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Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
Hello to sci.bio.botany,
I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to botany however I do take care of the plants in my garden without much trouble. This year however I have been puzzling over the identity of two plants that appeared in my patio pots. ........... In the new year I planted up two new terracotta troughs with some daffodil bulbs from last year, in new peat based compost. The daffs came through OK and also these two little plants!! one in each trough. When the daffs had finished I replaced them and potted these two separately- see Flikr links below for photographs - and brought them into my conservatory. The brown woody stem continues as a single root for about 4/6 inches without any side roots (just a few white root hairs) and ends in a white growing tip about a quarter of an inch long. The "leaves" are narrow, fleshy and smooth, about one & a-half inches long. Since first coming through and achieving the size in the pictures ( taken in early June ), their growth has been fairly static showing only slow progress . I wondered if you could throw any light on what they might be, having drawn a blank at two local nurseries/garden centres. They don't seem to be of local origin and my suspicion is that they have originated in the peat as I don't see any other way for them to have arrived!! www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858369261/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858330849/ regards Jake Wade East Yorkshire ENGLAND |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
Question...
I tried posting a new topic to this newsgroup yesterday and it had not appeared. Is there a secret handshake or something I need to know? Thanks! Same "Jake Wade" wrote in message ... Hello to sci.bio.botany, I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to botany however I do take care of the plants in my garden without much trouble. This year however I have been puzzling over the identity of two plants that appeared in my patio pots. ........... In the new year I planted up two new terracotta troughs with some daffodil bulbs from last year, in new peat based compost. The daffs came through OK and also these two little plants!! one in each trough. When the daffs had finished I replaced them and potted these two separately- see Flikr links below for photographs - and brought them into my conservatory. The brown woody stem continues as a single root for about 4/6 inches without any side roots (just a few white root hairs) and ends in a white growing tip about a quarter of an inch long. The "leaves" are narrow, fleshy and smooth, about one & a-half inches long. Since first coming through and achieving the size in the pictures ( taken in early June ), their growth has been fairly static showing only slow progress . I wondered if you could throw any light on what they might be, having drawn a blank at two local nurseries/garden centres. They don't seem to be of local origin and my suspicion is that they have originated in the peat as I don't see any other way for them to have arrived!! www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858369261/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858330849/ regards Jake Wade East Yorkshire ENGLAND |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
I wonder whether the 'peat' contains pine chips. The plants look like
pine seedlings: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...edlings_kz.jpg Does a crushed leaf smell resinous? On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:54:06 -0000, "Jake Wade" wrote: Hello to sci.bio.botany, I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to botany however I do take care of the plants in my garden without much trouble. This year however I have been puzzling over the identity of two plants that appeared in my patio pots. ........... In the new year I planted up two new terracotta troughs with some daffodil bulbs from last year, in new peat based compost. The daffs came through OK and also these two little plants!! one in each trough. When the daffs had finished I replaced them and potted these two separately- see Flikr links below for photographs - and brought them into my conservatory. The brown woody stem continues as a single root for about 4/6 inches without any side roots (just a few white root hairs) and ends in a white growing tip about a quarter of an inch long. The "leaves" are narrow, fleshy and smooth, about one & a-half inches long. Since first coming through and achieving the size in the pictures ( taken in early June ), their growth has been fairly static showing only slow progress . I wondered if you could throw any light on what they might be, having drawn a blank at two local nurseries/garden centres. They don't seem to be of local origin and my suspicion is that they have originated in the peat as I don't see any other way for them to have arrived!! www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858369261/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858330849/ regards Jake Wade East Yorkshire ENGLAND |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
Jake Wade wrote:
Hello to sci.bio.botany, I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to botany however I do take care of the plants in my garden without much trouble. This year however I have been puzzling over the identity of two plants that appeared in my patio pots. ........... In the new year I planted up two new terracotta troughs with some daffodil bulbs from last year, in new peat based compost. The daffs came through OK and also these two little plants!! one in each trough. When the daffs had finished I replaced them and potted these two separately- see Flikr links below for photographs - and brought them into my conservatory. The brown woody stem continues as a single root for about 4/6 inches without any side roots (just a few white root hairs) and ends in a white growing tip about a quarter of an inch long. The "leaves" are narrow, fleshy and smooth, about one & a-half inches long. Since first coming through and achieving the size in the pictures ( taken in early June ), their growth has been fairly static showing only slow progress . I wondered if you could throw any light on what they might be, having drawn a blank at two local nurseries/garden centres. They don't seem to be of local origin and my suspicion is that they have originated in the peat as I don't see any other way for them to have arrived!! www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858369261/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858330849/ regards Jake Wade East Yorkshire ENGLAND Almost certainly a pine seedling. Are there pine trees in the viscinity? The wind may have blown the seed to you. |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
"Jake Wade" wrote in message ... Hello to sci.bio.botany, I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to botany however I do take care of the plants in my garden without much trouble. This year however I have been puzzling over the identity of two plants that appeared in my patio pots. ........... [snip] They don't seem to be of local origin and my suspicion is that they have originated in the peat as I don't see any other way for them to have arrived!! www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858369261/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858330849/ I agree that pine seedlings are likely, but seedlings of related plants such as deodar cedars [_Cedrus deodara_] are also similar-looking at this stage. The conifer seeds could have been in the peat, or they could have arrived by wind. Are any large conifers growing nearby? cheers |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
I think they are seedlings of pine trees.
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:54:06 -0000, "Jake Wade" wrote: Hello to sci.bio.botany, I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to botany however I do take care of the plants in my garden without much trouble. This year however I have been puzzling over the identity of two plants that appeared in my patio pots. ........... In the new year I planted up two new terracotta troughs with some daffodil bulbs from last year, in new peat based compost. The daffs came through OK and also these two little plants!! one in each trough. When the daffs had finished I replaced them and potted these two separately- see Flikr links below for photographs - and brought them into my conservatory. The brown woody stem continues as a single root for about 4/6 inches without any side roots (just a few white root hairs) and ends in a white growing tip about a quarter of an inch long. The "leaves" are narrow, fleshy and smooth, about one & a-half inches long. Since first coming through and achieving the size in the pictures ( taken in early June ), their growth has been fairly static showing only slow progress . I wondered if you could throw any light on what they might be, having drawn a blank at two local nurseries/garden centres. They don't seem to be of local origin and my suspicion is that they have originated in the peat as I don't see any other way for them to have arrived!! www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858369261/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858330849/ regards Jake Wade East Yorkshire ENGLAND |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
In article , "Jake Wade" wrote:
In the new year I planted up two new terracotta troughs with some daffodil bulbs from last year, in new peat based compost. The daffs came through OK and also these two little plants!! one in each trough. When the daffs had finished I replaced them and potted these two separately- see Flikr links below for photographs - and brought them into my conservatory. [Snip] I wondered if you could throw any light on what they might be, having drawn a blank at two local nurseries/garden centres. They don't seem to be of local origin and my suspicion is that they have originated in the peat as I don't see any other way for them to have arrived!! www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858369261/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/ www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1858330849/ I'm not familiar with plants from your latitude, nor am I familiar with the potting stuff you've used. What is it, please? TIA Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
"Sammy bin Snoozin" wrote in message news:r7oXi.16178$Rg1.10277@trnddc05... Question... I tried posting a new topic to this newsgroup yesterday and it had not appeared. Is there a secret handshake or something I need to know? Thanks! Same **************************************** No. No passwords or handshakes, just post away!! Your reply to my topic came thru OK. regards Jake |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
"Richard Wright" wrote in message ... I wonder whether the 'peat' contains pine chips. The plants look like pine seedlings: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...edlings_kz.jpg Does a crushed leaf smell resinous? ***************************************** Richard, Malcolm, Mel and Ringthing?? Aha!!! Thanks a million!! The picture in the link looks just like the plants I have growing. So "Pinus" or "Cedrus" it is then. I don't think that anything like that is growing close by, though there may of course be isolated specimens near by. Of course that scenario would require a method to transport just two seeds to two pots and nowhere else in my garden. As I said in my original post, I think the seeds were in the compost regards Jake |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
"Phred" wrote in message ... I'm not familiar with plants from your latitude, nor am I familiar with the potting stuff you've used. What is it, please? TIA Cheers, Phred. -- LID ************************************************** ********* The potting material is PEAT based compost. Derived from dried out boglands. When cut out and dried it may be burnt as fuel like wood and coal. See here for example :- www.wildlifetrust.org.uk/facts/peat.htm or here :- www.waverley.gov.uk/recycling/peat.asp#what regards Jake |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
In article , "Jake Wade" wrote:
"Phred" wrote in message ... I'm not familiar with plants from your latitude, nor am I familiar with the potting stuff you've used. What is it, please? The potting material is PEAT based compost. Derived from dried out boglands. When cut out and dried it may be burnt as fuel like wood and coal. See here for example :- www.wildlifetrust.org.uk/facts/peat.htm or here :- www.waverley.gov.uk/recycling/peat.asp#what Thanks for the reply, Jake. I must say your peat looks quite different to the stuff available here. The "German peat" is a brown fibrous material and our local "peat" is a black rather crumbly product that caused us much grief when potting lots of plants years ago. (You can assume from that we much preferred the imported German product, and hang the expense! :-) Your material is surprisingly pale, and I assume the "pebble" shape is the result of pelletisation? See this image of yours for example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/in/photostream/ Thanks for the links. But I see that you really shouldn't be using the stuff. :-) quoting http://www.wildlifetrust.org.uk/facts/peat.htm What you can do to help save peat bogs Peat bogs desperately need your help. You can help save them by: * Refusing to buy peat or plants grown in peat. [...] Details of where to buy peat-free products are available from The Wildlife Trusts. * Stop using peat in your garden; start a compost heap that will provide an alternative. * Find out if your local authority has signed the peatland protection charter (details from your local wildlife trust). * Visit a peatland reserve near to you and see its wildlife. Your local wildlife trust can help you. Once you have, you'll never want to buy peat again. /quoting Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
"Phred" wrote in message
... SNIP SNIP Thanks for the reply, Jake. I must say your peat looks quite different to the stuff available here. The "German peat" is a brown fibrous material and our local "peat" is a black rather crumbly product that caused us much grief when potting lots of plants years ago. (You can assume from that we much preferred the imported German product, and hang the expense! :-) Your material is surprisingly pale, and I assume the "pebble" shape is the result of pelletisation? See this image of yours for example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/in/photostream/ Thanks for the links. But I see that you really shouldn't be using the stuff. :-) SNIP SNIP Cheers, Phred. -- LID ************************************************** **************** Hi Phred, Ah, well, the peat we have in the UK is also, generally, a dark brown fibrous material. What you see in my pictures is a top layer of pumice pebbles, used to retain moisture/reduce evaporation. Bit of a red herring perhaps, didn't intend to decieve anyone!!! regards Jake |
Identification of strange plant requested. Yorkshire, England.
In article , "Jake Wade" wrote:
"Phred" wrote in message [Snip] Your material is surprisingly pale, and I assume the "pebble" shape is the result of pelletisation? See this image of yours for example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17895095@N02/1859173644/in/photostream/ SNIP SNIP Ah, well, the peat we have in the UK is also, generally, a dark brown fibrous material. What you see in my pictures is a top layer of pumice pebbles, used to retain moisture/reduce evaporation. Bit of a red herring perhaps, didn't intend to decieve anyone!!! All is now revealed. :-) Thank you. [Addendum: 'I' before 'E' except after 'C'. 8-) ] Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
PLEASE DO NOT USE PEAT
The wildlife trust article referenced below gives reasons for not using peat
based products. Basically in its natural state, in peat bogs, it forms a unique habitat that is now under threat and is seriouly depleted. There are substitutes avaivable. Please try to use these instead. Peter The potting material is PEAT based compost. Derived from dried out boglands. When cut out and dried it may be burnt as fuel like wood and coal. See here for example :- www.wildlifetrust.org.uk/facts/peat.htm or here :- www.waverley.gov.uk/recycling/peat.asp#what regards Jake |
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