Archimedes Plutonium wrote:


This is going to be a long ongoing future thread. To give some of the
history,
it started in the late 1990s when I was trying to think ahead of the day
when
humans created a human that has carbonfibre skeleton system instead of
the
calcium based. Into that research I never really asked the question of
whether it is possible or impossible but then in the late 1990s I
suspected
it was impossible. Mind you, difficult is different from impossibility.
For I
suspected that the lines between being a plant in the Plant Kingdom and
being
a animal in the Animal Kingdom of biology means there are several lines
of
impossibility of having plant traits for an animal and vice versa. The
skeleton
of plants is carbon based but in animals is calcium based. One of the
reasons
I suspect impossible is because motion is key to being an animal and
that to
link a skeleton with motion requires body-electricity and that carbon
cannot
handle electric flow in body for motion that calcium can handle.

So in the late 1990s I have been putting together other INVERSE
relationships
between animals and plants besides the inverse relationship of carbon
for
plant skeleton and calcium for animal skeleton. The Inverse relationship
that
animal waste and body are plant food and plants give animals food. The
relationship of oxygen vital to animals yet nitrogen for plants. The
relationship
of oxygen expell from plants and carbon dioxide intake and vice versa
for
animals.

Perhaps there is another relationship that I neglected to explore and
that of
Photosynthesis and chlorophyll to what in animals? Can we say that the
nourishment of animals is hemoglobin and that hemoglobin is the inverse
of photosynthesis for plants?

One of the clear distinctions between Physics and Biology is that there
seems
to be sharp lines and clear lines in physics but not in biology where
the moment
you pen some law of biology and before the ink drys someone is talking
about
exceptions to your latest law or rule. Not to say that these lines or
laws or
rules do not exist but that it is much more difficult to find these
lines in
biology even though it is murky physics. That is what I believe all of
biology
is. That biology is a harder physics but a total physics and that
someday
in the future biology will have been so subsumed by physics just as
chemistry
was subsumed by physics in the 20th century.

And I believe the subsummation of biology under physics will have these
quantum-duals or inverses. And I am confident that when it is over with
that
the Linneaus classification of plantkingdom and animalkingdom will have
been strenghtened.

If we can say to some degree that Photosynthesis in plant kingdom is the

inverse of hemoglobin mechanism in animal kingdom, then the interesting
question with Leghemoglobin of plants such as locust trees, seems to
come
pretty close to being outright hemoglobin. So if plants can someday in
the
future actually have biotech engineered to have hemoglobin flowing into
their roots, trunck and stems then that would be proof that the animal
and
plant kingdom are never fundamentally separated with Quantum Lines of
impossibility. And that some far future date we can expect to have a
human
body whose skeleton is carbonfibre.

Let us start from the top and go down. The *top-line* so to speak, and
and getting tired of hearing people on TVnews saying "... bottom line".
Do us a favor and start by saying "top-line is.... :-)

There is a top-line logic however. We start with the reasonable premiss
that all of biology is inside of Physics. Not only is chemistry subsumed
by physics but that biology is subsumed by physics. In the BigBang
theory that needs proof, but in the AtomTotality theory that is a certainty.

So, if biology is a subset of Physics must therefore mean that biology
has bifurcations just as physics has bifurcation of *particle to wave*.
Or bifurcations of *momentum to position and energy to time* etc etc

Top-line logic asserts the bifurcation of biology with dualisms must
exist. Now, whether those bifurcations are straightforward such as
the Linneaus classification and that Plant Kingdom is one such bifurcation and Animal
Kingdom another such bifurcation (analogous to say momentum
versus position) is an open question. It maybe that the bifurcation includes
some bacteria along with plants and perhaps viruses. It maybe that when
biology evinces the bifurcation that the Linneaus classification scheme is
totally useless like the Thales classification of physics as fire, water, air, etc.

So, if we take this top-line logic we immediately sense that a Quantum Physics
classification scheme with duals must exist in biology and that the Linneaus
classification must either be revised immensely or by luck that the Linneaus
classification got the broad strokes of classification correctly.

In my search for the Inverses in biology is merely a search for those
Quantum duals of biology. If I can find the duals then I can find the
Impossibilities of biology. Example: if calcium +electricity is dual to
carbon + ??? then it is impossible for a human being to ever have a
carbonfibre skeleton system, just as it is impossible to have both
momentum and position to 100% accuracy.

Most physicists and biologists believe that physics subsumes biology.
And because they believe it, they would then have to agree that biology
classification has quantum duals and lines of impossibilities running
through biology. They would then also have to agree that a better classification than
Linneaus exists and waiting to be unraveled.

Archimedes Plutonium,
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

When are you finally going to overdose on crack and do the world a favor,
Archie?

Alternatively, why don't you leap off a long pier and join all your little
friends evolving at the bottom of the sea?

You are far beyond burnt out and delusional psychotic.

Since you obviously refuse to take your meds, the men in white suits will be
coming to take you away again!!!!


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Archimedes Plutonium wrote:


This is going to be a long ongoing future thread. To give some of the
history,
it started in the late 1990s when I was trying to think ahead of the day
when
humans created a human that has carbonfibre skeleton system instead of
the
calcium based. Into that research I never really asked the question of
whether it is possible or impossible but then in the late 1990s I
suspected
it was impossible. Mind you, difficult is different from impossibility.
For I
suspected that the lines between being a plant in the Plant Kingdom and
being
a animal in the Animal Kingdom of biology means there are several lines
of
impossibility of having plant traits for an animal and vice versa. The
skeleton
of plants is carbon based but in animals is calcium based. One of the
reasons
I suspect impossible is because motion is key to being an animal and
that to
link a skeleton with motion requires body-electricity and that carbon
cannot
handle electric flow in body for motion that calcium can handle.

So in the late 1990s I have been putting together other INVERSE
relationships
between animals and plants besides the inverse relationship of carbon
for
plant skeleton and calcium for animal skeleton. The Inverse relationship
that
animal waste and body are plant food and plants give animals food. The
relationship of oxygen vital to animals yet nitrogen for plants. The
relationship
of oxygen expell from plants and carbon dioxide intake and vice versa
for
animals.

Perhaps there is another relationship that I neglected to explore and
that of
Photosynthesis and chlorophyll to what in animals? Can we say that the
nourishment of animals is hemoglobin and that hemoglobin is the inverse
of photosynthesis for plants?

One of the clear distinctions between Physics and Biology is that there
seems
to be sharp lines and clear lines in physics but not in biology where
the moment
you pen some law of biology and before the ink drys someone is talking
about
exceptions to your latest law or rule. Not to say that these lines or
laws or
rules do not exist but that it is much more difficult to find these
lines in
biology even though it is murky physics. That is what I believe all of
biology
is. That biology is a harder physics but a total physics and that
someday
in the future biology will have been so subsumed by physics just as
chemistry
was subsumed by physics in the 20th century.

And I believe the subsummation of biology under physics will have these
quantum-duals or inverses. And I am confident that when it is over with
that
the Linneaus classification of plantkingdom and animalkingdom will have
been strenghtened.

If we can say to some degree that Photosynthesis in plant kingdom is the

inverse of hemoglobin mechanism in animal kingdom, then the interesting
question with Leghemoglobin of plants such as locust trees, seems to
come
pretty close to being outright hemoglobin. So if plants can someday in
the
future actually have biotech engineered to have hemoglobin flowing into
their roots, trunck and stems then that would be proof that the animal
and
plant kingdom are never fundamentally separated with Quantum Lines of
impossibility. And that some far future date we can expect to have a
human
body whose skeleton is carbonfibre.

Let us start from the top and go down. The *top-line* so to speak, and
and getting tired of hearing people on TVnews saying "... bottom line".
Do us a favor and start by saying "top-line is.... :-)

There is a top-line logic however. We start with the reasonable premiss
that all of biology is inside of Physics. Not only is chemistry subsumed
by physics but that biology is subsumed by physics. In the BigBang
theory that needs proof, but in the AtomTotality theory that is a
certainty.

So, if biology is a subset of Physics must therefore mean that biology
has bifurcations just as physics has bifurcation of *particle to wave*.
Or bifurcations of *momentum to position and energy to time* etc etc

Top-line logic asserts the bifurcation of biology with dualisms must
exist. Now, whether those bifurcations are straightforward such as
the Linneaus classification and that Plant Kingdom is one such bifurcation
and Animal
Kingdom another such bifurcation (analogous to say momentum
versus position) is an open question. It maybe that the bifurcation
includes
some bacteria along with plants and perhaps viruses. It maybe that when
biology evinces the bifurcation that the Linneaus classification scheme is
totally useless like the Thales classification of physics as fire, water,
air, etc.

So, if we take this top-line logic we immediately sense that a Quantum
Physics
classification scheme with duals must exist in biology and that the
Linneaus
classification must either be revised immensely or by luck that the
Linneaus
classification got the broad strokes of classification correctly.

In my search for the Inverses in biology is merely a search for those
Quantum duals of biology. If I can find the duals then I can find the
Impossibilities of biology. Example: if calcium +electricity is dual to
carbon + ??? then it is impossible for a human being to ever have a
carbonfibre skeleton system, just as it is impossible to have both
momentum and position to 100% accuracy.

Most physicists and biologists believe that physics subsumes biology.
And because they believe it, they would then have to agree that biology
classification has quantum duals and lines of impossibilities running
through biology. They would then also have to agree that a better
classification than
Linneaus exists and waiting to be unraveled.

Archimedes Plutonium,
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies