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Michael F. McNulty 26-04-2003 01:26 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 
Does anyone know anyone that knows a lot about the genus Tylecodon?
Michael McNulty



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Ingar P. 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 
Michael F. McNulty wrote:

Does anyone know anyone that knows a lot about the genus Tylecodon?
Michael McNulty


You could try G. Williamson at department of botany in the University of
Cape Town. He have described a new species in the genus in 1998.

Williamson, G. 1998. A new Tylecodon Species (Crassulaceae). Cactus and
Succculent Journal 70:127-128.

In future you can use the excellent database of tropical flora at mobot to
find the authors of genuses and species.

http://mobot.mobot.org/W3T/Search/vast.html

Ingar

Iris Cohen 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 
For those of you who are not professional botanists, you may be interested to
know that Tylecodon is an anagram of Cotyledon, which is the genus it was split
off from. Botanists somtimes use this little trick when describing a new genus.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much
that ain't so."
Josh Billings (Henry Wheeler Shaw), 1818-1885

P van Rijckevorsel 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 

Iris Cohen schreef
For those of you who are not professional botanists, you may be interested

to know that Tylecodon is an anagram of Cotyledon, which is the genus it was
split off from. Botanists somtimes use this little trick when describing a
new genus.
Iris

+ + +
Happens often (Tecoma and Cotema, Albizia and Balizia, etc).
It is a device to help remember and place a new genus.
Another form is to add a prefix (Neo-, Para-, Pseudo-, Notho- etc, etc) or a
ending (like -opsis). The fun starts when such genera prove to be not
closely related (Tsuga and Pseudotsuga) or even belong to different
families (Cedrela and Cedrelopsis)!

By the way what may be even less obvious to "not professional botanists" is
that Cotyledon is a technical plant term used in morphology and thus is
potentially confusing. Using such a technical plant term as the name of a
genus is therefore not allowed for new names (after 31 December 1911. Art
20.2). Encountering such a name means that it is a fairly old name, in this
case by Linnaeus (actually Tournefort, but he does not count).

In a sense it is comparable to Latin cultivar epithets. New cultivar
epithets in Latin can not be published since 1 January 1959 (17.9).
Encountering a Latin cultivar epithet means encountering a cultivar of
decades old (unless it is an existing personal or geographic name, or if it
used to be a species or infraspecific taxon sensu ICBN).
PvR






Cereoid+10 26-04-2003 01:28 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 
Graham Williamson described a few new species but it is Ernst Van Jaarsveld
at Kirstenbosch who is writting a book on Tylecodon and Cotyledon due out
sometime in 2003.


Ingar P. wrote in
message ...
Michael F. McNulty wrote:

Does anyone know anyone that knows a lot about the genus Tylecodon?
Michael McNulty


You could try G. Williamson at department of botany in the University of
Cape Town. He have described a new species in the genus in 1998.

Williamson, G. 1998. A new Tylecodon Species (Crassulaceae). Cactus and
Succculent Journal 70:127-128.

In future you can use the excellent database of tropical flora at mobot to
find the authors of genuses and species.

http://mobot.mobot.org/W3T/Search/vast.html

Ingar




Cereoid+10 26-04-2003 01:28 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 
Do a Google search and you will be surprised who did a review of the genus.

The review is overdue for an update because new species are continually
being described for the genus.


Michael F. McNulty wrote in message
...
Does anyone know anyone that knows a lot about the genus Tylecodon?
Michael McNulty








Michael F. McNulty 26-04-2003 01:28 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 
There's certainly nothing on the web more useful than the piece done by Stephen
Jankalski. Here's the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fatpla...20REVISED.html

While we're talking, was Tylecodon hallii named after this man? (seems
unlikely...)
"hallii: after Harvey Monroe Hall (1874-1932), who was born in Illinois, and
was an authority on
the Asteraceae of Southern California, a graduate of
and professor of botany at the University
of California, and a pioneer in experimental
taxonomy. He was the author in 1902 of A Botanical
Survey of San Jacinto Mountain, and was a collector
of plants in the Mt. Pinos region in 1905
and on Santa Cruz Island in 1908. He was placed in
charge of the University of California
Herbarium at Berkeley in 1902, became an instructor
in botany in 1903, and subsequently
became an assistant professor and then an associate
professor in 1916. In 1919 he joined the
Carnegie Institution in Washington, which established
its Division of Plant Biology on the
Stanford Campus, where he also became a professor of
botany. At the same time he became
Honorary Curator of the University of California
Herbarium, a position which lasted until 1932.
After a trip to Europe in 1929 to study natural
reserves, he proposed the creation of "Natural
Areas," and specifically the White Mountains and
Harvey Monroe Hall research areas near
Yosemite National Park (ref. Caulanthus hallii,
Galium hallii, Grindelia hallii, Tetracoccus
hallii)"



Cereoid+10 wrote:

Do a Google search and you will be surprised who did a review of the genus.

The review is overdue for an update because new species are continually
being described for the genus.

Michael F. McNulty wrote in message
...
Does anyone know anyone that knows a lot about the genus Tylecodon?
Michael McNulty





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Cereoid+10 26-04-2003 01:28 PM

Tylecodon experts?
 
No, it was named after the famous South African plantsman and plant
collector Harry Hall (1906-1986), as were a number of southern African
succulents and bulbs.

He was born in Liverpool, England, emigrated to South Africa in 1947 and
became a botanist at National Botanic Garden in Kirstenbosch, S Africa. He
was awarded a FELLOW of USA CSSA in 1981.

Adromischus hallii Hutchison
Amphibolea hallii (L.Bolus) L.Bolus
Astridia hallii L.Bolus
Cheiridopsis hallii L.Bolus
Conophytum hallii L.Bolus
Conophyllum hallii L.Bolus
Cylindrophyllum hallii L.Bolus
Hartmanthus hallii (L.Bolus) Hammer (Delosperma hallii L.Bolus)
Dorotheanthus hallii L.Bolus
Drosanthemum hallii L.Bolus
Euphorbia hallii R.A.Dyer
Huernia hallii E.& B. Lamb
Jacobsenia hallii L.Bolus
Lampranthus hallii L.Bolus
Lithops hallii de Boer
Othonna hallii B.Nordenstam
Sansevieria hallii Chahinian
Schlechteranthus hallii L.Bolus
Tylecodon hallii (Toelken) Toelken

Albuca hallii U.Mueller-Doblies
Gethyllis hallii U.Mueller-Doblies
Ornithogalum hallii Obermeyer
Romulea hallii de Vos

Plectranthus hallii J.K. Morton



Michael F. McNulty wrote in message
...
There's certainly nothing on the web more useful than the piece done by

Stephen
Jankalski. Here's the URL:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fatpla...20-%20ARTICLE%
20REVISED.html

While we're talking, was Tylecodon hallii named after this man? (seems
unlikely...)
"hallii: after Harvey Monroe Hall (1874-1932), who was born in Illinois,

and
was an authority on
the Asteraceae of Southern California, a

graduate of
and professor of botany at the University
of California, and a pioneer in experimental
taxonomy. He was the author in 1902 of A Botanical
Survey of San Jacinto Mountain, and was a

collector
of plants in the Mt. Pinos region in 1905
and on Santa Cruz Island in 1908. He was placed

in
charge of the University of California
Herbarium at Berkeley in 1902, became an

instructor
in botany in 1903, and subsequently
became an assistant professor and then an

associate
professor in 1916. In 1919 he joined the
Carnegie Institution in Washington, which

established
its Division of Plant Biology on the
Stanford Campus, where he also became a

professor of
botany. At the same time he became
Honorary Curator of the University of California
Herbarium, a position which lasted until 1932.
After a trip to Europe in 1929 to study natural
reserves, he proposed the creation of "Natural
Areas," and specifically the White Mountains and
Harvey Monroe Hall research areas near
Yosemite National Park (ref. Caulanthus hallii,
Galium hallii, Grindelia hallii, Tetracoccus
hallii)"



Cereoid+10 wrote:

Do a Google search and you will be surprised who did a review of the

genus.

The review is overdue for an update because new species are continually
being described for the genus.

Michael F. McNulty wrote in message
...
Does anyone know anyone that knows a lot about the genus Tylecodon?
Michael McNulty





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[email protected] 06-12-2004 03:52 PM

http://www.ardice.com/Science/Biolog...e/Adromischus/


Cereus-validus... 07-12-2004 03:40 AM

Which idiot posted this subject heading?

Adromischus are not Tylecodon.


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http://www.ardice.com/Science/Biolog...e/Adromischus/




Iris Cohen 07-12-2004 01:15 PM

Which idiot posted this subject heading?

I think it's a phishing troll. He posted a different question in another
newsgroup.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra


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