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vincent 15-09-2003 08:23 PM

primitive plant
 
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?

Iris Cohen 15-09-2003 08:42 PM

primitive plant
 
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?

You will have to be more specific. What exactly do you mean by primitive
plants? If you mean one-celled plants, most of them are found in water. If you
mean primitive land plants, that usually means the mosses and their relatives.
Since their primitive structure lacks sophisticated water transporting
capability, they are mostly adapted to shady locations with a constant supply
of moisture.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

P van Rijckevorsel 15-09-2003 09:02 PM

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vincent schreef
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?


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Well, pretty primitive conditions.
PvR

PS: define "survive", "primitive" and especially "plant" and "form".
Perhaps also "conditions".



Frank Martin 15-09-2003 11:12 PM

primitive plant
 
Usually in some isolated protected area such a canyon or island. Look for
them in these places, though by definition it will be tough going.

"vincent" wrote in message
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Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?




Frank Martin 15-09-2003 11:13 PM

primitive plant
 
Usually in some isolated protected area such a canyon or island. Look for
them in these places, though by definition it will be tough going.

"vincent" wrote in message
om...
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?




mel turner 16-09-2003 04:02 PM

primitive plant
 
In article ,
[vincent] wrote...

Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?


This is too poorly defined a question to be answered as is.
What exactly do you want to know?

What are the modern habitats of the living, modern
members of the earliest branch lineages of the [land]
plants? Bryophytes occupy a diverse range of envirionments,
but liverworts, etc. typically like it shady and moist.

or, what were the habitats of the early common ancestors of
all modern [land] plants like?

"Primitive" strictly should mean "retaining characteristics of
[some particular] common ancestor", and really would best be
examined feature by feature. None of the modern descendants
of the first embryophytes is likely to be much like their
Silurian ancestors.

cheers


Christopher Green 16-09-2003 10:32 PM

primitive plant
 
(vincent) wrote in message . com...
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?


Horsetails and scouring rushes (Equisetum spp.) are quite primitive
and appear to be able to survive just about any conditions short of a
direct hit with tactical nukes.

--
Chris Green

P van Rijckevorsel 17-09-2003 09:24 AM

primitive plant
 
vincent schreef
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?


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Resaw the first episode of "The private life of plants" last night, and they
showed a Magnolia seed that survived for 2000 years to germinate and yield a
small tree.
PvR



P van Rijckevorsel 17-09-2003 09:24 AM

primitive plant
 
Frank Martin schreef
Usually in some isolated protected area such a canyon or island. Look for
them in these places, though by definition it will be tough going.


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So, IIUC: primitive plants are not sociable?
PvR



P van Rijckevorsel 17-09-2003 09:25 AM

primitive plant
 
vincent schreef
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?


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Resaw the first episode of "The private life of plants" last night, and they
showed a Magnolia seed that survived for 2000 years to germinate and yield a
small tree.
PvR



P van Rijckevorsel 17-09-2003 09:25 AM

primitive plant
 
Frank Martin schreef
Usually in some isolated protected area such a canyon or island. Look for
them in these places, though by definition it will be tough going.


+ + +
So, IIUC: primitive plants are not sociable?
PvR



P van Rijckevorsel 17-09-2003 09:26 AM

primitive plant
 
vincent schreef
Under what conditions can the most primitive plant form survive?


+ + +
Resaw the first episode of "The private life of plants" last night, and they
showed a Magnolia seed that survived for 2000 years to germinate and yield a
small tree.
PvR



P van Rijckevorsel 17-09-2003 09:26 AM

primitive plant
 
Frank Martin schreef
Usually in some isolated protected area such a canyon or island. Look for
them in these places, though by definition it will be tough going.


+ + +
So, IIUC: primitive plants are not sociable?
PvR



Iris Cohen 17-09-2003 01:42 PM

primitive plant
 
a Magnolia seed that survived for 2000 years to germinate and yield a small
tree.

Magnolia is a primitive dicot, but I would hardly call it a primitive plant.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

P van Rijckevorsel 17-09-2003 04:42 PM

primitive plant
 
a Magnolia seed that survived for 2000 years to germinate and yield a
small tree.

Iris Cohen schreef
Magnolia is a primitive dicot, but I would hardly call it a primitive

plant.

Iris,


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Magnolia is indeed a primitive Angiosperm (not sure about dicot), but with
both "primitive" and "plant" undefined this statement is as good as any, and
at least is informative?
PvR






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