Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
Hi:
I came across the image of the following plant, identified only as "Yellow Fingers", and wondered if it was of the genus "Strelitzia"? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=994098 The reason that I thought that it might be is that it bears some resemblance to a plant that I recently photographed. This plant that I photographed was a "Crane Flower" or "Strelitzia reginae": http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1394299 Thanks, Bill Angel Silver Spring, Maryland |
Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
In article , Bill Angel
writes Hi: I came across the image of the following plant, identified only as "Yellow Fingers", and wondered if it was of the genus "Strelitzia"? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=994098 The reason that I thought that it might be is that it bears some resemblance to a plant that I recently photographed. This plant that I photographed was a "Crane Flower" or "Strelitzia reginae": http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1394299 Thanks, Try looking up Heliconia (Parrot Flower). I'm barely familiar with either genus, but your photograph looks more like the one I have of a (labelled) Heliconia than Strelitzia reginae. AFAICT, the obvious difference is that Strelitzia bears flowers singly, whilst in Heliconia they are borne in a zigzag fashion along an inflorescence. There must be other differences; Strelitzia is in the banana family (Musaceae) or its own family (depending one where you look), whilst Heliconia is in its own family (Heliconiaceae). Both families are in the order Zingiberales. "Strelitziaceae ... inflorescences with tough, boat-shaped, green inflorescence bracts. The distinctive flowers have more or less connate lateral abaxial petals ..." "Heliconiaceae ... inflorescences with large, colored bracts in the axils of which are fascicles of flowers with petaloid tepals" -- Stewart Robert Hinsley http://www.meden.demon.co.uk/Malvaceae/gallery.html |
Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
This is a Strelitzia:
http://www.dannyburk.com/strelitzia.htm while your picture looks more like this: http://www.dannyburk.com/heliconia.htm PvR + + + Bill Angel schreef I came across the image of the following plant, identified only as "Yellow Fingers", and wondered if it was of the genus "Strelitzia"? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=994098 The reason that I thought that it might be is that it bears some resemblance to a plant that I recently photographed. This plant that I photographed was a "Crane Flower" or "Strelitzia reginae": http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1394299 Thanks, Bill Angel Silver Spring, Maryland |
Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
This picture looks very much like that in the American Hort. Soc.
Encyclopedia of Garden Plants which is listed as Heliconia aurantiaca from Central America. Sorry I can't do a scan of it. 'Auriantiaca' means yellow or golden, so it would fit with the common name on the picture you saw. Gene Newcomb Bill Angel wrote: Hi: I came across the image of the following plant, identified only as "Yellow Fingers", and wondered if it was of the genus "Strelitzia"? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=994098 The reason that I thought that it might be is that it bears some resemblance to a plant that I recently photographed. This plant that I photographed was a "Crane Flower" or "Strelitzia reginae": http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1394299 Thanks, Bill Angel Silver Spring, Maryland |
Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
In article , Gene Newcomb
writes This picture looks very much like that in the American Hort. Soc. Encyclopedia of Garden Plants which is listed as Heliconia aurantiaca from Central America. Sorry I can't do a scan of it. 'Auriantiaca' means yellow or golden, so it would fit with the common name on the picture you saw. I'd translate 'auriantiaca' as orange; yellow/gold would be 'flava', 'lutea' or 'aurea'. http://home.no.net/arsenic/latin.html -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
Stop reading horticultural dictionaries as if they were valid references.
They are full of errors. Heliconia aurantiaca Ghiesbreght is obviously in the genus Heliconia. However, the correct name for the species is Heliconia psittacorum L.f. The color of the bracts varies from yellow to orange to red. Strelitzia is a strictly Old World genus. According to the ICBN, you cannot reject a species epithet just because it is inapproprate or you don't like it. http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclatur....Luistitle.htm You lucked out this time because the species has an earlier valid name. Do a google image search to find pictures. Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote in message ... In article , Gene Newcomb writes This picture looks very much like that in the American Hort. Soc. Encyclopedia of Garden Plants which is listed as Heliconia aurantiaca from Central America. Sorry I can't do a scan of it. 'Auriantiaca' means yellow or golden, so it would fit with the common name on the picture you saw. I'd translate 'auriantiaca' as orange; yellow/gold would be 'flava', 'lutea' or 'aurea'. http://home.no.net/arsenic/latin.html -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
Nitpicking is best done with some care
1) the spelling is 'aurantiaca' not 'auriantiaca': it does mean "orange" (cf Citrus aurantium) but although there is only one Latin word for "gold" there are many words for yellow (lots of shades of yellow). Also keep in mind the Greek equivalents. 2) Unless one is reasonably familiar with the systematics of a group it is very dangerous to state "the correct name for the species is Heliconia psittacorum L.f." especially when dealing with a group of which the systematics are as dynamic as Monocots. Lots safer to say "According to TROPICOS the current name is Heliconia psittacorum" 3) Strelitzia is a South African genus (South Africa is 10% of the Old World). BTW: How was this relevant? 4) It is always nice if an epithet fits the plant, but to call this luck would assume that botanists assign names completely randomly. 5) The ICBN is fairly voluminous. It is desirable to be a little more exact, as is in "see the first provision in http://www.bgbm.fu-berlin.de/iapt/no...is/0003Pre.htm " 6) It is unhandy to use "valid" in the same piece in two different meanings. BTW: what is a "valid reference"? Sounds interesting, but does it mean anything? PvR ============ Cereoid+10+ schreef Stop reading horticultural dictionaries as if they were valid references. They are full of errors. Heliconia aurantiaca Ghiesbreght is obviously in the genus Heliconia. However, the correct name for the species is Heliconia psittacorum L.f. The color of the bracts varies from yellow to orange to red. Strelitzia is a strictly Old World genus. According to the ICBN, you cannot reject a species epithet just because it is inapproprate or you don't like it. http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclatur....Luistitle.htm You lucked out this time because the species has an earlier valid name. Do a google image search to find pictures. =========== Gene Newcomb writes This picture looks very much like that in the American Hort. Soc. Encyclopedia of Garden Plants which is listed as Heliconia aurantiaca from Central America. Sorry I can't do a scan of it. 'Auriantiaca' means yellow or golden, so it would fit with the common name on the picture you saw. ========== Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote I'd translate 'auriantiaca' as orange; yellow/gold would be 'flava', 'lutea' or 'aurea'. http://home.no.net/arsenic/latin.html -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Is this plant of the genus "Strelitzia" ?
Looks more like Heliconia x nickeriensis (H. psittacorum x H. marginata)
not H. aurantiaca Jeff Shimonski "P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ... Nitpicking is best done with some care 1) the spelling is 'aurantiaca' not 'auriantiaca': it does mean "orange" (cf Citrus aurantium) but although there is only one Latin word for "gold" there are many words for yellow (lots of shades of yellow). Also keep in mind the Greek equivalents. 2) Unless one is reasonably familiar with the systematics of a group it is very dangerous to state "the correct name for the species is Heliconia psittacorum L.f." especially when dealing with a group of which the systematics are as dynamic as Monocots. Lots safer to say "According to TROPICOS the current name is Heliconia psittacorum" 3) Strelitzia is a South African genus (South Africa is 10% of the Old World). BTW: How was this relevant? 4) It is always nice if an epithet fits the plant, but to call this luck would assume that botanists assign names completely randomly. 5) The ICBN is fairly voluminous. It is desirable to be a little more exact, as is in "see the first provision in http://www.bgbm.fu-berlin.de/iapt/no...is/0003Pre.htm " 6) It is unhandy to use "valid" in the same piece in two different meanings. BTW: what is a "valid reference"? Sounds interesting, but does it mean anything? PvR ============ Cereoid+10+ schreef Stop reading horticultural dictionaries as if they were valid references. They are full of errors. Heliconia aurantiaca Ghiesbreght is obviously in the genus Heliconia. However, the correct name for the species is Heliconia psittacorum L.f. The color of the bracts varies from yellow to orange to red. Strelitzia is a strictly Old World genus. According to the ICBN, you cannot reject a species epithet just because it is inapproprate or you don't like it. http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclatur....Luistitle.htm You lucked out this time because the species has an earlier valid name. Do a google image search to find pictures. =========== Gene Newcomb writes This picture looks very much like that in the American Hort. Soc. Encyclopedia of Garden Plants which is listed as Heliconia aurantiaca from Central America. Sorry I can't do a scan of it. 'Auriantiaca' means yellow or golden, so it would fit with the common name on the picture you saw. ========== Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote I'd translate 'auriantiaca' as orange; yellow/gold would be 'flava', 'lutea' or 'aurea'. http://home.no.net/arsenic/latin.html -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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