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Janet Baraclough wrote:
My sympathies over the salad tongs :-( , men should try that some time, we'll see who's "new". Hope she improves soon I can tell ya now ... and anyone else who cares to read ...if I had to bear the children the human race would die out ...I know women say the same thing regarding men giving birth and you get no argument from me. At this point I just have to relate to you a paragraph found while researching Australian history. It has nothing to do with childbirth but has everything to do with women's lot in life. Eyre was the acting Chief magistrate of the Murray district of South Australia at the approximate time. *************** Originally published with "Journals of expeditions of discovery into Central Australia, and overland from Adelaide to King George's Sound, in the years 1840-1". An account of the manners and customs of the Aborigines and the state of their relations with Europeans by Edward John Eyre "Like most other savages the Australian looks upon his wife as a slave. To her belongs the duty of collecting and preparing the daily food, of making the camp or hut for the night, of gathering and bringing in firewood, and of procuring water. She must also attend to the children; and in travelling carry all the moveable property and frequently the weapons of her husband. In wet weather she attends to all the outside work, whilst her lord and master is snugly seated at the fire." ****************************** Oh how things have changed in the last 150 years :-) pass the remote dear ...... I just had to post that for you and Fran cos I figured you two would appreciate it .... although it has nothing to do with the topic per se,(since when has that bothered me) Whilst reading it I immediately thought "I know who'd appreciate that" :-) see how much I thinks about ya's? Are you the first grand-daddy on altpc? How sustainable is that? I dunno if I am or not... sometimes it feels like I'm the only person here let alone the only "aged" one. I'm looking forward to the burping and farting contests, I used to have em with his Mother but she grew out of em. I always wonder how people manage to grow out of farting. You could power a small village on our domestic windfarm. I don't think it was the farting she grew out of ... just the competitive aspect. :-) pete |
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Here are a couple of links to an inspiring story I saw on Australian Story
last month. While its not completely devoted to salinity, it is about drought proofing properties and preventing the problems caused by lack of water. http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2005/s1383562.htm (part 1) http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2005/s1388590.htm (part 2) Judanne Tassie "pete" wrote in message ... Hi Folks As some of you know this is a subject quite dear to me because of the amount of salinity in and around where I live. I've stated before that I don't believe salinity is THE problem but rather A symptom of poor soil structure, and I'm increasingly frustrated when I look for info on how salinity is being managed or addressed. Most if not all the sources I can find on the net are government sponsored surveys which seem intent on telling me how bad salinity is and why it's such a problem and how they will continue to develop models to ascertain the extent of salinity and how to recognise it ...etc etc etc ....... all this is necessary I'm sure for the "experts" to gain an understanding of the so called problem and to help others understand its devastating effects, and I have no doubt that there are many many people receiving government grants to fund these surveys and refine their models and salt mapping diagrams. Almost all of the info is negative and depressing and virtually states that we are doomed to be swallowed up by mountains of salt unless we do something ... the trouble is I can't actually find anyone who IS doing anything other than devising yet another model or salt map for continued monitoring ...of course all at great expense in the form of grant money which ultimately gets passed onto the public in the form of levies and surcharges. My question is this .... does anyone know of any information on the net which shows positive results from methods which can be applied by the everyday person ?. Most of the farming resources I read understandably deal with enabling the farmer to still get a return from salt affected land whilst using techniques to reduce high water tables and salt content, but I think thy never actually address the real issue of soil structure Most of the horticultural areas seem to be on land that is unaffected by salt so there never seems to be a push within the smaller acreage groups or their growers cooperatives to address the issue ...its left to the larger properties and their organisations SAFF, NFF etc because (I presume) the effects are more noticeable and have the most damage potential to our primary production. I don't want to learn how to grow salt tolerant species I already know what plants will grow in some of the worst effected areas... I want to create soil that will grow anything that my climate, as dry as it is, will allow me to grow ... I'm talking about practical people doing practical, positive things which have yielded results however small a particular favourite of mine is the "Greening the desert" by Geoff Lawton http://www.abc.net.au/northcoast/stories/s727970.htm# There are both flash presentations and real media version links. This is the sort of info I'm looking for, I'm already getting some varied success from trying different things ...as some of you know from my postings here .... but I'm always looking for others sources of info ... no more reports, studies or models from well intentioned government sponsored surveys ... I feel like I've read all of em. I wonder if anyone would be interested if I put together a simple web page wiv piccies of my modest efforts in the hopes of helping others ? stay well, stay happy folks Pete |
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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote (snip) Pampas grass is also a noxious weed in some places but here where it is rather colder than in the weed zones it is a (relatively) smallish and neat garden clump of about 6 ft high. Pretty cold here in Tassie, but its been a declared noxious weed here for some time now. Judanne Tassie |
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"Judanne" wrote in message ... "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote (snip) Pampas grass is also a noxious weed in some places but here where it is rather colder than in the weed zones it is a (relatively) smallish and neat garden clump of about 6 ft high. Pretty cold here in Tassie, but its been a declared noxious weed here for some time now. Judanne Tassie I had two clumps in my garden, left over from the previous owners. Neighbour had his eye on one, so I let his and a friend of his dig it out. They did this in one day. I kept scratching my car on the other, as I pulled out the drive, so I started to dig it out. I think it took me 3 years, in total. I think it would have been easier to get rid of the car. |
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"Judanne" wrote: Here are a couple of links to an inspiring story I saw on Australian Story last month. While its not completely devoted to salinity, it is about drought proofing properties and preventing the problems caused by lack of water. Definite pc influence, isn't there? The idea of retaining the water and putting it to work as much as possible, even though the pc books tend to describe it in a European manner. And the concept of succession (though using noxious weeds in the succession was not a way to win friends and influence people!). Exciting stuff -- have any Aussie pcers on acreage been doing anything with this information? -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "In Melbourne there is plenty of vigour and eagerness, but there is nothing worth being eager or vigorous about." Francis Adams, The Australians, 1893. |
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