went from here in early feb this year so the grasses look great a good mixture for when we will be able to buy a couple of beefers to fatten for ourselves and maybe a couple of pigs as well. ted & sheena are doing well up at howard haven't seen them for a few weeks now but they have all but finished renovating the house and are still moving in, ted has yet to empty the 40 foot container he has on site and still ahs another in brissy to come up and be unloaded big job there. haven't seen tara around for a while but then a lot of the oldies seem to be away or very quiet for the past period, a very quiet group is this one at present. anyway i'm waffling on now chat again real soon, anytime i'm always here and looking. good to see our mate pete back again. water is going to be a problem until we get some rain happening we have done well with rain this year and so far this seasons rain has surpassed last years, currently the annual total is running at just over 800mm against an all up last year of 670mm so a few good falls could easily take us to the 1mtr mark. just that there is so much wind in between showers reckon we would do ok if we only had sun and heat to contend with, but the wind is the real killer. take care len n bev snipped -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/ |
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g'day fran.
i've been working real hard on a personal problem i had this was impacting heavily on our relationship, so now that things are looking much much better the property is off the market. we are both doing MYOB courses i have finished my bit so hope to do BAS work for small businesses from home and bev when she finishes hopes to get a job in town, all this so we can live with dignity just can't do that on the pension. we've been doing heaps around here, if you check the property pics page on our site then check our tree plantings we've planted around 160 euc's mainly nad a few casuarinas in the past few months, as money is tight all these where freebies ie.,. seedlings dug up from places where they would be in the road later and transplanted to were they are needed most. been doing salshing to get mulch so bulk mulching has ben going on still got more to do but now that sanke season has started got to bwe careful, saw our first for the season the other day and it had to be a bady our first sighting in 3 years, and eastern brown. been doing summer plantings since second week in september so got the pumpkins, cuces, melons & tom's etc.,. all growing well decided to just plant all tom' seeds we had in stock in a mass planting and yes you guessed it they all germinated, try planting and orderly amount none come up lol. so at presente have planted out 146 tom' plants, sounds more like a farm hey. the contour ripping we did they act like temp' swales but are still working 2 years later, worked very well it has enabled us to get more wet into the sub layers of soil, so keeps our block looking that much greener that much longer. the cattle went from here in early feb this year so the grasses look great a good mixture for when we will be able to buy a couple of beefers to fatten for ourselves and maybe a couple of pigs as well. ted & sheena are doing well up at howard haven't seen them for a few weeks now but they have all but finished renovating the house and are still moving in, ted has yet to empty the 40 foot container he has on site and still ahs another in brissy to come up and be unloaded big job there. haven't seen tara around for a while but then a lot of the oldies seem to be away or very quiet for the past period, a very quiet group is this one at present. anyway i'm waffling on now chat again real soon, anytime i'm always here and looking. good to see our mate pete back again. water is going to be a problem until we get some rain happening we have done well with rain this year and so far this seasons rain has surpassed last years, currently the annual total is running at just over 800mm against an all up last year of 670mm so a few good falls could easily take us to the 1mtr mark. just that there is so much wind in between showers reckon we would do ok if we only had sun and heat to contend with, but the wind is the real killer. take care len n bev snipped -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/ |
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"Fran" wrote in message u... I read your post at google about the hardships caused by the drought and how the goats had gone. Sorry to hear it and that you are now a horse slave (been there done that!). Hope things are on the improve rain wise. It's been a bugger of a year really Fran but thats what makes this land of drought and flooding rains so interesting. We went over your way recently (spent 2 hours in the Hills and then turned round and drove right back here dragging an old Series 1) and the Hay Plains were looking simply glooooorrrriouuus. Never seen so much feed or lushness, but I'll bet it's all hayed off by now. The Hills properties looked great (thats where most of the hoss rides are) they always seem to get the best rain and the best sunshine ... maybe a case of the grass is always greener eh .... but it is I tells ya.. Everything is crunchy dry here now though, we've had a bit of everything cold, heat, humidity, high winds .. you name it, the ground has dried so quickly, I just get through telling folks it's raining and it gets hot and dry ... or that it's hot... and the temp dives again so I should have kept my gob shut about the place coping with the lack of water cos it isn't just at this very nanosecond .... ok it's changed already ..... Good to see ya back Fran ........ now where did ya put Janet? Pete --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 10/11/2003 |
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"Fran" wrote in message u... I read your post at google about the hardships caused by the drought and how the goats had gone. Sorry to hear it and that you are now a horse slave (been there done that!). Hope things are on the improve rain wise. It's been a bugger of a year really Fran but thats what makes this land of drought and flooding rains so interesting. We went over your way recently (spent 2 hours in the Hills and then turned round and drove right back here dragging an old Series 1) and the Hay Plains were looking simply glooooorrrriouuus. Never seen so much feed or lushness, but I'll bet it's all hayed off by now. The Hills properties looked great (thats where most of the hoss rides are) they always seem to get the best rain and the best sunshine ... maybe a case of the grass is always greener eh .... but it is I tells ya.. Everything is crunchy dry here now though, we've had a bit of everything cold, heat, humidity, high winds .. you name it, the ground has dried so quickly, I just get through telling folks it's raining and it gets hot and dry ... or that it's hot... and the temp dives again so I should have kept my gob shut about the place coping with the lack of water cos it isn't just at this very nanosecond .... ok it's changed already ..... Good to see ya back Fran ........ now where did ya put Janet? Pete --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 10/11/2003 |
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"Fran" wrote in message u... Have I FINALLY made it back here, Sorry ..No try again :-) or is the new provider a fizzer too? If I have made it back; Hi to all the old regulars (and the new ones too :-)) Well Hi to you too and welcome back --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 10/11/2003 |
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from "pete" contains these words: Good to see ya back Fran ........ now where did ya put Janet? I'm here, I was just standing sideways. Janet |
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"len gardener" wrote in message
i've been working real hard on a personal problem i had this was impacting heavily on our relationship, so now that things are looking much much better the property is off the market. Glad to hear that things are on the improve Len. I do recall you mentioning this in the past. My regards to Bev. we are both doing MYOB courses ...bev when she finishes hopes to get a job in town, Good luck with the paid work and improving the financial situation. It isn't ever going to be easy trying to get things done on the land if money is tight but I gather from what you've said in the past, you are a pretty handy sort of bloke who is not only good at recycling but can work quietly on towards a goal. It all takes time Len and it is best to just quietly enjoy the journey and try not to worry too much or let things get to you. So long as you are both good to, and for, each other then I think that is the most important thing - all the rest will come in time. Remember just how much you have managed to do in the short time you've been there. I've always been impressed with your progress, so don't beat up on yourself if things aren't proceeding as quick as you would like. we've been doing heaps around here, if you check the property pics page on our site then check our tree plantings we've planted around 160 euc's mainly nad a few casuarinas in the past few months, as money is tight all these where freebies ie.,. seedlings dug up from places where they would be in the road later and transplanted to were they are needed most. Have you done any seed harvesting at all from any of the local trees? I have a friend who is constantly doing this and he manages to propogate a lot of natives from harvesting pods. I think I will try it this year with some acacias we planted int he wind break round the veg garden last year. Some have grown like stink and are now 10 ft tall despite the lousy droughty conditions. We bucketed water to them for ages till I had a really good find at the tip one day - metres and metres of half inch PVC tubing complete with drippers already attached. Himself, who absolutely HATES my tip scavenging habits, quickly got over his prejudices and snaffled it all for HIS windbreak (not "our" of course despite the fact that I was the slave of all work in the planting of the windbreak). Of course my objections that I had dragged the sodding stuff home for MY purposes and the watering of the fruit trees to stop hose dragging was dismissed as totally unimportant. Anyway the upshot is that I notice that the accacias all have lots of seed pods ont ehm so I think I'll try a bit of germinating this year when the pods mature. I also have callistamon which gives heaps of seeds so if you want some pods from it let me know and I can send you some. BTW, how did all the other stuff I sent go over the long term? been doing salshing to get mulch so bulk mulching has ben going on Don't you find this is a problem for spreading weeds about? or do dyou slash before the seed heads get a chance to form? still got more to do but now that sanke season has started got to bwe careful, saw our first for the season the other day and it had to be a bady our first sighting in 3 years, and eastern brown. Yuck! I loath all snakes but Eastern Browns have got to be right up there with the nastiest. Too edgy for my liking. I always feel very nervous for a few days after I see a Joe Blake but then I also know that it is the ones I don't see that will be a real problem. Speaking of snakes: I had to put my poor little JRs into the dog run the other day (rotten little toads have taken to gettting onto the road and one has nearly been dognapped but rescued by Himelf from the nappers front passenger seat just in the nick of time) and I had already put them in the run and was just dumping some feed into their bowl. I looked up into the half water tank that serves as a shelter and there, in the back of it, was a tiger snake. I don't know what made me look as I never bother to check out the pen, but thankfully I did. I promptly grabbed the boys and headed backwards and as I did so the snake slid towards me and under the raised bed that the boys use! I still haven't been back to check if it is living under the bed but I will be off to buy some rat shot for the gun. I may be a lousy shot but I figure I can get him with rat shot at that sort of distance. been doing summer plantings since second week in september so got the pumpkins, cuces, melons & tom's etc.,. all growing well decided to just plant all tom' seeds we had in stock in a mass planting and yes you guessed it they all germinated, try planting and orderly amount none come up lol. so at presente have planted out 146 tom' plants, sounds more like a farm hey. :-)) Now ain't that the truth! What sort of rockies do you plant? I'd like to have a go at them this year but I will have to search hard round here to find some seedlings - not a very usual thing here. the contour ripping we did they act like temp' swales but are still working 2 years later, worked very well it has enabled us to get more wet into the sub layers of soil, so keeps our block looking that much greener that much longer. Sounds like it works well then. ted & sheena are doing well up Please give my regards to them when you next see them and tell Ted that I bought myself 2 compost tumblers. They sure take the back break out of turning compost. haven't seen tara around for a while but then a lot of the oldies seem to be away or very quiet for the past period, a very quiet group is this one at present. 'Cos google was so frustrating to use I must admit that I didn't check the group as often as I should have. I did notice that a lot of the oldies were mising but then there have been a fair number of new names too. And lets face it Len, this was never a big volume list anyway. It was a good list for getting to know people and what they were up to (and who was sane and who wasn't :-)) anyway i'm waffling on now chat again real soon, anytime i'm always here and looking. good to see our mate pete back again. Yeah it is. I wonder if he is using one of his old hand crank computer or if he has moved into the steam age by now. water is going to be a problem until we get some rain happening we have done well with rain this year and so far this seasons rain has surpassed last years, currently the annual total is running at just over 800mm against an all up last year of 670mm so a few good falls could easily take us to the 1mtr mark. Well today I have wonderful news. Not only is it STILL raining, but up until 9 am this morning we had had 59 mm of rain in this current cloud burst. Of course, half of our driveway is now on its way down the inland waterways heading for the mythical Inland Sea, but at least everything has had the most deliciious watering. Things will go like stink now for a while. just that there is so much wind in between showers reckon we would do ok if we only had sun and heat to contend with, but the wind is the real killer. Yes, I agree. I've never known such winds as we've had in the last few years. take care Ditto to you mate, look after your good lady. |
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"pete" wrote in message
"Fran" wrote in message Hope things are on the improve rain wise. It's been a bugger of a year really Fran but thats what makes this land of drought and flooding rains so interesting. Sorry to hear that Pete. I hope that at least the fishing has made up for it............. We went over your way recently (spent 2 hours in the Hills The Hills properties looked great (thats where most of the hoss rides are) they always seem to get the best rain and the best sunshine ... maybe a case of the grass is always greener eh .... but it is I tells ya.. I believe you Pete, but also given the horrific fires we had over this way last year, I can say that I would be ratehr worried if I lived there in the height of the fire season. I must be very worrying. Everything is crunchy dry here now though, we've had a bit of everything cold, heat, humidity, high winds .. you name it, the ground has dried so quickly, I just get through telling folks it's raining and it gets hot and dry ... or that it's hot... and the temp dives again so I should have kept my gob shut about the place coping with the lack of water cos it isn't just at this very nanosecond .... ok it's changed already ..... I know what you mean about the variety of weather. I've had the different weight duvets on and off the bed like the proverbial whore's..... wash my mouth out! I forgot this is a 'naice' group but I'm sure you understand what I mean. Yep, the only thing we haven't had is the cruchy underfoot stuff yet. Bit too early here yet for that but I'd bet London to a brick on that we'll get it before the new year. Good to see ya back Fran ........ Thanks Pete. now where did ya put Janet? Phew! That's an impossible one to know. I don't think anyone would have an easy time of putting Janet anywhere that Janet didn't want to be. |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
The message from "pete" contains these words: Good to see ya back Fran ........ now where did ya put Janet? I'm here, I was just standing sideways. Thought you were looking rather svelte - must be all the garden work. Just what delights have you got planned for your new Island Paradise Patch? |
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from "Fran" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message The message from "pete" contains these words: Good to see ya back Fran ........ now where did ya put Janet? I'm here, I was just standing sideways. Thought you were looking rather svelte - must be all the garden work. Just what delights have you got planned for your new Island Paradise Patch? Less grass and more beds, just about sums it up; but am currently employed in the Great Leap Forward towards indoor civilisation. I have blisters on my knees :-( from crawling about staining and varnishing the newly sanded floorboards. Janet. |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:50:07 +1100, "Fran"
wrote: "snipped yep and lookin better all the time, me and me behavioral problems hey? snipped towards a goal. yep but handy runs out when resources such as usable or needed material aren't around, nothing of worth gets dumped at our landfill tip, and no second hand places around that are close at hand. and when it looked like that selling was the only out a lot of baby went out with the bath water. snipped quick as you would like. yep there are certainly some noticable changes around here all for the better, even some of our early tree plantings are looking noticable, of course the citrus and stone fruit orchid looks a dream those trees are growing up a storm and giving us fruit in season. snipped of natives from harvesting pods. the only harvesting is of the seedlings that appear around the place, will need to gain knowledge on seed collection and germination, would also like to do tip cuttings as well, but don't have anywhere outside the house where i can set up and get going. snipped dragging was dismissed as totally unimportant. be good to get some useful stuff from the tip then bev doesn't like me scavenging. got some casuarina seedlings off of ted a few weeks back potted them and have now just planted them out as they all survived the shock of transplanting. must try and get up and see them this week if possible after the rain we had last night getting seedlings will be easier. ted also wants some more of his citronella grass the first lot i tookkhim all died, plus he wants more pigeon peas seeds as well. snipped want some pods from it let me know and I can send you some. i would need to find out how to germinate them but yes all donations gratefully accepted, we are wanting to create an area of cas's and white cedar + whatever else for the black cockatoos, we see quiet a few yellow tailed one's but very few red tailed one's. had the luxury of having 4 reds spend some time around our place and next door last week they where eating the black acacia seeds. BTW, how did all the other stuff I sent go over the long term? most is doing very well now after a shaky start, the rhubarb only 2 clumps but growing real strong and good eating is doing great, now that i moved it to a better spot divided it a bit and lost most but the 2 are quiet large clumps now. i did give a clump away to a desperate rhubarb lover and then nearly paid the price by losing what we had left you sent 5 i think we then had 3 then after the donation 2, which i split into 9 and the rest is history. lost a lot of comfry due to heat, no water and no rain when we only had temp' conditions, but have some nice stuff out of that still going now only not sure if it was your comfry or ours that survived or even a bit of both chuckle. ted was baby sitting some comfry for us before he moved so we got that back and that is going like a steam train have already given ted a lot of it back again. the tansy is coming on nice again this year winter was a bit rugged for it this year but it is spreading but not rampant our sandy soil and drier conditions keep it in temper. last but not least the horse radish sadly succumbed to drought conditions, and we thought it was invincibale, so we never got to using it's cullenary delights. but now with mass mulching the soil is holding better moisture so all things are doing great, just picked another mess of r/barb and still got enough to pick for another couple of deserts or so. we don't eat lots of it. snipped slash before the seed heads get a chance to form? any weeds we've got have been spasmodic nothing of note even had bails with lots of scotch thistle seed in but very few germinated anyway for us if it grows and its gree then the ='s nitrogen and trace elements and plant food. we've even collected huge amounts of that milk weed cotton weed and put it through the mulcher direct to the ground but no regrowth from it. there's bound to be some extra grasses here and there from all the different sources, but it all gets recycled into our system somehow somewhere. ted got some kahki weed from fodder bails he bought now that's a nasty little thing to get rid of, i did get one little patch that i was able do dig up and burn, but by and large with continual mulching no more weeds than waht we had first off. reckon we've put at least hundreds of bails through here by now. snipped don't see that will be a real problem. not being fleet of foot we are vey wary of snakes so the dogs keep us close company they usually see them first, don't mind seeing the red-bellied blacks they are quiet docile and easy to well you know, haven't seen a tiger on the dam for a couple years now did have 3 at one time but that's another story. haven't seen any monty pythons at all seen a few olive tree snakes. but the eastern brown our first sighting ever they put the wind up us at least for a couple of days our awareness is hightened, they are rapid fire movers and very dangerous. but this one has probably kept right on going and we may never see it again well that's what the experts say. snipped with rat shot at that sort of distance. you have dog nappers wow low types hey, that snake probably long gone by now maybe. some neighbours here lost a jr but i reckoned it may have gotten a lead aspirin for it's habit of killing other peoples chooks off even after repeated complaints by those to the it's owners. snipped find some seedlings - not a very usual thing here. got a canteloup and an un-named heirloom snipped Sounds like it works well then. yup for immidiate action ripping is the go especially in sandy soils, should do well for heavy clays as well and far less work than making a proper trench type swale also less impact on the immidiate terrian. most of the mulch is layed in long rows along the tree lines these also act as swales. snipped will do snipped who wasn't :-)) yes it was excellent for meeting cyber pals we used to have lots of chat going on, that became part of my daily routine so do miss it a bit but hey this is great maybe we will inspire huh? snipped last i heard he was peddling a push bike generator or somethin' huh chuckle, sorry pete only jokin' huh lol snipped while. we got some long awaited rain last night 6.25mm in all and no follow up on the horizon so hoping for a storm tonight to consolidate waht we ahve. snipped good to be chatting see ya len n bev -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/ |
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Hi guys,
Good to read you all and what you're up to. It's weird reading about spring down under as we have moved into winter now. I've uploaded some more 2003 season pics from our place here in Eire to the website http://www.ibiblio.org/permaculture-...clogher03.html I haven't had the time to work on other sections, such as useful plants, livestock, books so contributions from old and new alt.pc subscribers are welcome. Any format is ok, I can do the html coding, just send it to me by email. Formatting and uploading is a quick job, it's just the writing that I never get around to. We get a lot of hits / referrals from Len's pages and from Lawrence London's pages, as well as from search engines of course. That must mean that there are a lot of folks looking for info on permaculture, especially practical examples and pics. Let's give 'em something! The main page is at http://www.ibiblio.org/permaculture-online/index.html Cheers, Ute |
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g'day ute,
that's great to hear that pc is still drawing lots of interest, was looking like it may ahve been waning a bit with the ng being so quiet and the other own.eco group all but defunk, also i am in a pc forum that is very quiet, do get a bit of stuff coming through from pc pacific rim newsletter group, but all in all not exactly on fire. take care len snipped -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/ |
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"Ute Bohnsack" wrote in message ... Hi guys, Good to read you all and what you're up to. It's weird reading about spring down under as we have moved into winter now. I've uploaded some more 2003 season pics from our place here in Eire to the website http://www.ibiblio.org/permaculture-...clogher03.html I haven't had the time to work on other sections, such as useful plants, livestock, books so contributions from old and new alt.pc subscribers are welcome. Any format is ok, I can do the html coding, just send it to me by email. Formatting and uploading is a quick job, it's just the writing that I never get around to. We get a lot of hits / referrals from Len's pages and from Lawrence London's pages, as well as from search engines of course. That must mean that there are a lot of folks looking for info on permaculture, especially practical examples and pics. Let's give 'em something! The main page is at http://www.ibiblio.org/permaculture-online/index.html Cheers, Ute Hiya Ute Loved the pictures and the info, thankyou for these. The goats look cute ... I want some I notice I can access the upload area on the site but can't access the download or read docs part, wouldn't it be more useful the other way round? so people can download and read the articles but not upload any without authorisation? Pete --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 21/11/2003 |
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"len gardener" wrote in message
yep but handy runs out when resources such as usable or needed material aren't around, Don't ya just hate that? Obviously you live where too many people know the value of having a good PUS pile. Round here people still throw out good stuff - too many well off people with aspirations of living a TV lifestyle. yep there are certainly some noticable changes around here all for the better, even some of our early tree plantings are looking noticable, of course the citrus and stone fruit orchid looks a dream those trees are growing up a storm and giving us fruit in season. That all sounds quite excellent progress. Let us know when you do some more pics of the plants for your site. I have a lemon which has now survived 2 winters but it hasn't grown at all. I'm going to start feeding it lots and see if it will get a wriggle on. I has flowers now but now more new leaves. I might ask Himself to start peeing on it as the last duty before goign to bed. I seem to remember from somewhere that this is supposed to be very good for lemons. Last yearw e planted 2 apples and they have taken off like rockets and my eating grape is also doing well so I'm pleased with them. got some casuarina seedlings off of ted Lovely trees -always make me think of poetry as Paterson writes of the wind in the casuarina trees. want some pods from it let me know and I can send you some. i would need to find out how to germinate them but yes all donations gratefully accepted, Accacias are dead easy. All you do is drop the seeds into freshly boiled water (poured from thekettle into some sort of container) add the seeds, leave to soak overnight and then plant in seed raising mix next day and keep warmish till they germinate. we are wanting to create an area of cas's and white cedar + whatever else for the black cockatoos, we see quiet a few yellow tailed one's but very few red tailed one's. had the luxury of having 4 reds spend some time around our place and next door last week they where eating the black acacia seeds. Wow - sounds glorious. I love the black cockies. I don't think I've ever seen thered tailed ones but we certainly get the big yellow tailed ones. The fly over screeching and raving to each other every now and then. last but not least the horse radish sadly succumbed to drought conditions, and we thought it was invincibale, so we never got to using it's cullenary delights. Well that is a surprise. Mine is certainly being as tough as an old boot. Let me know your snail addy and I'll send you some more horseradish and the pods as they become ripe. |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
Less grass and more beds, just about sums it up; but am currently employed in the Great Leap Forward towards indoor civilisation. I have blisters on my knees :-( from crawling about staining and varnishing the newly sanded floorboards. Yeah yeah, we believe you, though we know that most people would think you'd just been grovelling for some reason. |
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from "Fran" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message Less grass and more beds, just about sums it up; but am currently employed in the Great Leap Forward towards indoor civilisation. I have blisters on my knees :-( from crawling about staining and varnishing the newly sanded floorboards. Yeah yeah, we believe you, though we know that most people would think you'd just been grovelling for some reason. The winning side doesn't grovel :-))))))))))))))) Smug commiserations to all you Aussies. Janet |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
... The message from "Fran" contains these words: Yeah yeah, we believe you, though we know that most people would think you'd just been grovelling for some reason. The winning side doesn't grovel :-))))))))))))))) Smug commiserations to all you Aussies. Aaaah, the Thugby. Must admit that I didn't lower myself sufficiently to watch it. (Meoooow) |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
... The message from "Fran" contains these words: Yeah yeah, we believe you, though we know that most people would think you'd just been grovelling for some reason. The winning side doesn't grovel :-))))))))))))))) Smug commiserations to all you Aussies. Aaaah, the Thugby. Must admit that I didn't lower myself sufficiently to watch it. (Meoooow) |
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Couldn't get away from the dastardly game here in Aussieland whether one
wanted to or not!! Judanne "Fran" wrote in message u... "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "Fran" contains these words: Yeah yeah, we believe you, though we know that most people would think you'd just been grovelling for some reason. The winning side doesn't grovel :-))))))))))))))) Smug commiserations to all you Aussies. Aaaah, the Thugby. Must admit that I didn't lower myself sufficiently to watch it. (Meoooow) |
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ah we did judanne,
no free to air tv reception here (just how backward we are as a country) can't afford satellite repeats that we saw on cable 5 years ago so yup we missed all the hoopla while watching a cheap rental vcr, great stuff realy. len n bev snipped -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/ |
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ah we did judanne,
no free to air tv reception here (just how backward we are as a country) can't afford satellite repeats that we saw on cable 5 years ago so yup we missed all the hoopla while watching a cheap rental vcr, great stuff realy. len n bev snipped -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you,' "in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment http://home.dnet.aunz.com/gardnlen/ |
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"Homefinders" wrote in message
Couldn't get away from the dastardly game here in Aussieland whether one wanted to or not!! Judanne Oh dear; you mean to tell us that you have let the remote control device move out of your sphere of influence? Fatal error that. "Fran" wrote in message Aaaah, the Thugby. Must admit that I didn't lower myself sufficiently to watch it. (Meoooow) |
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"Fran" wrote in message u... "Homefinders" wrote in message Couldn't get away from the dastardly game here in Aussieland whether one wanted to or not!! Judanne Oh dear; you mean to tell us that you have let the remote control device move out of your sphere of influence? Fatal error that. ??? there is no "sphere of influence" when it comes to wimmin and remotes .... The remote is and will always be a male thing.... it's just the way of the world.... no use fightin it Although if we needed it while outside we'd get ya to put in ya handbag. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 21/11/2003 |
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from "pete" contains these words: The remote is and will always be a male thing.... it's just the way of the world.... no use fightin it So why do men never know where it is? Janet |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "pete" contains these words: The remote is and will always be a male thing.... it's just the way of the world.... no use fightin it So why do men never know where it is? We're talkin about the remote right? :-) My guess is.... women hide it just to annoy us ... like our socks and the car keys ....oh and that half inch tubing we put down the side of the shed in case we needed it one day. Pete --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 21/11/2003 |
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Fran,
No No No No No. I didn't WATCH it, but it was everywhere, in the paper, on the radio, on the telly, people all hyped up about and chatting about it. ARRRGGGGHHHH Judanne "Fran" wrote in message u... "Homefinders" wrote in message Couldn't get away from the dastardly game here in Aussieland whether one wanted to or not!! Judanne Oh dear; you mean to tell us that you have let the remote control device move out of your sphere of influence? Fatal error that. "Fran" wrote in message Aaaah, the Thugby. Must admit that I didn't lower myself sufficiently to watch it. (Meoooow) |
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Nah, nah nah nah to you, coz I have FOUR of them and NO man in the house!!!
Judanne "pete" wrote in message ... "Fran" wrote in message u... "Homefinders" wrote in message Couldn't get away from the dastardly game here in Aussieland whether one wanted to or not!! Judanne Oh dear; you mean to tell us that you have let the remote control device move out of your sphere of influence? Fatal error that. ??? there is no "sphere of influence" when it comes to wimmin and remotes ... The remote is and will always be a male thing.... it's just the way of the world.... no use fightin it Although if we needed it while outside we'd get ya to put in ya handbag. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 21/11/2003 |
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"Homefinders" wrote in message ... Nah, nah nah nah to you, coz I have FOUR of them and NO man in the house!!! Ok then I concede ... just don't tell Janet ok? --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/2003 |
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from "pete" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "pete" contains these words: The remote is and will always be a male thing.... it's just the way of the world.... no use fightin it So why do men never know where it is? We're talkin about the remote right? :-) My guess is.... women hide it just to annoy us ... No excuses, Pete, it's always kept in the same place. Just like the remote. :~} Janet. |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... No excuses, Pete, it's always kept in the same place. Just like the remote. :~} If "it" was kept in the same place AS the remote, we could get you to pass them both at the same time ... saving a lot of searching and frustration. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 21/11/2003 |
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The message
from "pete" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... No excuses, Pete, it's always kept in the same place. Just like the remote. :~} If "it" was kept in the same place AS the remote, we could get you to pass them both at the same time ... saving a lot of searching and frustration. Have you ever had one of those fast-forward/freeze experiences, and wondered what caused it? Janet |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "pete" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... No excuses, Pete, it's always kept in the same place. Just like the remote. :~} If "it" was kept in the same place AS the remote, we could get you to pass them both at the same time ... saving a lot of searching and frustration. Have you ever had one of those fast-forward/freeze experiences, and wondered what caused it? Janet --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 21/11/2003 |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "pete" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... No excuses, Pete, it's always kept in the same place. Just like the remote. :~} If "it" was kept in the same place AS the remote, we could get you to pass them both at the same time ... saving a lot of searching and frustration. Have you ever had one of those fast-forward/freeze experiences, and wondered what caused it? Janet I have and I have, and now I do ... So wimmin and remotes ARE linked inexplicably and undeniably... and men press the buttons (if and when they can find em) Thank you for giving me this insight.. I shall be asking further question about life as time goes by :-) And remembering to actually type something before pressing send too, which I think helps --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 21/11/2003 |
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