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Help identifying a plant
Could someone please help me identify this plant... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg This is a viney plant in an arboretum in Northern Virginia growing on a tree. We thought it might be mistletoe, but it had red berries. Its rather cold here now, but the leaves on this plant are green and the berries fully developed. Thanks in advance |
Help identifying a plant
Bittersweet
Celastrus scandens http://images.google.com/images?svnu...ns&btnG=Search "Ed" wrote in message ... Could someone please help me identify this plant... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg This is a viney plant in an arboretum in Northern Virginia growing on a tree. We thought it might be mistletoe, but it had red berries. Its rather cold here now, but the leaves on this plant are green and the berries fully developed. Thanks in advance |
Help identifying a plant
"Ed" wrote in
message ... Could someone please help me identify this plant... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg This is a viney plant in an arboretum in Northern Virginia growing on a tree. We thought it might be mistletoe, but it had red berries. Its rather cold here now, but the leaves on this plant are green and the berries fully developed. _Euonymus fortunei_, a widespread and common introduced species from China. Unlike the native Euonymus americana, it's often a climber. Although often invasive, it's commonly cultivated as an ornamental vine or shrub. http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/eufo1.htm http://mdc.mo.gov/nathis/exotic/vegman/twentyse.htm http://www.issg.org/database/species...=575&fr=1&sts= http://www.cas.vanderbilt.edu/bioima...cies/eufo5.htm cheers |
Help identifying a plant
I agree with Cereus that it is bittersweet, based upon the long leaves,
brown stems and large fruits. Euonymus have smaller leaves that are more leathery, green stems and relatively smaller fruits. Both are noxious weeds. Scott -- We'll be building again in Zambia in 2006! Let us know if you'd like to join us. Habitat for Humanity Global Village Home Page http://www.habitat.org/GV/ Habitat Zambia http://www.habitatzam.org.zm "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule--and both commonly succeed, and are right" H.L. Mencken "Ed" wrote in message ... Could someone please help me identify this plant... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg This is a viney plant in an arboretum in Northern Virginia growing on a tree. We thought it might be mistletoe, but it had red berries. Its rather cold here now, but the leaves on this plant are green and the berries fully developed. Thanks in advance |
Help identifying a plant
"Scott Ranger" wrote in
message . .. "Ed" wrote in message ... Could someone please help me identify this plant... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg This is a viney plant in an arboretum in Northern Virginia growing on a tree. We thought it might be mistletoe, but it had red berries. Its rather cold here now, but the leaves on this plant are green and the berries fully developed. I agree with Cereus that it is bittersweet, based upon the long leaves, brown stems and large fruits. Euonymus have smaller leaves that are more leathery, green stems and relatively smaller fruits. I missed seeing the earlier bittersweet ID, but I still think this one is a Euonymus. It's hard to tell whether the leaves in the photo are alternate [Celastrus] or opposite [Euonymus], but this plant is pretty clearly evergreen just as the original poster noted [and just like the particular Euonymus species I'd suggested], http://www.hancockwoodlands.ca/winte...ereuonymus.JPG and not deciduous like either the native Celastrus scandens or the introduced C. orbiculatus. A more subtle difference is in the fruits: these Celastrus spp. have their aril-covered seeds in a tight sphere in the center of the dehisced fruit: http://www.nps.gov/plants/pubs/chesapeake/plant/237.htm http://www.kansasnativeplants.com/im...n-seed-320.jpg http://www.mytho-fleurs.com/images/v...s%20fruits.JPG http://www.tneppc.org/images/Exotics%20Photos/Celastrus%20PA180017%20(RKC).JPG Whereas the plant in question here http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg very clearly has well-separated seeds dangling further out nearer the tips of the fruit capsule lobes, as is typical of many Euonymus spp.: http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academi...tunei_fall.jpg http://www.plantes-ornementales.com/...coloratus.html http://www.nationale-plantencollecti...xyphyllus.html http://arboretum.sfasu.edu/plants/eu...%20americanus/ http://www.npsnj.org/euonymus_americanus.htm Besides, his photo looks a whole like the _Euonymus fortunei_ plants that I often see growing around here. Both are noxious weeds. Well, just the introduced, invasive species, perhaps. cheers |
Help identifying a plant
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:22:46 -0500, Ed wrote:
Could someone please help me identify this plant... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg Hard to tell from the photo, but leaves look opposite, which would make it Euonymus fortunei. Variable in form, but 40-70 ft vines aren't uncommon. Leaf retention and good green color this late in the season also suggests E. fortunei. Unfortunately, id from pictures is often a best-guess, not an exactitude. |
Help identifying a plant
"mel turner" schreef
I missed seeing the earlier bittersweet ID, but I still think this one is a Euonymus. It's hard to tell whether the leaves in the photo are alternate [Celastrus] or opposite [Euonymus], but this plant is pretty clearly evergreen just as the original poster noted [and just like the particular Euonymus species I'd suggested], http://www.hancockwoodlands.ca/winte...ereuonymus.JPG and not deciduous like either the native Celastrus scandens or the introduced C. orbiculatus. A more subtle difference is in the fruits: these Celastrus spp. have their aril-covered seeds in a tight sphere in the center of the dehisced fruit: http://www.nps.gov/plants/pubs/chesapeake/plant/237.htm http://www.kansasnativeplants.com/im...n-seed-320.jpg http://www.mytho-fleurs.com/images/v...s%20fruits.JPG http://www.tneppc.org/images/Exotics%20Photos/Celastrus%20PA180017%20(RKC).JPG Whereas the plant in question here http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846e.jpg very clearly has well-separated seeds dangling further out nearer the tips of the fruit capsule lobes, as is typical of many Euonymus spp.: *** I would love to say something wise and insightful here, but I can't. I agree that the fruit details are very important here, but the picture quality is not adequate. I cannot even agree that there is a clear separation: from the picture these could also be cases of fruits close together. All that anybody has to go by here is general habit, and I know neither of these species. All right, a final pearl of wisdom: this is the reason that arboreta have signs with the name of the plant! PvR |
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Thanks for all the answers. Next time I'm at this arboretum I will take better pictures of the plant in question, and post links to them back here. This plant seemed to be growing wild in this particular spot. I don't think there was a nameplate by this one. Ed |
Cropped/Zoomed Pic: Help identifying a plant
Here is the same image, but cropped and zoomed in. Maybe this will make it a little more clear. I still would like to take some better images and do another post. Thanks again Ed |
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Sorry, forgot to include the cropped and zoomed pic. Here it is... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846ce.jpg |
Cropped/Zoomed Pic: Help identifying a plant
That doesn't help at all. Its the same picture.
What you need to do is look at the actual plant itself to see if the leaf arrangement is opposite or alternate and a better photo of the fruit. (Actually the fruit are dehiscent and expose seeds with a fleshy red covering (sarcotesta).) Its been suggested that Euonymus is evergreen while Celastrus is deciduous, but the latter genus often retains the terminal cluster of leaves over the winter. "Ed" wrote in message ... Here is the same image, but cropped and zoomed in. Maybe this will make it a little more clear. I still would like to take some better images and do another post. Thanks again Ed |
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"Ed" schreef
Sorry, forgot to include the cropped and zoomed pic. Here it is... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846ce.jpg *** This does help a little. There is a separation (of seeds) within the fruits. The leaves do look to be opposite. PvR |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in news:43a30815$0
: "Ed" schreef Sorry, forgot to include the cropped and zoomed pic. Here it is... http://www.user.shentel.net/eddie180/FP/100_0846ce.jpg *** This does help a little. There is a separation (of seeds) within the fruits. The leaves do look to be opposite. There are a few leaves that do appear to be opposite, but a bit more importantly, the leaf scars which are more visible are clearly opposite. Sean |
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I'm agree with Euonymus fortunei
because it fruits and seed If it is Euonymus fortunei then introduced from central china , korea or japan |
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