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Old 01-11-2003, 05:02 PM
 
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We have what has been called a "Mexican Ponytail Palm." It differs
from a standard ponytail palm in that its leaves have a spiral to them
instead of being straight.

We would like to get our hands on additional plants or seeds but can't
seem to find any that match the description of what we have.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 02-11-2003, 01:33 AM
mel turner
 
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wrote...

We have what has been called a "Mexican Ponytail Palm." It differs
from a standard ponytail palm in that its leaves have a spiral to them
instead of being straight.

We would like to get our hands on additional plants or seeds but can't
seem to find any that match the description of what we have.

Any help would be appreciated.


Okay, it seems you're describing one of the forms of the same species
as the "standard ponytail palm", which as it happens is also from
Mexico.

It'll help you look if you know the plant's scientific name. You'll
mostly find both forms under the species name Beaucarnea recurvata,
but can also find them classified in the in the genus Nolina (as
Nolina tuberculata). [Beaucarnea isn't always recognized as separate
from the closely related genus Nolina]

Checking, there are a number of other Beaucarnea species, but most or
all of them have straighter/stiffer, and often shorter, leaves.
B. recurvata is the one that tends to have long twisty leaves. There
are doubtless lots of nurseries selling it and its seeds, but you'll
probably have to ask if they are the longer-leaved twisty form or
the "standard ponytail palm".

http://www.floridata.com/ref/B/beau_rec.cfm

says:

"_B. recurvata_ var. _intermedia_ with shorter leaves, less
than 3' long, is the most commonly cultivated variety."

This presumably is your "standard" form. It doesn't appear,
however, that the name "Beaucarnea recurvata var. intermedia"
is being used in the horticultural trade, so this won't help
you much.

http://www2.umt.edu/uc/gardens/northplnt/beaucarnea.htm

shows plants with long twisty leaves. This is the form
you want?

http://www.baobabs.com/Palms.htm#bau

on the other hand has obviously straighter leaves

Other links with related info.

http://pss.uvm.edu/pss123/sucnolin.html
http://www.zone10.com/planttips/1999/071699.htm
http://www.bihrmann.com/caudiciforms...ea-rec-sub.asp
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...eaucarnea.html
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...recurvata.html
http://www.charlies-web.com/caudiciform/text14.html
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/NolLon.shtml

cheers

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Old 02-11-2003, 01:33 AM
mel turner
 
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Default ISO Mexican Ponytail Palm

In article ,
wrote...

We have what has been called a "Mexican Ponytail Palm." It differs
from a standard ponytail palm in that its leaves have a spiral to them
instead of being straight.

We would like to get our hands on additional plants or seeds but can't
seem to find any that match the description of what we have.

Any help would be appreciated.


Okay, it seems you're describing one of the forms of the same species
as the "standard ponytail palm", which as it happens is also from
Mexico.

It'll help you look if you know the plant's scientific name. You'll
mostly find both forms under the species name Beaucarnea recurvata,
but can also find them classified in the in the genus Nolina (as
Nolina tuberculata). [Beaucarnea isn't always recognized as separate
from the closely related genus Nolina]

Checking, there are a number of other Beaucarnea species, but most or
all of them have straighter/stiffer, and often shorter, leaves.
B. recurvata is the one that tends to have long twisty leaves. There
are doubtless lots of nurseries selling it and its seeds, but you'll
probably have to ask if they are the longer-leaved twisty form or
the "standard ponytail palm".

http://www.floridata.com/ref/B/beau_rec.cfm

says:

"_B. recurvata_ var. _intermedia_ with shorter leaves, less
than 3' long, is the most commonly cultivated variety."

This presumably is your "standard" form. It doesn't appear,
however, that the name "Beaucarnea recurvata var. intermedia"
is being used in the horticultural trade, so this won't help
you much.

http://www2.umt.edu/uc/gardens/northplnt/beaucarnea.htm

shows plants with long twisty leaves. This is the form
you want?

http://www.baobabs.com/Palms.htm#bau

on the other hand has obviously straighter leaves

Other links with related info.

http://pss.uvm.edu/pss123/sucnolin.html
http://www.zone10.com/planttips/1999/071699.htm
http://www.bihrmann.com/caudiciforms...ea-rec-sub.asp
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...eaucarnea.html
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...recurvata.html
http://www.charlies-web.com/caudiciform/text14.html
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/NolLon.shtml

cheers

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Old 02-11-2003, 01:34 AM
mel turner
 
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Default ISO Mexican Ponytail Palm

In article ,
wrote...

We have what has been called a "Mexican Ponytail Palm." It differs
from a standard ponytail palm in that its leaves have a spiral to them
instead of being straight.

We would like to get our hands on additional plants or seeds but can't
seem to find any that match the description of what we have.

Any help would be appreciated.


Okay, it seems you're describing one of the forms of the same species
as the "standard ponytail palm", which as it happens is also from
Mexico.

It'll help you look if you know the plant's scientific name. You'll
mostly find both forms under the species name Beaucarnea recurvata,
but can also find them classified in the in the genus Nolina (as
Nolina tuberculata). [Beaucarnea isn't always recognized as separate
from the closely related genus Nolina]

Checking, there are a number of other Beaucarnea species, but most or
all of them have straighter/stiffer, and often shorter, leaves.
B. recurvata is the one that tends to have long twisty leaves. There
are doubtless lots of nurseries selling it and its seeds, but you'll
probably have to ask if they are the longer-leaved twisty form or
the "standard ponytail palm".

http://www.floridata.com/ref/B/beau_rec.cfm

says:

"_B. recurvata_ var. _intermedia_ with shorter leaves, less
than 3' long, is the most commonly cultivated variety."

This presumably is your "standard" form. It doesn't appear,
however, that the name "Beaucarnea recurvata var. intermedia"
is being used in the horticultural trade, so this won't help
you much.

http://www2.umt.edu/uc/gardens/northplnt/beaucarnea.htm

shows plants with long twisty leaves. This is the form
you want?

http://www.baobabs.com/Palms.htm#bau

on the other hand has obviously straighter leaves

Other links with related info.

http://pss.uvm.edu/pss123/sucnolin.html
http://www.zone10.com/planttips/1999/071699.htm
http://www.bihrmann.com/caudiciforms...ea-rec-sub.asp
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...eaucarnea.html
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...recurvata.html
http://www.charlies-web.com/caudiciform/text14.html
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/NolLon.shtml

cheers

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Old 02-11-2003, 01:34 AM
mel turner
 
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Default ISO Mexican Ponytail Palm

In article ,
wrote...

We have what has been called a "Mexican Ponytail Palm." It differs
from a standard ponytail palm in that its leaves have a spiral to them
instead of being straight.

We would like to get our hands on additional plants or seeds but can't
seem to find any that match the description of what we have.

Any help would be appreciated.


Okay, it seems you're describing one of the forms of the same species
as the "standard ponytail palm", which as it happens is also from
Mexico.

It'll help you look if you know the plant's scientific name. You'll
mostly find both forms under the species name Beaucarnea recurvata,
but can also find them classified in the in the genus Nolina (as
Nolina tuberculata). [Beaucarnea isn't always recognized as separate
from the closely related genus Nolina]

Checking, there are a number of other Beaucarnea species, but most or
all of them have straighter/stiffer, and often shorter, leaves.
B. recurvata is the one that tends to have long twisty leaves. There
are doubtless lots of nurseries selling it and its seeds, but you'll
probably have to ask if they are the longer-leaved twisty form or
the "standard ponytail palm".

http://www.floridata.com/ref/B/beau_rec.cfm

says:

"_B. recurvata_ var. _intermedia_ with shorter leaves, less
than 3' long, is the most commonly cultivated variety."

This presumably is your "standard" form. It doesn't appear,
however, that the name "Beaucarnea recurvata var. intermedia"
is being used in the horticultural trade, so this won't help
you much.

http://www2.umt.edu/uc/gardens/northplnt/beaucarnea.htm

shows plants with long twisty leaves. This is the form
you want?

http://www.baobabs.com/Palms.htm#bau

on the other hand has obviously straighter leaves

Other links with related info.

http://pss.uvm.edu/pss123/sucnolin.html
http://www.zone10.com/planttips/1999/071699.htm
http://www.bihrmann.com/caudiciforms...ea-rec-sub.asp
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...eaucarnea.html
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...recurvata.html
http://www.charlies-web.com/caudiciform/text14.html
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/NolLon.shtml

cheers

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